Jon Jones Potential PED Maskers (.19/1 T/E) Discussion Thread (MERGED)

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  1. Jin Akutsu

    Jin Akutsu Gengar Belt Platinum Member

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    EDIT as of 7/18/16:

    Jon Jones was confirmed to have tested positive for two estrogen blockers, which are considered banned substances under USADA testing.

    http://mmajunkie.com/2016/07/nsac-u...trogen-blockers-receives-temporary-suspension

    Jones got caught with 2 banned substances.



    Jon Jones fails out of competition USADA test, pulled from UFC 200.

    http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-statement-on-jon-jones-july-6-2016



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    Big news!

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ting-done-on-jones-sample-all-came-back-clean

    http://www.bjpenn.com/nsac-says-jones-cir-tests-came-back-clean/

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nevada...esults-show-no-signs-of-doping-013131428.html


    Victor Conte speculation: (Uncomfirmed speculation, on his reaction to the test.)









    First tweeted by Kevin Iole:



    Medical analysis:











    http://www.sportsci.org/encyc/anabstereff/anabstereff.html

    http://ic.galegroup.com/ic/scic/ReferenceDetailsPage/DocumentToolsPortletWindow?displayGroupName=Reference&jsid=39891f2fb63187e22eaea36a7b402f8c&action=2&catId=&documentId=GALE|CV2644041727&u=gotitans&zid=0c2a81f3ff532f0337d4c300db2c835f

    http://www.researchgate.net/publica..._analysis_in_elite_basketball_during_a_season

    Professional opinion:





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    http://www.subjectmma.com/explained-jon-jones-drug-test-scandal/

    Media articles:

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/8/7510515/t-e-levels-raise-more-red-flags-with-jon-jones-drug-test

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/1/7...petition-drug-tests-all-show-abnormal-hormone

    http://culturecrossfire.com/sports/mma/jon-joness-testosterone-levels-are-suspect/#.VK5_jyvF-So

    http://mmajunkie.com/2015/01/anti-d...rone-readings-cir-test-needed-on-jones-sample

    http://www.bjpenn.com/jones-test-re...mal-hormone-levels-along-cocaine-metabolites/

    http://www.f4wonline.com/component/...-his-te-ratio-wrestlemania-18-audio-tons-more

    Blood drawn here, confirmation blood was drawn for testing:



    Jon Jones hid from test rumor mentioned on SiriusXM Fight Club:



    https://soundcloud.com/fdsafas-dsadfadsa-dafdasfada/savageradio

    The first two tests for reference:

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    A more recent test on 12/18 showed even a more extreme ratio compared to what Iole reported from the 12/4 test:

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    Thoughts, discuss, flame, ect.
     
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  2. UL

    UL no more yellows Double Yellow Card

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    Looks like Greg screwed up
     
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  3. Loiosh

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    Name specifically the grounds by which you would suspend him before getting your pants sued off.
     
  4. FoghornLeghorn

    FoghornLeghorn Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    So goddamn excited for this month. More so than even the fight, go figure.

    I guess I knew Jones would win against Cormier, whereas here he might actually not.
     
  5. Tamriel Terror

    Tamriel Terror Silver Belt

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    coke+ped masking may actually get him in trouble
     
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  6. Jin Akutsu

    Jin Akutsu Gengar Belt Platinum Member

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    I'm not a legal expert so I can't answer that for you. Just posting what information I've gathered from the mega-thread and am inviting discussion.
     
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    The only answer.


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  8. IngaVovchanchyn

    IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    That is thin to strip a belt from the best fighter in the UFC. I would like to see it addressed by the AC or the UFC, you know, an explanation or further investigation.
     
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  9. Loiosh

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    So you don't have a single reason to suspend or strip him, and your own answer to your question is:

    "No, he shouldn't be stripped."
     
  10. Jin Akutsu

    Jin Akutsu Gengar Belt Platinum Member

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    Didn't Siver get busted for masking agents and suspended? I believe there is precedent. May have been a bit different though. You may be right.
     
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    Unless you can turn "potentially" into "definitely", there's not much you can do there.
     
  12. Loiosh

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    There is no chance in hell any organization would strip their best fighter of a belt without action from a commission.
     
  13. kenetics

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    Masking Agents .. how do they work? :)
     
  14. Dyler Turden

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    Well Jones DIDN'T test positive for a masking agent, so how does that work here then?
     
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    Teppodama Red Belt

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    The only outcome I look forward to is him stripped of the belt, and in a rage, whistle-blowing on a large Ped using ring. I want the Watergate of MMA. lol Baring that, I want to see his post fight test so further information can be had for reasonably intelligent discussion and speculation.
     
  16. Loiosh

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    So you're saying Siver tested positive for a banned substance.

    Grounds.
     
  17. chukutee

    chukutee Genetic Freak

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    He passed a wada test you dummy.
     
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  19. Jin Akutsu

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    Guantanamo Bay is the only option for Jones.
     
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