Crime Joe pardons Hunter

Please Pete stop. Red Foreman told us that was bad!
Red Foreman was right
You know, everything I've ever read about Ford pretty much supports that he was, personally, a kind and decent guy. But lord did he screw the political pooch on that one.
 
Every one of those pardons I listed are worse than Hunter’s, easily.
Is the blanket nature of it your biggest concern? I get that. But again, we just had a Spec Counsel investigation into Hunter and the tax and gun charges were all that was found. The House had their own investigation into the Bidens’ business dealings and did nothing but make fools of themselves while they found nothing.

Aside from Burisma, these years were also years of addiction, which Hunter has gotten treatment for. So others may disagree with me, but I see no need to dredge up drug crimes or something (buying, selling, whatever) and start prosecuting those. And what else could Hunter have done? Illegally lobby the US on behalf of a foreign country? That’s definitely fucking bad—but that’s exactly what Michael Flynn did. Trump pardoned Flynn and his supporters didn’t care. Fraud? Trump has pardoned shitloads of people for that, including his own cronies and family.

It seems to me that Righties are upset because Biden took a page out of their playbook.
That's really the long and short of it
 
Y'all are hitting the pipe waaaaaay way way the fuck too hard if you think Trump was going to pardon Hunter Biden lol, or even the base human capacity for wanting to mend fences with anyone that has crossed him
I didn’t think he would. He said he may, and I hoped he would.
 
mind blowing...Trump has never promised a break from corporations...he has and continues to give the oligarchs access to the levers of power...he literally created a special government scheme for a billionaire to do as he pleases...
I know but he is a master of double speak.
 
I haven't made one.... I've only asked questions.
Come on. Let's not be weasely here.
You get insulted when I say you are argumentative. Yet you insult me all the time. Maybe to get a rise I don't know but you aren't being honest here and don't expect questions. They are there..... like them or not bud.
What I think is not productive is not the little gibes you guys throw here and there but the abandonment of real argument in favor of personal stuff. Like instead of explaining why you think the GOP talking point was accurate in that other thread you're referencing, you just jump to assuming it's true and suggesting that there's something wrong with disagreeing (just being argumentative). It's skipping a key step. Even if you genuinely think that the claim was correct, what is gained by trying to ungenerously psychoanalyze someone disagreeing with it rather than just make the point?
 
This Is the kind of lie that a partisan person tells. There could have been money exchanging hands, there could have been all kinds of information exchanging hands and they clearly wanted something and you nor I know what that was.

I have never argued that they got what they were looking for, but to argue that it's definitely true that they didn't is to tell a kind of lie.

It's okay to have that opinion, but it's not okay to argue for the necessity of your position.
I don't think its unfair to assume nothing happened not only due to a general posture of assuming innocence until proven guilty but because in this case the individual in question was investigated for these allegations among many others. Hunter is certainly prone towards criminality in the realm of things like drug use, prostitution, and reckless driving but actually peddling influence is another matter entirely. Not saying I'd be surprised if evidence of this surfaced but given it hasn't and that the man has been investigated heavily I think its fair to assume innocence.
 
I’m glad you finally responded to a question I didn’t ask.
I was proving that you lied about my position. You really gotta do something about that reading comprehension. I understand that it's harder for some people than for others, but I don't believe it's impossible for you to get to normal.
 
I don't think its unfair to assume nothing happened not only due to a general posture of assuming innocence until proven guilty but because in this case the individual in question was investigated for these allegations among many others. Hunter is certainly prone towards criminality in the realm of things like drug use, prostitution, and reckless driving but actually peddling influence is another matter entirely. Not saying I'd be surprised if evidence of this surfaced but given it hasn't and that the man has been investigated heavily I think its fair to assume innocence.
I think the allegations about Joe were never plausible, contradicted available info, *and* were investigated thoroughly with no results. It's stretching beyond reason to act like it's an open question.
 
I was proving that you lied about my position. You really gotta do something about that reading comprehension. I understand that it's harder for some people than for others, but I don't believe it's impossible for you to get to normal.
I didnt ask you about why he was hired on to the board. I asked you why you thought he received backdated blanket immunity.
 
I don't think its unfair to assume nothing happened not only due to a general posture of assuming innocence until proven guilty but because in this case the individual in question was investigated for these allegations among many others. Hunter is certainly prone towards criminality in the realm of things like drug use, prostitution, and reckless driving but actually peddling influence is another matter entirely. Not saying I'd be surprised if evidence of this surfaced but given it hasn't and that the man has been investigated heavily I think its fair to assume innocence.
But if you say it like that, I don't want to argue with you. I agree. It's okay to assume nothing happened. It's not okay to state that position as a necessary one and that the opposing view is a conspiracy theory or some kind of absurdity.
 
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