Joe Schilling sucker punching drunk guy

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Rider on the Storm said:
You and I both know that you are wrong. I know that you know that you are wrong. There's nothing left but to judge your character.

Not admitting when you're wrong is very weak and cowardly. I called it from one of the very first interactions we had. That you wouldn't admit you were mistaken. And now here we are.
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It is yet another adolescent tactic to reverse the other party's statements on u on him instead. Is that all u have?

Anyway I have better things to do than to argue with you pointlessly.
 
Maori said:
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Joe has his hands down, unclenched fists. Balboa steps in with his left foot, chest out hands pulled back. Joe feels threatened, stand your ground law kicks in and Balboa gets kod.

Open and shut case
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Incorrect because it is schilling who approached balboa not the other way around. So schilling has already invalidated the stand your ground law for himself. Also see what schilling does - he doesnt see the step. All he sees is the lean of tje chin forward and he is tracking that chin. Even before balboa has stepped his foot down, zchilling has taken a small step to the right to clear the way for his first punch and then the second. It is premeditated and what he planned to do the moment he turned around and walked back towards balboa. The step into the right by Schilling is a huge giveaway and it covers even more ground than then step balboa was taking and it is likely balboa'a lawyer never spotted that move for the purposes of his case as u need to have boxing experience and training to spot it. If he were acting on instinct he wouldn't have time to take that step.
 
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Sanserif said:
Incorrect because it is schilling who approached balboa not the other way around. So schilling has already invalidated the stand your ground law for himself. Also see what schilling does - he doesnt see the step. All he sees is the lean of tje chin forward and he is tracking that chin. Even before balboa has stepped his foot down, zchilling has taken a small step to the right to clear the way for his first punch and then the second. It is premeditated and what he planned to do the moment he turned around and walked back towards balboa. The step into the right by Schilling is a huge giveaway and it covers even more ground than then step balboa was taking and it is likely balboa'a lawyer never spotted that move for the purposes of his case as u need to have boxing experience and training to spot it. If he were acting on instinct he wouldn't have time to take that step.
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So drunk guy did nothing wrong and Schilling did everything wrong and was the aggressor.

Life must be very difficult for you
 
Rider on the Storm said:
So drunk guy did nothing wrong and Schilling did everything wrong and was the aggressor.

Life must be very difficult for you
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This really is the last time I will be replying to you on this topic. I didn't say and I never said balboa didn't do any thing wrong. Why do u keep reading things I never said into what I actually typed?

What is said was is that it was not self defense what was done to balboa. Schilling had no justification to violently assault balboa at any point during their encounter.

Sure balboa shouldn't have behaved like a drunk making a nuisance of himself in the centre of the bar. But that doesn't mean he is fair game for anyone to knock him out for verbally arguing with them - especially for an ex pro mma and kickboxing fighter who towers over him by almost a head and is clearly also much stronger than he is.
 
Sanserif said:
This really is the last time I will be replying to you on this topic. I didn't say and I never said balboa didn't do any thing wrong. Why do u keep reading things I never said into what I actually typed?

What is said was is that it was not self defense what was done to balboa. Schilling had no justification to violently assault balboa at any point during their encounter.

Sure balboa shouldn't have behaved like a drunk making a nuisance of himself in the centre of the bar. But that doesn't mean he is fair game for anyone to knock him out for verbally arguing with them - especially for an ex pro mma and kickboxing fighter who towers over him by almost a head and is clearly also much stronger than he is.
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Schilling's appearance and presence alone would be good reason not to make sudden movements that mimic stepping into a punch. But that's exactly what Balboa did. Then he got cracked for it. The end.

I think you're more upset than Balboa about this.
 
MigitAs said:
Are u Prince or retarded who says u instead of you anymore smh.
<{walkerwhut}>
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I'm typing all this from my phone. U must be another adolescent since u resort to making personal insults just to someone typing in a fashion u don't like.
 
