Jon Jones vs Alex Pereira

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

I dont think he can, but if he can keep it standing for a while, if a slow mediocre bum was able to destroy prime Jones, imagine what Alex would do...
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Gus was a bum? Uh huh

 

[Istryker]

The main difference between Jones vs. Poatan and Jones vs. Gane is that, unlike Gane, Poatan would have a real puncher's chance. The fight probably plays out similarly, but Poatan has enough power and creativity to his striking to makes things intriguing.

Poatan striking is not more creative than Gane, he's a flat footed kickboxer wtf.

 

[PlayTheGame]

I'd watch Jones-Pereira over Jones-Aspinall any day, legacy be damned. I want to see a proper big fight. We haven't had any since UFC 229.

 

[J'Ghasta]

It all comes down to can he stop the takedown. If he can do that he wins. As good of a striker as Jones is, he is not on Pereiras level.

 

[Dr. Stoppage]

I just think if Jones is cautious fighting 41 year old Stipe on the feet he's in real trouble against Poatan or Aspinall.

Aspinall for one is a physically huge man and closes the distance in a hurry. Poatan will rip up Jones chicken legs with his kicks.

 

[AstralPanda]

What slow, mediocre bum destroyed Jones??? Better go back and check the records! LOL

He claims Jones has been destroyed multiple times

And that he only fought 50 pound midgets his entire career

Bro has some derangement issues

 

[AstralPanda]

Poatan striking is not more creative than Gane, he's a flat footed kickboxer wtf.

Poatan is LEVELS above Gane

Calling him a flat footed kickboxer might be one of the worst striking takes I've ever heard

Hes quite literally the best striker in mma history.

 

[Luffy]

Idk what ppl call flatfooted. I think they mean Poatan isn't so dynamic in the striking. Ok, Anderson Silva was a way more dynamic striker. So is Jon Jones. So is Jiri Prochazka too. Being dynamic # being better. Poatan isn't so dynamic but he has a mastery of the concept of kickboxing so well, plus huge KO power, more so than Ngannou likely, that it doesn't mean he isn't good for being so little dynamic. It's all about timing, accuracy, getting the shot in accurately, controlling distance, understanding well how to use the octagon in favourable angles... A dynamic striker like Jiri couldn't strike with him at all... Because being dynamic against an elite of the elite kickboxer with a touch of death will just end up giving openings to be hit when the movement is even a little bit off... The accuracy is so high that being dynamic pales in comparison to an elite striker who isn't dynamic but has a mastery of the basic of striking so well that it will make fighters pay for any mistake when being dynamic. The straightforward, basics of striking when mastered to a level of high precision, combined with adjusting this straightforward style, knowing just it is enough is what makes Poatan the best striker. He isn't so dynamic, but still hugely effective, to the point a slip and bam, the fighter gets slept.

 

[NextGen]

Jones-Pereira would be boring as Jones would never let that be a standup fight.

It's Aspinall or nothing for Jones.

 

[188912345]

Jones would take the fight down and its over. If Poatan had Verdume level grappling, Id favor Potan easily to win the fight.

Jones has had only 2 first round finishes since 2010. There's definitely some recency bias due to the Gane fight. It's absolutely not inconceivable that Alex could stuff a few takedowns and keep it standing for a while. Alternatively, get taken down and survive until the round ends.

That being said, Jones is obviously the favorite.

 

[Luffy]

Jones has had only 2 first round finishes since 2010. There's definitely some recency bias due to the Gane fight. It's absolutely not inconceivable that Alex could stuff a few takedowns and keep it standing for a while. Alternatively, get taken down and survive until the round ends.

That being said, Jones is obviously the favorite.

But why is he such a massive favorite? Like, I think it's 6-1

 

[188912345]

But why is he such a massive favorite? Like, I think it's 6-1

Because he has never lost*. And Alex doesn't have that much MMA-experience.

*He has won a few close/controversial decisions, though.

 

[Ginja_Ninja]

There is no momentum change, what are you talking about?

We are still at about 90% saying he should be fighting Aspinall and 10% thinking he should be allowed to go fight Alex.

That's not changing, just the 10% talk enough for everyone.

 

[Tweak896]

Pereira's first HW fight should be for a belt. It's ridiculous if he would have to beat Jones and Aspinall to become HW champ.

 

[Otto!]

I think this goes the same way as Jones vs Gane, and I can’t stand Jones.

 

[achoo42]

Right from the getgo I thought jones was playing some sort of Jedi mind trick. Tom would be the easier opponent in my opinion.

Alex literally needs to land one punch.

Do you genuinely think that Alex Pereira has more power than Tom Aspinall?

Being as generous as possible, they are at the same level of power.

But I think I'll take the guy who flatlined Pavlovich in one round over the guy who couldn't finish Bruno Silva.

 

[orca]

He's more dangerous than Gane, but less dangerous than Aspinall. I admire your loyalty as a Jones-fan though, good effort to shill for him getting the easier fight and avoiding Aspinall.

how is he less dangerous than aspinal, poatan is a world champion in striking with 1 punch ko power
i dont know why people act like aspinal is a world champ in striking even though he hasnt beaten 1 yet

and i dont know why people act likes hes a world champ grappler
the man hasnt outgrappled any good one
last time i checked he got submitted lol

 

[188912345]

how is he less dangerous than aspinal
i dont know why people act like aspinal is a world champ in striking even though he hasnt beaten 1 yet

and i dont know why people act likes hes a world champ grappler
the man hasnt outgrappled any good one
last time i checked he got submitted lol

Aspinall has more power and is routinely wrecking top 10 heavyweights within 2 minutes.

He subbed Volkov and Arlovski, he's been doing BJJ since he was a child (his dad is a BJJ-coach). He was also teaching BJJ when he was younger.

Volkov and Arlovski have been subbed a total of 6 times in 108 fights, including their Aspinall fights.

Gane is also very good, but he hasn't shown any offensive wrestling/grappling in the UFC.
He did however get outwrestlrd by an injured Ngannou. He also ducked Aspinall, Blaydes and Pavlovich.

I know you like Jones, but come on. It's obvious Aspinall is the more dangerous fighter with the better UFC-resume.

 

[orca]

Aspinall has more power and is routinely wrecking top 5 heavyweights within 2 minutes.

He subbed Volkov and Arlovski, he's been doing BJJ since he was a child (his dad is a BJJ-coach). He was also teaching BJJ when he was younger.

Gane is also very good, but he hasn't shown any offensive wrestling/grappling in the UFC.
He did however get outwrestlrd by an injured Ngannou. He also ducked Aspinall, Blaydes and Pavlovich.

I know you like Jones, but come on. It's obvious Aspinall is the more dangerous fighter with the better UFC-resume.

fun fact gane has shown offensive wrestling against nganou
he also showed great defensive wrestling against nganou
the man also outclinched nganou

also fun fact gane has 3 submission wins like aspinal

btw i agree that tom is more dangerous than gane

but saying tom is more dangerous striker than a world champ striker like alex is crazy
it doesnt make sense
both of them have 1 punch ko power but the other one is a world champ

so it really doesnt make sense that the non world champ is more dangerous

 

[Benoitthegr8]

As a Poatan fan, I just don’t think this matchup would play out favoring Alex. BTW, I’ve been rooting against Jones for a decade +