Law Judge Blocks Trump Effort to Move Trans Women to Men’s Prisons

[kflo]

They'll call you that no matter how you try to sugar coat it brother, anything short of bowing at the altar of woke gender ideology will get you dismissed as a transphobe. The people in the center are the only ones who can be reached, anyone who is a "leftist" at this point is so entrenched in their ideological delusions that there is no talking to them, unless you just wanna ridicule them.

What’s a reasonable “centrist” position on trans in your mind? Since in your mind there’s no such thing as trans (I believe I’m stating your position correctly).

 

[Koro_11]

you flat-out deny science and mathematics. there's nothing for us to discuss. you gave up as soon as citing actual data came into play. you'd rather play the "let's make hypothetical assumptions on our biases" game, and you can play that with someone on your subterranean IQ level.

 

[Koro_11]

What’s a reasonable “centrist” position on trans in your mind? Since in your mind there’s no such thing as trans (I believe I’m stating your position correctly).

My position is that there are men, and there are women.

Then there are some narcissists and perverts who take advantage of the situation.

And there are unfortunately also some confused people who do deserve some sympathy.

The prison solution is pretty simple, you obviously don't put men with women. And I agree that if you put them with men they'll probably get destroyed in prison.

So just have a separate section of prison just for men who pretend they're women if you wanna be compassionate. Put them together and keep them safe from the men who would beat them up, and keep women safe from them. Pretty simple.

 

[HereticBD]

I know it might cause visitation issues but can't they build separate prisons for them?

And separate prisons for all the 110lb bankers who get caught with CP as well, right? Fuck them. They aren't the only "vulnerable" people in prison. You did a crime while having a penis? You go to the prison that houses penises. Don't want to go there? Don't commit crimes. End of story.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Good, would have led to more rapes, not less.

Explain why only men being in men's prisons & only women being in men's prisons would lead to more rapes.

I'm very interested in hearing out your hypothesis.

 

[kflo]

And separate prisons for all the 110lb bankers who get caught with CP as well, right? Fuck them. They aren't the only "vulnerable" people in prison. You did a crime while having a penis? You go to the prison that houses penises. Don't want to go there? Don't commit crimes. End of story.

Hopefully you agree prison is a place to do your time and serve your sentence. Not to get raped and abused for however long your sentence is. Obviously the more heinous the crime the less we should care about your safety, but as a general concept…..

 

[kflo]

Explain why only men being in men's prisons & only women being in men's prisons would lead to more rapes.

I'm very interested in hearing out your hypothesis.

Trans women in men’s prison are almost 100% certain to get sexually assaulted. Agree?

 

[kflo]

My position is that there are men, and there are women.

Then there are some narcissists and perverts who take advantage of the situation.

And there are unfortunately also some confused people who do deserve some sympathy.

The prison solution is pretty simple, you obviously don't put men with women. And I agree that if you put them with men they'll probably get destroyed in prison.

So just have a separate section of prison just for men who pretend they're women if you wanna be compassionate. Put them together and keep them safe from the men who would beat them up, and keep women safe from them. Pretty simple.

Not an offensive position. Thx.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Poor Andy. The 1%, maybe less.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Trans women in men’s prison are almost 100% certain to get sexually assaulted. Agree?

Its not 'sexually assault' is they consented and enjoyed it.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

And separate prisons for all the 110lb bankers who get caught with CP as well, right? Fuck them. They aren't the only "vulnerable" people in prison. You did a crime while having a penis? You go to the prison that houses penises. Don't want to go there? Don't commit crimes. End of story.

so a trans woman who evaded taxes deserves the same treatment as a child predator. very rational stance not based in any sort of hatred for minority groups.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Its not 'sexually assault' is they consented and enjoyed it.

yeah no shit idiot. no one is talking about that lmao

 

[Koro_11]

Poor Andy. The 1%, maybe less.

The only man who crawled through a river of shit, and came out clean on the other side.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Explain why only men being in men's prisons & only women being in men's prisons would lead to more rapes.

I'm very interested in hearing out your hypothesis.

because men sexually assault trans women in men's jails at astronomical rates. 59% of trans women in men's jails have reported sexual assault.

 

[HereticBD]

so a trans woman who evaded taxes deserves the same treatment as a child predator.

Why does it have to be trans person? Some regular dude who cheated on his taxes gets the same treatment. Hence my "110lb banker" example. They don't get special treatment for any crimes they committed. Why should a man wearing lipstick get any?

How 'bout just don't commit crimes, and you won't have to worry about it?

 

[kflo]

Its not 'sexually assault' is they consented and enjoyed it.

Thanks for the good faith dialogue….

 

[IDGETKTFO]

because men sexually assault trans women in men's jails at astronomical rates. 59% of trans women in men's jails have reported sexual assault.

Can you imagine being the only person with a Penis in a prison with 30,000 Vaginas and not getting raped. Doesn't it bother you that most likely that person with a Penis probably likes Vagina?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Why does it have to be trans person? Some regular dude gets the same treatment. Hence my "110lb banker" example. They don't get special treatment for any crimes they committed. Why should a man wearing lipstick get any?

well we're talking about trans people and the comparison you drew was a person caught with CP, for some reason. well, we know the reason. because you think they're one and the same.

How 'bout just don't commit crimes, and you won't have to worry about it?

because prisoners are human beings and americans who are supposed to be able to live in jail without being raped and murdered. the idea that we shouldn't protect prisoners from being raped and murdered because they "did the crime" is frankly, laughably retarded.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Can you imagine being the only person with a Penis in a prison with 30,000 Vaginas and not getting raped.

what? lmao

Doesn't it bother you that most likely that person with a Penis probably likes Vagina?

most likely probably, he says. surely there's a source you can cite on trans women's sexual orientation.

 

[kflo]

Can you imagine being the only person with a Penis in a prison with 30,000 Vaginas and not getting raped. Doesn't it bother you that most likely that person with a Penis probably likes Vagina?

Trans men are more likely to prefer women than trans women….