Jones will eventually face Aspinal

[OldBoy91]

Has he? He hasn't beat anyone of notice.

See, I'm not opposed to Jones (champ) and Aspinall (interim champ) fighting.

It would be the obvious fight to make.

But Aspinall hasn't beaten anyone of notice. He hasn't got a single big win.

You aren't being serious.

3 top 5 wins.

Who are the "names" he needs to beat to earn a title fight? Gane we already established is a joke answer. He is literally less proven than Aspinall is.

He could literally beat 1 through 10 in the rankings and you'd still say he hasn't beaten anyone of note.

So who are these names? The retired old farts who definitely aren't coming back to active competition? Jones himself who won't fight him? Or the guy who is the champ of another organisation who Tom can't fight even if he wants to.

It's almost like you are deliberately setting up a catch 22 where Tom needs to do things you know he is unable do so you can always justify Jones ducking him. If only you were intelligent enough to hide your intentions better.

 

[Gilday]

That's how shit goes. As I said, and you aggree with, Aspinall hasn't beat anyone of notice. Well, except for a few of the minor names in a HW that sucks as going by popular opinion.

He's not only beaten but spectacularly finished 5 out of the top 10.

You're just holding him to an impossible standard. There have been 4 HW champions since Aspinall has been in the UFC:
DC - Retired in 2020 shortly after Tom made his debut.
Stipe - Retired since 2021 until he came back for the Jones fight. Tom was 3-0 in the UFC having just beat Arlovski.
Ngannou - Last fight was in 2022, when Tom was 4-0. Probably would've fought him if he stayed around.
Jones - Refuses to fight Tom despite him being the interim champion.

So I'll ask you, who exactly is he supposed to have beaten at any point in his career for you to not have an issue? Is he supposed to fight the retired guys or the ones ducking him? Why are we now pretending that Pavlovich wasn't a great win? Just because Tom stepped in on short notice and melted him in a minute?

We've got people saying Shavkat is going to walk through everybody (Not a dig at him, I do like him) and that he completely deserves a title shot for having TWO ranked wins, neither of which were top 5. Yet Aspinall, who has 5 top 10 wins and is the INTERIM CHAMPION WITH A TITLE DEFENCE... but it's ridiculous to say he clearly deserves to fight Jones?

Again, what is he actually supposed to do?

 

[loisestrad]

He could literally beat 1 through 10 in the rankings and you'd still say he hasn't beaten anyone of note (...)

It's almost like you are deliberately setting up a catch 22 where Tom needs to do things you know he is unable do so you can always justify Jones ducking him. If only you were intelligent enough to hide your intentions better.Joned

Tom could do that, yeah. As the common opinion is that the HW division sucks. I do Sherdog, I know that.

As I've previously stated, and you ignore, I would like to see Jones vs. Aspinall.

Does Tom have to do more to deserve a fight vs. Jones? No.

 

[blaseblase]

Move this thread to the fantasy sub forum

 

[TITS]

I actually found a photo of Jones literally facing Aspinall

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Blaydes - KO round 1
Pavlovich - KO round 1
Tybura - TKO round 1
Volkov - Sub round 1
Spivac - TKO round 1
Arlovski - Sub round 2
Baudot - TKO round 1
Collier - TKO round 1


Sit down bozo. So far the biggest critique we can make of Aspinall is that in his 8 wins with 8 finishes, one time it took him a second round to put his opponent away.

He's an absolute freak phenom by heavyweight standards and more proven than Jones at heavyweight.

Well, let's get a hold of ourselves here.

Blaydes has been KO'd in Round 1 many times before.
Pavlovich shit himself and quit to Overeem in Round 1 previously.

With the exception of Volkov, the rest our fat asses ONLY able to compete because there's no competition in UFC HW.

Aspinall is not some "freak phenom"; he's an actually big guy, of modest athletic acumen, competing in a sea of fat-asses and mediocre nothings.

 

[rjmbrd]

Well, let's get a hold of ourselves here.

Blaydes has been KO'd in Round 1 many times before.
Pavlovich shit himself and quit to Overeem in Round 1 previously.

With the exception of Volkov, the rest our fat asses ONLY able to compete because there's no competition in UFC HW.

Aspinall is not some "freak phenom"; he's an actually big guy, of modest athletic acumen, competing in a sea of fat-asses and mediocre nothings.

You are a general low quality poster and this is on brand.

 

[VAfan]

jones knows better than any fan on sherdog how he'd fare against aspinall. there is no chance he's taking that fight. he's too concerned about his legacy and knows there's a chance he gets totally blown out of the water, which is why he's playing all the games. he's just messing around with us for now until he gets tired of it and takes his (fake-ass) belt and rides off into the sunset with it.

 

[cws80us]

There are people that just won't give Jon credit no matter what he does. Even if he does fight Aspinal and wins, they'd still say he ducked Ngannou and Aspinal was never that good. If somehow the Ngannou fight did come together and he won that, then they'd say he didn't fight him in his prime, his knees were shot or whatever.

 

[Squarechoke]

Aspinall hasn't even beat Stipe. Or Gane. Or Ngannou.

He has literally beat no one of notice.

I'm certainly not sure that Jones would beat Aspinall. I'm certainly not opposed to the fight.

But it's getting ridicoulous.