ExitLUPin said:


Babyboi called him back, drunk as a slob, squared up and made the first move at him.

You have to be braindead to defend the drunk slob here. Or a low IQ alcoholic with no self control yourself.
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Schilling actually bumped the dude and plowed through so its arguable who was looking for what

Schilling was begging for this to happen
 
Sanserif said:
Incorrect because it is schilling who approached balboa not the other way around. So schilling has already invalidated the stand your ground law for himself. Also see what schilling does - he doesnt see the step. All he sees is the lean of tje chin forward and he is tracking that chin. Even before balboa has stepped his foot down, zchilling has taken a small step to the right to clear the way for his first punch and then the second. It is premeditated and what he planned to do the moment he turned around and walked back towards balboa. The step into the right by Schilling is a huge giveaway and it covers even more ground than then step balboa was taking and it is likely balboa'a lawyer never spotted that move for the purposes of his case as u need to have boxing experience and training to spot it. If he were acting on instinct he wouldn't have time to take that step.
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Bruh, clearly Balboa calls him out which makes joe turn around from his intended path(which was away from Balboa).

you cant be this dumb
 
Maori said:
Bruh, clearly Balboa calls him out which makes joe turn around from his intended path.

you cant be this dumb
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Yet another insult. That's it for me in this thread - clearly too few adults left here to talk in a civilised and constructive fashion with. For your information, when he calls him, he doesn't have to walk back to confront him. If he stopped turned around and stayed where he is then that is standing your ground. The moment he walked back to balboa he negates it.
 
BluntForceTrama said:
Schilling actually bumped the dude and plowed through so its arguable who was looking for what

Schilling was begging for this to happen
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He probably didn't mind that balboa served it up for him no.

Have you looked into the details of how this drunk was behaving before the incident? There are many witnesses who have stated that Balboa was acting like an asshole to the wait staff and other customers. Just look at Balboa lock onto the waiter who is just trying to do his job. Balboa is so focused on the waiter that he steps/stumbles right into Joes path.

The guy probably deserved what he got so stop crying about it. Unless you're one of those people who just expect strangers in public to put up with your shitty antics. Then by all means take balboa side.
 
Rider on the Storm said:
He probably didn't mind that balboa served it up for him no.

Have you looked into the details of how this drunk was behaving before the incident? There are many witnesses who have stated that Balboa was acting like an asshole to the wait staff and other customers. Just look at Balboa lock onto the waiter who is just trying to do his job. Balboa is so focused on the waiter that he steps/stumbles right into Joes path.

The guy probably deserved what he got so stop crying about it. Unless you're one of those people who just expect strangers in public to put up with your shitty antics. Then by all means take balboa side.
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Oh Im not defending the schlep Didnt feel an ounce of sorry for him..... just calling it how I saw it


schilling has thuggish tendencies and his t shirt pretty much sums up his outlook
 
Sanserif said:
If he had been killed, Schilling would likely be going down for manslaughter.
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Listen I understand a difference of opinion and disagreeing with the law…. But you have to understand you’re wrong about this, right? He wasn’t charged with any crime and wasn’t found liable for damages in civil court either. If the guy died, nothing changes about Joe’s responsibility.

You were wrong initially and that’s a fact and now you’re claiming he’d be in trouble if the guy died? No, objectively no. It’s been ruled on. Not in Florida.
 
HunterAcosta said:
Yeah. Except the part of dropping dude on his head. And actually he half walked dude down. Dude coulda fell from the very top instead of half way down cause nate kjnda set him down. But i get what youre saying.
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I gotcha now. I'll be honest, I don't have a huge problem with what happened. Have read a lot that the guy he hit is a routine problem and prob had it coming. I'm not saying it's right, just that I get how it got there based on some of that. I've seen those kinds guys plenty, they're a hazard to themselves often.

But yeh, perfect world, prob better to incapacitate and try to avoid dropping them on their dome. I figure the adrenaline of the situation makes that kinda reasoning tough though, in the moment.
 
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