Crime Joe pardons Hunter

[Jack Reacheround]

Trump pardoned Jared's dad and made him ambassador to France.

Don’t forget about Roger Stone. And like 10 other people he pardoned who should definitely have to serve out their sentences.

I love that picture though.

 

[Limbo Pete]

I don't think its unfair to assume nothing happened not only due to a general posture of assuming innocence until proven guilty but because in this case the individual in question was investigated for these allegations among many others. Hunter is certainly prone towards criminality in the realm of things like drug use, prostitution, and reckless driving but actually peddling influence is another matter entirely. Not saying I'd be surprised if evidence of this surfaced but given it hasn't and that the man has been investigated heavily I think its fair to assume innocence.

But they sure would like to be able to revisit every second (he can remember) of those years down to a microscopic level, while he is in prison, and as publicly as possible

 

[Limbo Pete]

I didnt ask you about why he was hired on to the board. I asked you why you thought he received backdated blanket immunity.

I think the actual reason is because his son is a degenerate fuck up, and god knows what kind of prostitutes, drugs, or random other bullshit he got up to for the last however long. I mean he's already been investigated thoroughly, but I imagine Biden -in addition to keeping him out of jail for the stuff he is obviously guilty of- wants to stop the entire process of rooting out his sons various indiscretions. The guy is a total fuck up so sooner or later, with enough time and pressure (and courts that may or may not give a shit) i'm sure something could lead to something. But i'm just spit balling here.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I didnt ask you about why he was hired on to the board. I asked you why you thought he received backdated blanket immunity.

You didn't ask me. Someone else did, I answered, and you attributed a position to me that was the opposite of the one I stated.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Speaking of sides, @Cajun:

Democrats in Congress Criticize Biden’s Pardon of His Son Hunter

Lawmakers in the president’s own party, many of them moderates, said his decision to pardon his son was selfish and would further damage Americans’ waning faith in democracy and the rule of law.

www.nytimes.com

Again, it's populists defending abuse of power while the liberal wing criticizes it. Just like how rightist populists are weirdly likely to defend corruption from the left. The side that matters isn't left/right but decent and reality-based vs. CTers and populists.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Is there another hypothesis that you’d like to express to refute it?

Biden’s statement didn’t explain the reason for backdating. I was curious, since you dismissed a theory, if there was another statement I missed that you were aware of.

If there isn’t, what is your thoughts on the blanket nature of the pardon and the backdating?

I, once again, am asking if you have any idea why it’s backdated since Biden didn’t express his reasoning.

Why are you unwilling to offer your opinion or idea as to why it’s backdated?

You didn't ask me. Someone else did, I answered, and you attributed a position to me that was the opposite of the one I stated.

Can you give an opinion on why it’s backdated?

 

[ShadowRun]

Can you give an opinion on why it’s backdated?

Geez, he's declining faster then good ole Biden.

 

[badascan]

Can you imagine being one of these people who would go so far as to insult others and act with hubris in defense of Hunter Biden? They to this very minute will double down on how much of a political witch hunt and how unfounded and unproven any accusation is, pardon be damned... The man was pardoned because why again?

 

[Cajun]

Come on. Let's not be weasely here.

What I think is not productive is not the little gibes you guys throw here and there but the abandonment of real argument in favor of personal stuff. Like instead of explaining why you think the GOP talking point was accurate in that other thread you're referencing, you just jump to assuming it's true and suggesting that there's something wrong with disagreeing (just being argumentative). It's skipping a key step. Even if you genuinely think that the claim was correct, what is gained by trying to ungenerously psychoanalyze someone disagreeing with it rather than just make the point?

I haven't thrown personal stuff bud... you have. Later and enjoy the fray.

 

[AZ103]

Here's the statement he made:

Statement from President Joe Biden | The White House

Today, I signed a pardon for my son Hunter. From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department’s decision-making, and I

www.whitehouse.gov

At any rate, it has nothing at all to do with Joe. Republicans have already been looking for any evidence to tie him to anything criminal for years, and they've come up short. The idea that they just need to look a little harder is stupid and not something serious people are entertaining. Disappointing of Cajun, but he's been kind of going off the rails lately.

Man youre a shell of yourself. You arent even trying.

If they tried and found nothing and already did their best this pardon would be completely unneccesary in the form its been given.

 

[chardog]

But pardoning his son doesn't make him exempt. Not that anyone would prosecute and 82+ year old ex president for that stuff.

Unless hunter flips on his dad, that makes him practically exempt.

 

[chardog]

How do you 'bring them down to that level' when they have always already been down there?

How is Biden pardoning family any different then when Trump, Carter and Clinton did it prior?

If you want something to be 'obvious' then make a case for it.

Having a fall guy in ukr, that can unravel the war would be a big problem for democrats

 

[chardog]

What do you mean when you say, “show me a Trump pardon that’s on the level of this one? What do you mean by “on the level”?

How about Paul Manafort, who was thought to have the dirt on Trump and Russian election interference that Mueller wanted, was convicted of 8 felony counts regarding financial crimes, was in the midst of having three properties seized worth about 26 million dollars? Trump hinted to Manafort that if he shut up and didn’t rat Trump out, he’d get a pardon, and that’s exactly what happened. No way in hell is the Hunter Biden pardon anything close to that.

And we know Trump doesn’t give a shit about out financial crimes, he pardoned Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, both convicted on fraud and tax charges.

Pardoning family? Trump did that of course, and Charles Kushner’s financial crimes were objectively worse than Hunter’s, plus his disgusting attempt at witness retaliation. And hell, Charles Kushner is about to be our Ambassador to France.

Any of those pardons are easily worse than this one. And if those don’t do it for you, how about the pardon of the Blackwater contractors who killed innocent Iraqi civilians? Those fuckers were convicted of murder and manslaughter charges.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/trump-pardon-of-blackwater-iraq-contractors-violates-international-law-un-idUSKBN294107/

Imagine being dumb enough to believe in the Russia hoax in 2024

 

[Xanzito]

C'mon guys, there's no proof of influence peddling in the Burisma case. I'm sure Hunter Biden has all the background and expertise to serve on that position, even tho his only experience with energy is the boost coke does to his system.

 

[syct23]

Having a fall guy in ukr, that can unravel the war would be a big problem for democrats

Who cares,

Dems aren’t in power anymore.. the end to this war will fall on Vance.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

I'm assuming i don't get this pardon, I'm a bit of a fuck up

yeah but I like ya

 

[Nameless Ghoul]

Biden Crime Family

 

[ShadowRun]

Some good points,
Also is GOP going to try and impeach Biden right now? if the roles were reverse Trump pardoned his son the vote would already been started. FBI would of raided every property Trump owns.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

yeah but I like ya

 

[iwannabeadored]

Not just that, but selectively competent depending on the issue.

Afghan Withdrawl - Incompetent.
Tracking down & prosecuting Jan6ers - Competent.
Border control - Incompetent.
Investigating parents protesting at school board meetings - Competent.
Foreign Affairs, especially related to Israel/Palestine & Russia - Incompetent.

Afghan withdrawal-trump signed the executive order right after losing the election for immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan. Criticized by his genersls