Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

[DoctorTaco]

Not really no. The beauty of life is you can find your own purpose in it.

Mine is helping people and touchin titties, and brother life is good.

 

[Cajun]

The process of deciding what is cannon and what isn’t is fascinating. The first council of nicaea in 325AD got the ball rolling and then there have been debates and disagreements since then. It’s a really interesting process

Tough to say the bead squeezers are big on any sort of accountability considering… ya know.

Absolutely. Fruits of the spirit.

Wiping out another tribe and jacking their shit does more harm to yours than cooperation, trade, and intermingling the gene pool would.

“God is all powerful and all knowing, so of course he can make donkeys talk, put a baby in that woman and give the kid magic powers” is honestly a totally acceptable answer in my book. It’s weird when people want to explain away and try to add logic to the mysticism of a religion. Say it with your chest- “magic is real because God supplies it when he so chooses”. Is an honest answer and I’d never give someone shit for saying so.

What if I purpose that we determine our own meaning?

James must be rolling in his grave with all of the “thoughts and prayers” he sees people giving out after mass shootings


2 Timothy 3:16-

2 Peter 1:20-21:
Revelation 22:18-19:
Deuteronomy 4:21

I believe it is 98% the same now as it was in the very first texts we have copies of. The 2% that has changed is more structural than anything- did they go over the hill? Around it? Across it? Either way they got from A to B.

I’d guess it’s because Texas.

And also spending time in prayer, community and meditation is great. I don’t think there’s a god but once in a while I’ll drop into a random church for some bad coffee, friendly old ladies and lessons on morality. It’s nice.

Souls are another fun topic to chew on. Anyways, that first paragraph made me curious- have you read C.S. Lewis’ “mere Christianity?” You’d really like it. You’re touching on a lot of his points.

Well said.

There are plenty of civs that don’t have a judeo Christian background and they are still following the same rules as westerners (generally speaking).

I would challenge you to meet with
More people serving their communities without a theistic motive and chat with them. They’re full of higher purpose.

Sure, I’d believe that. Spending time in prayer and meditation, reading texts and cultivating compassion will
Absolutely make your life better. The best part is you don’t have to believe in a God to do these things and reap these benefits

I’m not sure I can think of a single choice that has no consequences when life and death are invinvolved

Good grief dude... can you just answer one of us?

 

[Koro_11]

The consequences of your actions here would be a dead child.

Which is of no consequence to a being without morals or purpose, which is of no consequence to any animal other than human.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Good grief dude... can you just answer one of us?

I always assumed a multi reply was being a polite poster than having a dozen posts in a row. I probably coulda stashed all that behind a spoiler tag, but I was excited! This shit is fun to talk about

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Mine is helping people and touchin titties, and brother life is good.

Could have been cooler if you'd said "and I'm all out of people to help" but I'll let it slide.

 

[Cajun]

I always assumed a multi reply was being a polite poster than having a dozen posts in a row. I probably coulda stashed all that behind a spoiler tag, but I was excited! This shit is fun to talk about

Im old. When I reply I can't tell which ones are mine haha. Will have a look

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Which is of no consequence to a being without morals or purpose, which is of no consequence to any animal other than human.

You're basically talking about psychopaths.

 

[Koro_11]

Not really no. The beauty of life is you can find your own purpose in it.

Wow, great answer, something I'd expect to hear from a teenage girl who just took a bong hit.... "yeah, we can just like hug a tree and find our own purpose man...."

 

[DoctorTaco]

Which is of no consequence to a being without morals or purpose, which is of no consequence to any animal other than human.

Maybe we aren’t seeing eye to eye on the term “consequences”. If I kill a child then consequentially there is now a dead child. Consequently There is now one less person for me to talk to, build with, share responsibilities and resources with, etc.

 

[Koro_11]

You're basically talking about psychopaths.

If there is no meaning or purpose to our existence, there is no reason why we shouldn't all be psychopaths.

 

[Cajun]

Also... I'm posting from my phone in Guyana...

 

[shockaholic12]

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I'm sorry but are you just fucken trolling now, or are you really not understanding the English words that I'm writing on here?

THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN OFFSPRING AND IN THE CASE OF PACK ANIMALS THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR GROUP BECAUSE OF STRENGTH IN NUMBERS, ETC... wolves, lions, etc... and other pack animals all do this, and we have already established this. Solitary animals also take care of their own offspring, but ALL THESE ANIMALS, BOTH PACK AND SOLITARY WILL GO TO WAR WITH THEIR OWN SPECIES IN COMPETITION FOR TERRITORY AND RESOURCES, CHIMPS WILL TEAR RIVAL CHIMPS APART, LIONS WILL KILL ANOTHER LION'S CUBS, AS WILL BEARS, ETC... These animals have NO SENSE of COMPASSION or FAIRNESS, they do only what improves their chance of survival, nothing more nothing less.

