Jones ducked Ngannou for years!

[10000yearsold]

Does anyone actually think Ngannou ducked Jones?
Ngannou was the champion of the HW division for years while Jones sat out "bulking". He had every opportunity over that time frame to fight him, but declined to do so. He did not return until Ngannou left the promotion. These are facts.

Just wanna set the record straight that Jon Jones is a duck. He ducked Ngannou and now he is ducking Aspinall. That is all.

 

[Corrado Soprano]

Jones bulked up for years only to show up fat. He’s also fighting Ngannou’s leftovers like Gane & Stipe.

 

[Marko Polo]

Jon had been “bulking” for about ten years, then as soon as Francis left he moved up. Such a crazy coincidence. He wasn’t afraid of Francis though, he’s not afraid of any fighter, that’s why he’s fighting old man Stipe and not Aspinall

 

[flektarn]

The GOAT just wanted to get paid accordingly to how risky his opponents are.

 

[10000yearsold]

The GOAT just wanted to get paid accordingly to how risky his opponents are.

you really believe that was the issue? You think he got more money to fight Gane than he could have to fight Ngannou?

Please recall that Ngannou fought every contender presented to him for a period of about 3 years while Jones sat out. Jones had a standing open offer to fight Ngannou over that time. Anytime he might have wanted to accept it, the fight was there for him. He declined to pursue it. His statement about why he was doing this was to bulk, not negotiate finance.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

The lead-up doesn't matter. When a contract was actually ready, Francis said no while Jon said yes.

 

[10000yearsold]

The lead-up doesn't matter. When a contract was actually ready, Francis said no while Jon said yes.

Francis said no? where did you see this? Francis was done with the promotion. He was no longer under contract and had a verbal agreement with Tyson Fury for a super fight that would pay him millions upon millions.
why are you supporting this revisionist history?

 

[flektarn]

you really believe that was the issue? You think he got more money to fight Gane than he could have to fight Ngannou?

Please recall that Ngannou fought every contender presented to him for a period of about 3 years while Jones sat out. Jones had a standing open offer to fight Ngannou over that time. Anytime he might have wanted to accept it, the fight was there for him. He declined to pursue it. His statement about why he was doing this was to bulk, not negotiate finance.

I'm sure he got way less money for Gane than what he would've wanted for Ngannou. But Gane was way less risky.
Hes made statements before that they weren't reaching the numbers he wanted for the Ngannou fight.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10000539-jon-jones-says-8-10m-is-way-too-low-for-francis-ngannou-ufc-fight.amp.html

When ngannou wants more money and to be able to box: YOU GO GIRL, YAASS SLAAAAYY
When Jones wants money: BOOOOO, HES DUCKING

 

[dildos]

Wow, this is a new thought.

No shit jones did. He was terrified of Francine.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Francis said no? where did you see this? Francis was done with the promotion. He was no longer under contract and had a verbal agreement with Tyson Fury for a super fight that would pay him millions upon millions.
why are you supporting this revisionist history?

Francis himself said he turned down the Jon Jones fight.

 

[10000yearsold]

I'm sure he got way less money for Gane than what he would've wanted for Ngannou. But Gane was way less risky.
Hes made statements before that they weren't reaching the numbers he wanted for the Ngannou fight.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10000539-jon-jones-says-8-10m-is-way-too-low-for-francis-ngannou-ufc-fight.amp.html

When ngannou wants more money and to be able to box: YOU GO GIRL, YAASS SLAAAAYY
When Jones wants money: BOOOOO, HES DUCKING

Ok fair. You backed up your point. However, do you really think this is just a matter of abject bias?

Jones sat out for years. Making no money rather than ngannou money. Ngannou left to go make heavyweight boxing championship money. That’s what is really more the issue here and why the attitude is different for each.

Sorry this forum keeps resetting. It’s almost impossible for me to post on here

 

[Captain Herb]

Does anyone actually think Ngannou ducked Jones?
Ngannou was the champion of the HW division for years while Jones sat out "bulking". He had every opportunity over that time frame to fight him, but declined to do so. He did not return until Ngannou left the promotion. These are facts.

Just wanna set the record straight that Jon Jones is a duck. He ducked Ngannou and now he is ducking Aspinall. That is all.

It's true and we don't even have to believe Frank to know that. Jones never, ever, in good faith, publicly said he wanted to fight Ngannou. Not ever, and the offer to fight for "Deontay Wilder money" (30 million dollars) obviously doesn't count.

 

[10000yearsold]

Francis himself said he turned down the Jon Jones fight.

He turned down the whole ufc contract, because it wouldn’t allow him to fight Tyson fury in boxing. That’s very different than sitting out for years making no money and saying no.

 

[nonoob]

Jon had been “bulking” for about ten years, then as soon as Francis left he moved up. Such a crazy coincidence. He wasn’t afraid of Francis though, he’s not afraid of any fighter, that’s why he’s fighting old man Stipe and not Aspinall

He ducked Stipe the same way, only reason was waiting years for Father Time.

 

[flektarn]

Ok fair. You backed up your point. However, do you really think this is just a matter of abject bias?

Jones sat out for years. Making no money rather than ngannou money. Ngannou left to go make heavyweight boxing championship money. That’s what is really more the issue here and why the attitude is different for each.

Sorry this forum keeps resetting. It’s almost impossible for me to post on here

I don't think it's crazy to say it was a mutual ducking depending on when the offer was laid out for each of the guys. I don't think 8-10 mil guaranteed for the UFC's undefeated GOAT to move up weight class and fight a guy that makes 265 and was knocking people out to be unreasonable. When those talks were going on Dana was talking shit like he wanted $30 million and he didn't want the fight (jones). If he actually asked for $30 mil, who knows, then yea it's "ducking" by setting the pay way too high.
Then that talk disappeared and Ngannou started having contract issues with the UFC and Dana stopped shit talking Jones REAL fast and turned against Ngannou instead. It was a shit show all around.

 

[Poirierfan]

The GOAT just wanted to get paid accordingly to how risky his opponents are.

That was his excuse too, Jon's the goat at ducking.

 

[Marko Polo]

The GOAT just wanted to get paid accordingly to how risky his opponents are.

He priced himself out of the fight.

 

[Deleted member 504083]

He ducked Ngannou and now he is ducking Aspinall. That is all.

And Cain, JDS, Werdum, prime Stipe

He's wanted to fight for the HW belt since about 2012 and waited all these years for the perfect time until he only had to fight a French kickboxer

 

[Sweater of AV]

Correct.

Jon Jones is a can.

 

[DiazSlap]

Does anyone actually think Ngannou ducked Jones?
Ngannou was the champion of the HW division for years while Jones sat out "bulking". He had every opportunity over that time frame to fight him, but declined to do so. He did not return until Ngannou left the promotion. These are facts.

Just wanna set the record straight that Jon Jones is a duck. He ducked Ngannou and now he is ducking Aspinall. That is all.

^^^^TS