Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

[shockaholic12]

Unfortunately, we don’t ALL know it, but most of us do.

As for the second part, I’m not a neuroscientist, but it’s something intuitive which is I believe, instilled by our creator.

If a creator is choosing to only instill this instinctual moral compass in some and not others instead of ALL then it follows immoral acts are not only destined to occur but also god’s will. So if they are god’s will, is it still immoral, since god decides what’s moral according to you?

The logic is wonky

 

[Seano]

It's a cyclical situation where the universe expands and implodes on itself over trillions+ of years, and life finds a way due to star dust and the perfect conditions.

What isn't there to understand?

Yes, I'm aware of the AI definition. I'm saying that you can read it but you don't really understand it. What was before? What was the catalyst? At some point, you have to admit you don't really know and you're just parroting the currently accepted narrative.

 

[Seano]

double

 

[Deorum]

Interesting to see what he does with it.

The scope of the narrative is apparently going to be nothing short of monumental from everything I've read and heard, but I can't imagine it'll be more visceral than PotC.



Apocalypto was fucking savage too, but carried far less emotional impact. It has one of the greatest ending scenes in all of cinema, IMO. He is a great filmmaker.



Apocalypto gained some passionate champions in the Hollywood community. Actor Robert Duvall called it "maybe the best movie I've seen in 25 years". Actor Edward James Olmos said: "I was totally caught off guard. It's arguably the best movie I've seen in years. I was blown away". In 2013, director Spike Lee placed the film on his list of all-time essential films. Director Quentin Tarantino said: "I think it's a masterpiece. It was perhaps the best film of that year. I think it was the best artistic film of that year". Martin Scorsese, writing about the film, called it "a vision," adding: "Many pictures today don't go into troubling areas like this, the importance of violence in the perpetuation of what's known as civilization. I admire Apocalypto for its frankness, but also for the power and artistry of the filmmaking."

Ah yeah? damn i should just go kill somebody that annoys me, steal their shit. it's surely no moral problem derived from christian ethics. So what's so different now? christian ethics is imbued everywhere, from the corpus of law to interpersonal relationships, and even to the ways the polis is built.

I mentioned it in your Pope Leo thread as well, but the sheer level of endurance of its existence and irrevocable influence over our civilization and culture is really quite stirring. This summer marks 1,700 years since the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. In 2033, it will be a full-on 2,000 years since the establishment of his church.

If push truly ever came to shove, and it ultimately boils down to either preserving Christianity or killing it. Well, then....

 

[Koro_11]

If a creator is choosing to only instill this instinctual moral compass in some and not others instead of ALL then it follows immoral acts are not only destined to occur but also god’s will. So if they are god’s will, is it still immoral, since god decides what’s moral according to you?

The logic is wonky

You have such a childlike view of the world.

You can’t have moral without immoral just like without darkness light would have no meaning. Something can only be moral relative to something else, without the immoral, the moral would lose all meaning.

 

[Witchhunt]

A thread about Joe Rogan turned in to a fifty one page debate about the origins of the universe and the source of inherent morality…

The key to his success is exactly this.

 

[shockaholic12]

You have such a childlike view of the world.

You can’t have moral without immoral just like without darkness light would have no meaning. Something can only be moral relative to something else, without the immoral, the moral would lose all meaning.

I'm questioning your view of the world because it's full of wonky logic.

Your claims...

-This creator dictates what's moral

-this creator also infuses some of us, not ALL, with an intuitive compasses to know what is moral.

This implies some of us don't have free will to choose right as we don't have a compass and can't form morals on our own. Then how can I be judged on whether I'm moral? What am I being judged on? The creator's choice to make me moral? That's a judgement on the creator's morals not mine. Your logic accuses this creator of acting immorally as they have destined some of their subjects to no moral compass while setting the compass of what's moral. And if the creator can be immoral itself then it making the moral compass doesn't really make sense.

If you just take any of your posts and apply logic to them they fall apart.

Also what then is the point of Bible if morals are intuitive? You don't need fables to learn what's intuitive.

 

[Koro_11]

I'm questioning your view of the world because it's full of wonky logic.

Your claims...

-This creator dictates what's moral

-this creator also infuses some of us, not ALL, with an intuitive compasses to know what is moral.

This implies some of us don't have free will to choose right as we don't have a compass and can't form morals on our own. Then how can I be judged on whether I'm moral? What am I being judged on? The creator's choice to make me moral? That's a judgement on the creator's morals not mine. Your logic accuses this creator of acting immorally as they have destined some of their subjects to no moral compass while setting the compass of what's moral. And if the creator can be immoral itself then it making the moral compass doesn't really make sense.

If you just take any of your posts and apply logic to them they fall apart.

Also what then is the point of Bible if morals are intuitive? You don't need fables to learn what's intuitive.

They're not "my" claims, and as for "wonky logic", that's pretty funny coming from the guy who spams the forum defending the position that a man puts on a dress and becomes a woman.

Tell me again how gender is a spectrum, social construct and all that nonsense... then come to me claiming to be logical.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Which were adopted from the Code of Hammurabi.

Your point? We never heard of the code of Hammurabi when our laws were written.

