Jon Jones Potential PED Maskers (.19/1 T/E) Discussion Thread (MERGED)

EDIT as of 7/18/16:

Jon Jones was confirmed to have tested positive for two estrogen blockers, which are considered banned substances under USADA testing.

http://mmajunkie.com/2016/07/nsac-u...trogen-blockers-receives-temporary-suspension
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Jones got caught with 2 banned substances.



Jon Jones fails out of competition USADA test, pulled from UFC 200.

http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-statement-on-jon-jones-july-6-2016

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Big news!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ting-done-on-jones-sample-all-came-back-clean

http://www.bjpenn.com/nsac-says-jones-cir-tests-came-back-clean/

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nevada...esults-show-no-signs-of-doping-013131428.html

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Victor Conte speculation: (Uncomfirmed speculation, on his reaction to the test.)









First tweeted by Kevin Iole:



Medical analysis:

http://www.sportsci.org/encyc/anabstereff/anabstereff.html

http://ic.galegroup.com/ic/scic/ReferenceDetailsPage/DocumentToolsPortletWindow?displayGroupName=Reference&jsid=39891f2fb63187e22eaea36a7b402f8c&action=2&catId=&documentId=GALE|CV2644041727&u=gotitans&zid=0c2a81f3ff532f0337d4c300db2c835f

http://www.researchgate.net/publica..._analysis_in_elite_basketball_during_a_season

Professional opinion:







http://www.subjectmma.com/explained-jon-jones-drug-test-scandal/

Media articles:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/8/7510515/t-e-levels-raise-more-red-flags-with-jon-jones-drug-test

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7...petition-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone

http://culturecrossfire.com/sports/mma/jon-joness-testosterone-levels-are-suspect/#.VK5_jyvF-So

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/anti-d...rone-readings-cir-test-needed-on-jones-sample

http://www.bjpenn.com/jones-test-re...mal-hormone-levels-along-cocaine-metabolites/

http://www.f4wonline.com/component/...-his-te-ratio-wrestlemania-18-audio-tons-more

Blood drawn here, confirmation blood was drawn for testing:



Jon Jones hid from test rumor mentioned on SiriusXM Fight Club:



https://soundcloud.com/fdsafas-dsadfadsa-dafdasfada/savageradio

The first two tests for reference:





A more recent test on 12/18 showed even a more extreme ratio compared to what Iole reported from the 12/4 test:



Thoughts, discuss, flame, ect.

 

Looks like Greg screwed up

 

Name specifically the grounds by which you would suspend him before getting your pants sued off.

 

So goddamn excited for this month. More so than even the fight, go figure.

I guess I knew Jones would win against Cormier, whereas here he might actually not.

 

coke+ped masking may actually get him in trouble

 

I'm not a legal expert so I can't answer that for you. Just posting what information I've gathered from the mega-thread and am inviting discussion.

 

The only answer.

 

That is thin to strip a belt from the best fighter in the UFC. I would like to see it addressed by the AC or the UFC, you know, an explanation or further investigation.

 

So you don't have a single reason to suspend or strip him, and your own answer to your question is:

"No, he shouldn't be stripped."

 

Didn't Siver get busted for masking agents and suspended? I believe there is precedent. May have been a bit different though. You may be right.

 

Unless you can turn "potentially" into "definitely", there's not much you can do there.

 

There is no chance in hell any organization would strip their best fighter of a belt without action from a commission.

 

Masking Agents .. how do they work?

 

Well Jones DIDN'T test positive for a masking agent, so how does that work here then?

 

The only outcome I look forward to is him stripped of the belt, and in a rage, whistle-blowing on a large Ped using ring. I want the Watergate of MMA. lol Baring that, I want to see his post fight test so further information can be had for reasonably intelligent discussion and speculation.

 

So you're saying Siver tested positive for a banned substance.

Grounds.

 

He passed a wada test you dummy.

 

According to Greg Savage there's a rumor that Jones hid under the cage @ Jackson's to avoid testing prior to December 4th

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thre...to-dec-4/?pc=9

 

http://mmajunkie.com/2014/04/ufcs-d...suspended-for-failed-drug-test-win-overturned

"Siver (21-9 MMA, 10-6 UFC), who tested positive for human chorionic gonadotropin..."

If you're asking my opinion, I'm unsure. We'll have to see how it settles out. It just doesn't look good for JBJ either way.

 

Guantanamo Bay is the only option for Jones.