Jon Jones Potential PED Maskers (.19/1 T/E) Discussion Thread (MERGED)

No wonder he's so damn big for a LHW...

You had us all fooled Jones, good job I guess... made your millions and shit.
 
threelions said:
No he was accused of taking party drugs ie Coke by Rampage.
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That is speculation. Rampage said, there are a lot of things worse than TRT. That could just as easily mean a range of different synthetic testosterone [Which are much higher doses], EPO, HGH etc etc...
 
Count me in the corner of those who do not care about PED use. As a fan, I would much rather see guys like Hendo and Couture be able to fight competitively into their 50s rather than lose them 10-15 years sooner.

And lets be honest here, anyone who is actually surprised by this has not watched MMA for very long. I can GUARANTEE that 90% of the top guys are or have juiced to some capacity in their careers.

Jones would be an elite fighter regardless. His brothers are both stud pro football players, being a gifted athlete is in his blood. Its unfortunate that we will never know the true extent of his use and how it affected his fight game but we will find out in 2-4 years when he is allowed back into the game. Its a shame to see a guy so young who had already achieved more than anyone in the history of the sport at his age basically kill his career and legacy with poor decisions.

The sport is already beginning to suffer from lack of true superstars as is.
 
threelions said:
No he was accused of taking party drugs ie Coke by Rampage.
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Rampage never said shit about coke or party drugs

Bisping called rampage a cheater for trt, and rampage said " people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"

How does one hear that and think coke?
 
Jin Akutsu said:
EDIT as of 6/07/16:

Jones got caught with 2 banned substances.



Jon Jones fails out of competition USADA test, pulled from UFC 200.

http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-statement-on-jon-jones-july-6-2016



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Big news!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ting-done-on-jones-sample-all-came-back-clean

http://www.bjpenn.com/nsac-says-jones-cir-tests-came-back-clean/

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nevada...esults-show-no-signs-of-doping-013131428.html
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Victor Conte speculation: (Uncomfirmed speculation, on his reaction to the test.)









First tweeted by Kevin Iole:



Medical analysis:







http://www.sportsci.org/encyc/anabstereff/anabstereff.html

http://ic.galegroup.com/ic/scic/ReferenceDetailsPage/DocumentToolsPortletWindow?displayGroupName=Reference&jsid=39891f2fb63187e22eaea36a7b402f8c&action=2&catId=&documentId=GALE|CV2644041727&u=gotitans&zid=0c2a81f3ff532f0337d4c300db2c835f

http://www.researchgate.net/publica..._analysis_in_elite_basketball_during_a_season

Professional opinion:





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http://www.subjectmma.com/explained-jon-jones-drug-test-scandal/

Media articles:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/8/7510515/t-e-levels-raise-more-red-flags-with-jon-jones-drug-test

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7...petition-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone

http://culturecrossfire.com/sports/mma/jon-joness-testosterone-levels-are-suspect/#.VK5_jyvF-So

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/anti-d...rone-readings-cir-test-needed-on-jones-sample

http://www.bjpenn.com/jones-test-re...mal-hormone-levels-along-cocaine-metabolites/

http://www.f4wonline.com/component/...-his-te-ratio-wrestlemania-18-audio-tons-more

Blood drawn here, confirmation blood was drawn for testing:



Jon Jones hid from test rumor mentioned on SiriusXM Fight Club:



https://soundcloud.com/fdsafas-dsadfadsa-dafdasfada/savageradio

The first two tests for reference:

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A more recent test on 12/18 showed even a more extreme ratio compared to what Iole reported from the 12/4 test:

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Thoughts, discuss, flame, ect.
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Thanks for the post. Nicely done.
 
i am the only one viewing this thread right now. well i'll be.
 
Toxxus said:
I felt the same way when I saw their test results. Both guys looked suspicious as fuck.
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They actually said DC's levels were normal and were not suspicious

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vi...Levels-Before-UFC-182-Highly-Suspicious-80631

“If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. “If you look at Daniel [Cormier’s] two ratios, they were .42 and .47; that’s about an eight percent deviation. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation. His is suspicious and Daniel Cormier’s is not. It’s not just that he’s got very low [testosterone] levels, much lower than Daniel. Daniel’s are normal, his are extremely low.”
 
Hans Gruber said:
They actually said DC's levels were normal and were not suspicious

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vi...Levels-Before-UFC-182-Highly-Suspicious-80631

“If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. “If you look at Daniel [Cormier’s] two ratios, they were .42 and .47; that’s about an eight percent deviation. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation. His is suspicious and Daniel Cormier’s is not. It’s not just that he’s got very low [testosterone] levels, much lower than Daniel. Daniel’s are normal, his are extremely low.”
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Yup. The variation is very key.
 
LMFAO @ USADA ruining the sport! I told you fucks roids should be legal! If not, then strict testing like this is the way to go! I was always all or nothing. Don't give me half assed testing. Don't give me bs like TRT which allows a 40 year old man with 20+ years experience to have the test of a 20 year old on roids. This is good. I told ya'll everyone is on steroids!!! No way you can train for MMA and look like Lombard, Ubereem, Romero and have cardio at the same time. Yes, those guys gas but still have pretty amazing cardio considering the muscle they're packing. The only ones probably not roiding are the guys who don't use much strength / explosive movements like Bisping, Diaz and can't think of many more.
 
This shit was swept under the carpet at many mma sites - beloved ariel helwani blocked people on twitter asking him why he didnt do a story on it
 
basedworld said:
This shit was swept under the carpet at many mma sites - beloved ariel helwani blocked people on twitter asking him why he didnt do a story on it
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I contacted every single MMA Media outlet with our research and was shunned and banned by pretty much every single one.
 
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Hans Gruber said:
They actually said DC's levels were normal and were not suspicious

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vi...Levels-Before-UFC-182-Highly-Suspicious-80631

“If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. “If you look at Daniel [Cormier’s] two ratios, they were .42 and .47; that’s about an eight percent deviation. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation. His is suspicious and Daniel Cormier’s is not. It’s not just that he’s got very low [testosterone] levels, much lower than Daniel. Daniel’s are normal, his are extremely low.”
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interesting. Conte would know.
 
threelions said:
No he was accused of taking party drugs ie Coke by Rampage.
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LukeSkyRutten said:
That is speculation. Rampage said, there are a lot of things worse than TRT. That could just as easily mean a range of different synthetic testosterone [Which are much higher doses], EPO, HGH etc etc...
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If you know Mike

It's most likely the white stuff than anything else
 
LukeSkyRutten said:
That is speculation. Rampage said, there are a lot of things worse than TRT. That could just as easily mean a range of different synthetic testosterone [Which are much higher doses], EPO, HGH etc etc...
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Yeah, I wonder how effective EPO really is? Great strength for your weight class is one thing.. but great strength and LIMITLESS CARDIO.. holy shit balls, I want to be that superhuman bullying up on mere mortals.
 
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