Btw, the Code of Hammurabi openly said the more important you were the less severe the punishment should be especially if the victim was from a low social class.

 

[shockaholic12]

They're not "my" claims, and as for "wonky logic", that's pretty funny coming from the guy who spams the forum defending the position that a man puts on a dress and becomes a woman.

Tell me again how gender is a spectrum, social construct and all that nonsense... then come to me claiming to be logical.

If the meme was a not an obvious enough tap out you doubled and started screeching about drag queens in a thread about the Big Bang to make sure everyone knows you’re cooked lol.

 

[DoctorTaco]

You must have missed the 20th century, the whole "from each according to his ability to each according to his needs" thing has been tried over and over and failed miserably every time.

Fortunately for you it's still not too late since a few countries are still running that experiment. If you'd like to live in such a society, Cuba has some great beaches, and Venezuela has some beautiful women, and maybe on your next trip to Japan you can make a quick stop in North Korea which is on your way, see how that utopia is working out for the people's who actually live in it.

But in all seriousness, unfortunately I know that world all too well, I was born behind the Iron curtain, my wife is Cuban and I've spent several years there as well, and I even visited Venezuela while Chavez was in power, and every one of these places is a nightmare for the people who live there, and somehow they all dream of living in these Christian capitalist societies that you're shitting on. Crazy.

Thinking it over- you are advocating for Christian societies in this thread, but not in the way Described in their Holy, God inspired, infallible book?

 

[Koro_11]

If the meme was a not an obvious enough tap out you doubled and started screeching about drag queens in a thread about the Big Bang to make sure everyone knows you’re cooked lol.

Whatever you say, I'm having a conversation and you're being a smug pretentious twat who pretends to be on the side of reason and common sense while at the same time you're on other threads advocating that a man is a woman if he says he is.

Now normally I would leave that topic aside in this particular thread, but you're not trying to have a good faith conversation, you're trying to play gotcha while throwing in insults so here we are now with ad hominem attacks, and I can play that game too if it's what you prefer so hit me as hard as you like to get hit.

 

[Koro_11]

Thinking it over- you are advocating for Christian societies in this thread, but not in the way Described in their Holy, God inspired, infallible book?

Wait, stop jumping from one topic to another, you no longer wanna defend your position on the communist utopia?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Wait, stop jumping from one topic to another, you no longer wanna defend your position on the communist utopia?

You are the one advocating for a Christian society so I believe it is your job to defend what the holy scripture say a Christian society looks like.

 

[Koro_11]

You are the one advocating for a Christian society so I believe it is your job to defend what the holy scripture say a Christian society looks like.

I’m advocating for a Christian society that actually functions and doesn’t live in abject poverty and totalitarian dictatorship, so definitely not communism.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I’m advocating for a Christian society that actually functions and doesn’t live in abject poverty and totalitarian dictatorship, so definitely not communism.

Where are you getting your definition for a Christian society? And how is that somehow better than the one described in the holy book Christians are supposed to use to guide every aspect of their life?

How can your definition of a Christian society be better than the way the Christians who actually spent time with Jesus chose to live? The way that a divine, all knowing and all powerful holy creator deemed important enough to reach down through the pen of the author through holy inspirationand make sure it was recorded properly for future generations?

 

[shockaholic12]

Wait, stop jumping from one topic to another, you no longer wanna defend your position on the communist utopia?

Says the dude screeching about drag queens in here lol

 

[DoctorTaco]

Says the dude screeching about drag queens in here lol

I sort of love that I can directly quote scripture and get told I’m describing communism.

 

[heloder]

Your claims...

-This creator dictates what's moral

-this creator also infuses some of us, not ALL, with an intuitive compasses to know what is moral.

This implies some of us don't have free will to choose right as we don't have a compass and can't form morals on our own. Then how can I be judged on whether I'm moral? What am I being judged on? The creator's choice to make me moral? That's a judgement on the creator's morals not mine. Your logic accuses this creator of acting immorally as they have destined some of their subjects to no moral compass while setting the compass of what's moral. And if the creator can be immoral itself then it making the moral compass doesn't really make sense.

If you just take any of your posts and apply logic to them they fall apart.

Also what then is the point of Bible if morals are intuitive? You don't need fables to learn what's intuitive.

@Koro_11 don't forget to respond to this.

 

[DoctorTaco]

I'm questioning your view of the world because it's full of wonky logic.

Your claims...

-This creator dictates what's moral

-this creator also infuses some of us, not ALL, with an intuitive compasses to know what is moral.

This implies some of us don't have free will to choose right as we don't have a compass and can't form morals on our own. Then how can I be judged on whether I'm moral? What am I being judged on? The creator's choice to make me moral? That's a judgement on the creator's morals not mine. Your logic accuses this creator of acting immorally as they have destined some of their subjects to no moral compass while setting the compass of what's moral. And if the creator can be immoral itself then it making the moral compass doesn't really make sense.

If you just take any of your posts and apply logic to them they fall apart.

Also what then is the point of Bible if morals are intuitive? You don't need fables to learn what's intuitive.

Fun fact: this is biblical!

Romans chapter 9:

For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion. It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy ;For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” ;Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?

22What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23;What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory