Jones is right NOT to entertain Aspinal. Aspinal is overrated. Mid striking. He could be a flash in the pan.

[Royce Greasy]

Jones is the goat he is apussy for not wanting to fight a slow sloppy flat footed fighter with zero head movement. Aspinal has not earned the right to even tie Jones laces.

Compared to Jones aspinal is a nobody

I'll admit that Aspinall is overhyped having only beaten 4 good fighters so far, but having just said that why would Jones avoid him when he could defend the HW title and look even greater, instead he wants Poatan who has no wrestling is smaller and one-dimensional gee I wonder why that is, personally I feel Jones doesn't want a blemish on his record and is loving just holding onto the belt which is very wrong and Dana is enabling this as well, very unprofessional of the organization.

 

[mkess101]

So you don't agree what I said is not true? Is that what your saying?

What I'm saying is that you don't make any sense at all.

Do you think we should judge Jones purely based on him getting a gift decision vs a guy who then went on to get KO'd in his next few fights? Or no?

 

[mkess101]

Yawwwnnnn .

It's always the next guy lmao

Like I said, oddsmakers have to be right more than wrong or they're out of business. Jones has been favored in every fight since before he beat Shoguh for the title forever ago. Until now.

But nah, you know more than they do. Aspinall is "just another guy" because you think so.

 

[kenetics]

What I'm saying is that you don't make any sense at all.

Do you think we should judge Jones purely based on him getting a gift decision vs a guy who then went on to get KO'd in his next few fights? Or no?

Jones has beaten the better competition period. There's nothing you can say to change that. You can say gift decision all you want but the reality is that he is still the champion after all these years. He has the most title defenses too.

There's no point debating it anymore. It is the fact no matter how much you don't like it.

 

[kenetics]

Like I said, oddsmakers have to be right more than wrong or they're out of business. Jones has been favored in every fight since before he beat Shoguh for the title forever ago. Until now.

But nah, you know more than they do. Aspinall is "just another guy" because you think so.

Yup.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Jones has beaten the better competition period. There's nothing you can say to change that. You can say gift decision all you want but the reality is that he is still the champion after all these years. He has the most title defenses too.

There's no point debating it anymore. It is the fact no matter how much you don't like it.

At heavyweight? Certainly not.

 

[mkess101]

Jones has beaten the better competition period. There's nothing you can say to change that. You can say gift decision all you want but the reality is that he is still the champion after all these years. He has the most title defenses too.

There's no point debating it anymore. It is the fact no matter how much you don't like it.

Don't like it? Why would I not like it?

See...this is where you're getting emo again. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret: I don't hate Jones or root for him to lose.

He's the most talented fighter I've ever seen. I've maybe made more money betting on him than any other fighter ever. Of course his career achievements are worlds beyond Aspinall's. Who the hell is arguing otherwise?

All I want is to see the best fight the best. And anyone without a ridiculous bias knows that's Jones vs Aspinall. Of course Jones can choose to retire, that's his right. As a fan I hope he doesn't because I like big, important fights between the best guys. Maybe you don't, that's your choice.

 

[TJ Dillashank]

Rubbish take but even if I agreed it doesnt matter. You dont get to duck the interim champ when you are the champion, its your responsibility to fight the number 1 contender.

 

[kenetics]

Don't like it? Why would I not like it?

See...this is where you're getting emo again. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret: I don't hate Jones or root for him to lose.

He's the most talented fighter I've ever seen. I've maybe made more money betting on him than any other fighter ever. Of course his career achievements are worlds beyond Aspinall's. Who the hell is arguing otherwise?

All I want is to see the best fight the best. And anyone without a ridiculous bias knows that's Jones vs Aspinall. Of course Jones can choose to retire, that's his right. As a fan I hope he doesn't because I like big, important fights between the best guys. Maybe you don't, that's your choice.

Ok then we agree. The funny thing is that Francis is out there to upset both of them.

 

[mkess101]

Ok then we agree. The funny thing is that Francis is out there to upset both of them.

Francis is as old as Jon with worse knees. The Francis that KO'd Stipe 4-5 years ago...absolute beast. Now? I'd pick Jones or Aspinall to beat him for sure.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

who should Jones fight then?

 

[kenetics]

Francis is as old as Jon with worse knees. The Francis that KO'd Stipe 4-5 years ago...absolute beast. Now? I'd pick Jones or Aspinall to beat him for sure.

He could ko both with those little gloves. Bones probably can keep distance, aspinal I'm not as confident.

 

[mkess101]

He could ko both with those little gloves. Bones probably can keep distance, aspinal I'm not as confident.

Oh he absolutely COULD. I'm just saying I'd pick both Jones and Aspinall to beat him pretty easily at this point.

 

[kenetics]

At heavyweight? Certainly not.

Well beating the best HW "stipe" according to the UFC means alot no? But 205 division was way better than HW anyways.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Well beating the best HW "stipe" according to the UFC means alot no? But 205 division was way better than HW anyways.

Isn't that the problem? Stipe isn't the best HW anymore. Ryan Bader beat up Fedor, it doesn't mean Ryan Bader was the best HW.

 

[kenetics]

Oh he absolutely COULD. I'm just saying I'd pick both Jones and Aspinall to beat him pretty easily at this point.

Easily is a far stretch lol. Francis is a big athletic man with one shot ko power.

 

[kenetics]

Isn't that the problem? Stipe isn't the best HW anymore. Ryan Bader beat up Fedor, it doesn't mean Ryan Bader was the best HW.

Agree.

 

[Juzie]

Yawwwnnnn .

It's always the next guy lmao

What you want. Your champ to stand on top of Pride Rock and tell stories of his greatness all his life because he won the belt once?

Yeah no... as long as you're the champion there's always the next guy to fight. But sounds like you would have made for a great Tyson Fury fan.

MMA fans are fkn weird these days I swear to God. Today on this forum I've seen a guy saying it's bad to have exciting champions and now this guy saying a champion doesn't have to defend his belt.

 

[kenetics]

What you want. Your champ to stand on top of Pride Rock and tell stories of his greatness all his life because he won the belt once?

Yeah no... as long as you're the champion there's always the next guy to fight. But sounds like you would have made for a great Tyson Fury fan.

MMA fans are fkn weird these days I swear to God. Today on this forum I've seen a guy saying it's bad to have exciting champions and now this guy saying a champion doesn't have to defend his belt.

Not at all. I said Jones should retire if they offer him the money he's asking. Beating aspinal ain't going to really do anything for his legacy because there will always be another guy.

 

[Juzie]

Not at all. I said Jones should retire if they offer him the money he's asking. Beating aspinal ain't going to really do anything for his legacy because there will always be another guy.

Every win increases your resume, even the Stipe win holds some value as much as people discredit it.

Tom would truly legitimise his heavyweight title which will always have an asterisks next to it if he doesn't fight Tom. He's going down as the GOAT for now either day. But some day someone will try to pass him up as Jon did Fedor before him and it's at these times when all these wins will be counted up and believe me when that time comes having the win over Tom would be huge for Jon.