That makes no sense whatsoever. Pavlovich had a better record when Aspinall fought him than anyone that Gane beat, and Gane hasn't beaten anyone higher ranked either, so if that's an argument for that Aspinall hasn't fought anyone of notice then Gane isn't anyone of notice either. To claim that old name value when you've not won in 4 years and is 42 years old (and really look like it in the cage) is all that's important the most superficial of casual fan talk. This is the reasoning of someone that doesn't understand anything about what they are watching, which makes it really odd from such an old account. It doesn't even make much sense in terms of star power since despite Stipe's accomplishments he's not a big star. It's quite clear that Aspinall would be Jones' best win at HW if he beat him.

None of that is very relevant to the fact that a champ should always unify the titles when he comes back, as the interim championship by definition means that the original champ is now disputed. It doesn't matter who the two champions are.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

You are a general low quality poster and this is on brand.

Weak AF response, also on point.

Calling Aspinall "a freak phenom" is borderline ghey.

The truth is, Tom is an above-average athlete ... in a division of fat, pitiful, non-athletes.

Just a reality check for your over-zealous ass.

 

[Fight Professor]

So far the biggest critique we can make of Aspinall is that in his 8 wins with 8 finishes, one time it took him a second round to put his opponent away.

And Arlovski is a master of making fights long and uneventful when he fights safe. Also, the only fighter who had submitted Arlovski besides Tom is Barnett.

 

[loisestrad]

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Thanks for replying to what made no sense. Whatsoever.

 

[whocares]

Jon has been absolutely resolute at every turn that he has zero interest in fighting Tom. He just went all fight week having it thrown in his face before and after the fight and his tune didn't change one bit (except the useless "if Dana offered an amount 5 times more than he will")

I'm not going to doubt his word. I find it more likely that Jon gets stripped because he's going to attempt to drag out negotiations while Tom and the UFC aren't going to put Tom on Ice for a year or more while allowing Jon to play his games. This is not the same situation as Stipe, they're out of options and have to offer Tom the undisputed strap match and they don't have a long timeframe to do so. Dana will make him (Jon) a generous offer which he'll refuse which thus begins a new Jon/Dana beef with Dana dragging Jones through the mud. But no Tom fight, not this year. If it were going to happen Jon just blew all the best opportunities to set it up. (So did the UFC). All the elements were in place to give this matchup major hype this week but Jon and the UFC balked at it.

 

[KungFuCow]

The 4 years retired, 42 year old Stipe that bumbled around the Octagon like an old man? Aspinal would beat him on his walk to the Octagon. I would pick middle of the pack light heavyweights to beat that version of Stipe and a handful of middleweights.

Ngannou murdered Stipe, beat Gane, and left the division for greener pastures. Jon never fought him either.




Blaydes - KO round 1
Pavlovich - KO round 1
Tybura - TKO round 1
Volkov - Sub round 1
Spivac - TKO round 1
Arlovski - Sub round 2
Baudot - TKO round 1
Collier - TKO round 1

LMAO by heavyweight standards that is a run you can't find. Who else in the last 20 years has put away 8 guys with the only interruption being a knee blowout? What a ridiculous standard.

Dude, youre a fucking legend.

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

Jones will fight if the money is right, and no it doesn't have to be the numbers he is throwing out to the media. That is just for show so when the real negotiating is started he can meet the UFC at some favorable price point.

 

[Squarechoke]

Thanks for replying to what made no sense. Whatsoever.

You are welcome.

 

[snaportap21]

Aspinall hasn't even beat Stipe. Or Gane. Or Ngannou.

He has literally beat no one of notice.

I'm certainly not sure that Jones would beat Aspinall. I'm certainly not opposed to the fight.

But it's getting ridicoulous.

Volkov and Sergei are very solid wins.

 

[cburm]

let me first mention that I’m not a Jones fan, in fact every time there is a chance to question his “GOAT”-ness, I fucking do it.

While I think Jon is not so willing to face Aspinal, he’s also trying hard to make it seem like he doesn’t want to face Aspinal AT ALL. It’s a negotiation tactic. Jon’s doing a good job. He’s doing so to get as much money as he can. It’ll probably be his last fight.

It is definitely disrespectful that teh pink goof brought in the semi-retired out of shape Stipe to fight Jones “for the undisputed Hw belt”. Aspinal is the real champ. You are a moron if you think he isn’t.


With that said, Aspinal’s yet to prove himself. He’s surely done a lot, but to act like he beats Jones without a doubt is a bit far fetched. Jon always find a way to win. Even if he doesn’t, the judges will score a close fight in his favor.

So yeah, the fight will happen sooner than later and as much as I hate to say it, Jon will find a way to win. Sadly most of the fans will say Aspinal wasn’t that good to begin with.

Thoughts?

Aspinal was the n1 contender... Not the champ and he wasn't the n1 contender until the n1 contender cyril Gane faught Jon Jones for the vacated hw belt..

You my friend are autistic for thinking Tom is the champ with this late to the party interim belt..

And Stipe lost the a title fight ... And was in a break so it should of been him and Jon or Tom and Stipe for interim.. because cyril had the n1 contender spot..

It actually played out as it should have..

And trust me Gane or Tom would've gotten smoked by Stipe. So they actually got lucky dodging him and each other.

 

[pamirec]

Aspinal was the n1 contender... Not the champ and he wasn't the n1 contender until the n1 contender cyril Gane faught Jon Jones for the vacated hw belt..

You my friend are autistic for thinking Tom is the champ with this late to the party interim belt..

And Stipe lost the a title fight ... And was in a break so it should of been him and Jon or Tom and Stipe for interim.. because cyril had the n1 contender spot..

It actually played out as it should have..

And trust me Gane or Tom would've gotten smoked by Stipe. So they actually got lucky dodging him and each other.

Nice try, though.