Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

[shockaholic12]

So funny how some people want to run a mile from that question. (The answer is no by the way)

Clearly I’ve discussed the topic at length as he’s referring to my prior posts about it so I’m not sure how you can claim I run a mile from it. If I did he wouldn’t be able to bring up my old posts about it would he?

The more interesting question to me is where the tendency of you guys to bring it up in threads you admit it has nothing to do with comes from. There’s a curiosity there that exceeds reason.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Clearly I’ve discussed the topic at length as he’s referring to my prior posts about it so I’m not sure how you can claim I run a mile from it. If I did he wouldn’t be able to bring up my old posts about it would he?

The more interesting question to me is where the tendency of you guys to bring it up in threads you admit it has nothing to do with comes from. There’s a curiosity there that exceeds reason.

You've probably got a well rehearsed answer then.

It gets confusing when someone can't answer a very basic question, can't confirm something that has been an axiom since the beginning of time.

 

[shockaholic12]

You've probably got a well rehearsed answer then.

It gets confusing when someone can't answer a very basic question, can't confirm something that has been an axiom since the beginning of time.

I question your theory that there were genders present at the Big Bang but at least it’s tangentially related to the topic

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

In older versions of the Bible Jesus came back as a GIANT along with 2 other giants!

believable!

Who is to say God did not cause the Big Bang?

 

[LostMyBlackBelt]

Why did God make Eve out of male DNA again? That made her trans...

 

[Koro_11]

@Koro_11

You may have missed this post and it was an interesting conversation. How does God instill this knowledge (morality) into us? Is it by the evolutionary process I mentioned or another method?

You don’t expect me to actually know the answer to that?

I would say it really doesn’t matter, let’s say it’s evolutionary and he set that evolution into motion. Either way, I think we all intuitively know right from wrong, but sometimes to do the right thing is the more difficult thing and a lot of people will take the path of instant gratification, including myself at times to some degree.

 

[Koro_11]

It’s god, therefore “magically” is an acceptable answer.

Can a man magically become a woman?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Can a man magically become a woman?

Yes. Through magic anything is possible

 

[Koro_11]

Yes. Through magic anything is possible

At least you finally admit that you’re just here to troll, I can respect that.

 

[DoctorTaco]

At least you finally admit that you’re just here to troll, I can respect that.

Huh?

If somebody believes in magic then I’m not going to argue with them about it. If magic can make a donkey talk and turn water into wine, heal the sick and resurrect the dead then why couldn’t it do what you asked?

 

[Koro_11]

Huh?

If somebody believes in magic then I’m not going to argue with them about it. If magic can make a donkey talk and turn water into wine, heal the sick and resurrect the dead then why couldn’t it do what you asked?

Now you’re just a straight up liar, because I never made any of those claims.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Now you’re just a straight up liar, because I never made any of those claims.

I never said you did. I was explaining my stance on magic since you asked me about it.

Bud, are you ok?

 

[HOLA]

This thread had a good run, but the immutable War Room law proved true in the end: Sooner or later every War Room thread turns into Trumpists obsessing over trannies.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

You don’t expect me to actually know the answer to that?

I would say it really doesn’t matter, let’s say it’s evolutionary and he set that evolution into motion. Either way, I think we all intuitively know right from wrong, but sometimes to do the right thing is the more difficult thing and a lot of people will take the path of instant gratification, including myself at times to some degree.

No one really knows for sure. I believe the evolutionary/naturalistic path to intelligence and morality is the most reasonable, but I don't know for sure that there isn't an undetectable god behind the scenes guiding things along the way. It just seems that adding a god guiding the way is unnecessary given what we know about evolution and biology.

Intuition isn't as universal as you may believe. For instance, would you let one person die if it saved three? Different people may intuitively have different answers to this dilemma.

 

[Koro_11]

No one really knows for sure. I believe the evolutionary/naturalistic path to intelligence and morality is the most reasonable, but I don't know for sure that there isn't an undetectable god behind the scenes guiding things along the way. It just seems that adding a god guiding the way is unnecessary given what we know about evolution and biology.

Intuition isn't as universal as you may believe. For instance, would you let one person die if it saved three? Different people may intuitively have different answers to this dilemma.

Yeah no one knows for sure and that's the truth.

I think God gets added because when you really start to think about the way everything works it's really hard to sell that it all just happened by chance.

As for the trolley cart problem you mention, yeah it all depends. If it was between saving one life or saving 3, I would save the 3. Of course if it's 1 life of a person that's dear to me, I will save that one over 3, and over 30 even.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Yeah no one knows for sure and that's the truth.

I think God gets added because when you really start to think about the way everything works it's really hard to sell that it all just happened by chance.

Well that just pushes the problem to god's nature then, instead of explaining how a fine-tuned universe came to be, you have to explain how a perfectly fine tuned, eternal and all powerful being like god came to be. If god just "Is" then why can't the universe?

As for the trolley cart problem you mention, yeah it all depends. If it was between saving one life or saving 3, I would save the 3. Of course if it's 1 life of a person that's dear to me, I will save that one over 3, and over 30 even.

So some people's moral intuition change depending on how directly they are involved. Some people intuitively view it differently and believe that actively causing harm, even to save others is morally wrong. Moral intuition differs and depends on what a person values. This actually is evidence that morality comes from a complex interweaving of different factors and not a single universal presence.

 

[Koro_11]

Well that just pushes the problem to god's nature then, instead of explaining how a fine-tuned universe came to be, you have to explain how a perfectly fine tuned, eternal and all powerful being like god came to be. If god just "Is" then why can't the universe?



So some people's moral intuition change depending on how directly they are involved. Some people intuitively view it differently and believe that actively causing harm, even to save others is morally wrong. Moral intuition differs and depends on what a person values. This actually is evidence that morality comes from a complex interweaving of different factors and not a single universal presence.

It can be, we already said that neither of us know. I believe it was God, you believe it wasn't.

Sure, and sometimes people are wrong, including me. Moral "intuition" is your own interpretation of what's moral to you, but there is still only one truth.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

It can be, we already said that neither of us know. I believe it was God, you believe it wasn't.

Sure, and sometimes people are wrong, including me. Moral "intuition" is your own interpretation of what's moral to you, but there is still only one truth.

So we have our own moral intuitions on the situation I gave. What's the moral truth there?

 

[Cajun]

Fun fact: this is biblical!

Romans chapter 9:

For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion. It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy ;For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” ;Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

22What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23;What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory

Oof... Roman's 9 is one of the ones often ignored. Well done.

 

[Koro_11]

So we have our own moral intuitions on the situation I gave. What's the moral truth there?

Thou shall not kill, so yeah don't kill one person even if it would save 3.