And yes there can absolutely be a scenario where attacking something has no consequence or risk involved, and if you don't think it doesn't exist right now I told you to just imagine it. It's a very simple question, IF such a scenario was there, IF it was just you and a child and there was no law against, no one to enforce it, no one to inflict retribution, and that child had a bunch of resources, and all you had to do to get them was to kill the child, with zero consequences, would you or would you not still consider it wrong?

There's no need for this word salad, it's plain and simple, we either have a greater purpose than just survival and furthering our own offspring or we don't. So in your opinion, is your existence only material or do you feel there is a greater purpose to your life?

So you’re describing a scenario where intelligent creatures have developed agreed upon behavioral preferences that favor cooperation and care over violence because that helps survival and limits the suffering of those within their social structures and this is all without a god telling them to. Those are the same as morals. You’ve made my point for me, again.

If it’s just me and child and no one else then as a social creature attacking the only other being I can socialize with has a few clear consequences. Every time you try to make up a scenario like this you face plant and miss its clear consequences.

 

[Koro_11]

Maybe we aren’t seeing eye to eye on the term “consequences”. If I kill a child then consequentially there is now a dead child. Consequently There is now one less person for me to talk to, build with, share responsibilities and resources with, etc.

You're deliberately avoiding the point of my question, it's not a game of gotcha or getting the last word.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Wow, great answer, something I'd expect to hear from a teenage girl who just took a bong hit.... "yeah, we can just like hug a tree and find our own purpose man...."

Are you familiar with the concept of free will Sherbro?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Wow, great answer, something I'd expect to hear from a teenage girl who just took a bong hit.... "yeah, we can just like hug a tree and find our own purpose man...."

Christians do it all the time. They just decide that it is God’s purpose for them.

I know guys who were told by God to move to Fiji and start a surf ministry. Folks from back home are sending them money every month to catch waves, hang on the beach and chat with folks about Jesus. I always thought it was Funny how God wasn’t telling them to move to the deep jungles of Borneo to spend a decade embedded with a local bush tribe, learning their language and then painstakingly translating the Bible for them just so they can’t start preaching the gospel.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

If there is no meaning or purpose to our existence, there is no reason why we shouldn't all be psychopaths.

There's a meaning in our experiences as we find them, there's a meaning in the bonds we make and the things that we do to use and the people around us. Is there a greater overall purpose to my existence than experiencing life, not being a cunt and reproducing? Not really.

 

[Koro_11]

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So you’re describing a scenario where intelligent creatures have developed agreed upon behavioral preferences that favor cooperation and care over violence because that helps survival and limits the suffering of those within their social structures and this is all without a god telling them to. Those are the same as morals. You’ve made my point for me, again.

If it’s just me and child and no one else then as a social creature attacking the only their other being I can socialize with has a few clear consequences. Every time you try to make up a scenario like this you face plant and miss its clear consequences.

No, every time I make a scenario you dicktuck and avoid answering the real question and make up some excuse how you'd only be doing it for some personal gain.

I told you to imagine a scenario where there is zero consequence, if you don't like my hypothetical make up your own, but it's obvious you won't because you're taking this conversation as some gotcha competition.

Either you think life has purpose and meaning or you don't, that's the only question I'm asking you and you've written a novel but have not yet answered that plain and simple question.

Does your life have meaning and purpose or does it not?

 

[DoctorTaco]

You're deliberately avoiding the point of my question, it's not a game of gotcha or getting the last word.

I am desperately trying to understand the point of your question. I unfortunately cannot think of a single instance of life and death (even theoretically) that would be devoid of consequences.

All actions have consequences. If I eat a sandwich then I no longer have a sandwich. If I move this coaster 6 inches to the left then it now sits somewhere else. Moving the coaster isn’t that big a deal but there are still consequences- it exist in a different space now. It’s just that this particular consequence doesn’t carry any real weight.

 

[Koro_11]

Christians do it all the time. They just decide that it is God’s purpose for them.

I know guys who were told by God to move to Fiji and start a surf ministry. Folks from back home are sending them money every month to catch waves, hang on the beach and chat with folks about Jesus. I always thought it was Funny how God wasn’t telling them to move to the deep jungles of Borneo to spend a decade embedded with a local bush tribe, learning their language and then painstakingly translating the Bible for them just so they can’t start preaching the gospel.

Why do you keep flipping back to what some other Christian did, I'm asking you, does your life have meaning and purpose or not?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I am desperately trying to understand the point of your question. I unfortunately cannot think of a single instance of life and death (even theoretically) that would be devoid of consequences.

All actions have consequences. If I eat a sandwich then I no longer have a sandwich. If I move this coaster 6 inches to the left then it now sits somewhere else. Moving the coaster isn’t that big a deal but there are still consequences- it exist in a different space now. It’s just that this particular consequence doesn’t carry any real weight.

But if you'd eat a sandwich why wouldn't you murder a baby?