Crime Joe pardons Hunter

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I already tagged you once for your wisdom. It inevitably knocked off a few knuckleheads from earlier.

I'll take the wheel from here on out thanks.

No offense but I’m a better driver of my words. I did notice that people that are disagreeing with it when you posted it though.

 

[SKYNET]

No offense but I’m a better driver of my words. I did notice that people that are disagreeing with it when you posted it though.

Sure you are. Funny how that works isn't it? All I have to do is post your stuff here to knock off the knuckleheads.

Imagine if you were this honest 4 years ago, we might all be getting along at this point

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Backdating 10 years tells me there's something worth looking at back then, wonder what it is...

Joe Biden selling influence through his son is well known and essentially proven through Hunter's text messages and emails. Joe knows that under a different DOJ, his son would already be in extreme trouble. Joe is protected by his office, but his son is not.

 

[Seano]

Holy shit youre dumber than I thought. You should be making 45 k not 60 k.


Trump controlled the white house
Mitch McConnell controlled the senate
And Dems controlled the house

So 2/3 controlled by the republicans and you’re blaming democrats lmfao !!! You stupid fuck

lol at this ridiculous emotional post.

45 K not 60 k... WTF does that mean?

Cuomo is a democrat. NY isn't a red state. Pelosi was the one who said Trump was a xenophobe and suggested visiting chinatown. Deblasio was the guy who told you not to worry about this silly "cold" and go see a movie.

Trump is the guy who fast tracked the vaccine to the people not democrats.

And really, what does it matter who was in office? Should they have passed a law making covid illegal? We locked down the country for a year and everyone still got covid.

 

[BFoe]

On the forum homepage there's a little bubble marked "create thread" you can make a thread about any topic you want instead of making other threads about something else. The future is now.

Oh there’s tons of threads already, and they’re full of “we don’t care, we won, cope more, seethe more, cry liberal tears” responses.

Apparently we are totally not supposed to do that same thing to you though, that would be terrible.

Old Man Bad and Mean Pardons, amirite?

 

[Source]

Sure you are. Funny how that works isn't it? All I have to do is post your stuff here to knock off the knuckleheads.

Imagine if you were this honest 4 years ago, we might all be getting along at this point

Please show me where I was being dishonest, I’ll wait.

 

[SKYNET]

Please show me where I was being dishonest, I’ll wait.

Never said you were dishonest. You just never reached this level of maturation until now. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm glad you finally came around

 

[Confucamus]

Oh there’s tons of threads already, and they’re full of “we don’t care, we won, cope more, seethe more, cry liberal tears” responses.

Apparently we are totally not supposed to do that same thing to you though, that would be terrible.

Old Man Bad and Mean Pardons, amirite?

Guess you weren't around here much after Biden won....

 

[Source]

Never said you were dishonest. You just never reached this level of maturation until now. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm glad you finally came around

If I wasn’t being honest in my posts then what was I being?

 

[Seano]

Oh there’s tons of threads already, and they’re full of “we don’t care, we won, cope more, seethe more, cry liberal tears” responses.

Apparently we are totally not supposed to do that same thing to you though, that would be terrible.

Old Man Bad and Mean Pardons, amirite?

Please, you and your tribe have been derailing every thread for the past 8 years with your "what about trump" bullshit. Spare us the victimhood.

 

[SKYNET]

If I wasn’t being honest in my posts then what was I being?

That's not up to me to decipher. Like I said, I never said dishonesty was your flaw

 

[PainIsLIfe]

I don't know how people can convincingly argue that there wasn't lawfare involved in the Hunter Biden charges.

They were trying to give him 25 years for:

1. Lying on a form about drug use when purchasing a gun. If we stringently prosecute this to the fullest extent of the law, half the people who own guns in this country would be in prison for weed.

2. Not paying his taxes. Which he eventually paid including penalties.

No normal person would get 25 years for this. Get real. It was politically motivated.

Just like Trump's BS 34 felony charges for "falsifying business records."

That E. Jean Carroll civil suit was a crock of shit too.

People: JUST CALL BALLS AND STRIKES OBJECTIVELY. Instead of selectively and hypocritically only criticizing one side.

That was the max. He wa expected to around 16 months for the gun and as many as 36 months for the tax fraud.


1. A woman in VA was charged with that very same statute.

2. He paid part of the taxes which only covered a couple of years that he cheated. Wesley Snipes got 3 years for similar.

 

[UberHere]

P

So, why did twice as many Americans as Canadians (relative to our respective populations) die from COVID?

Population density

 

[Seano]

P

Population density

And high population of seniors.

 

[ChosenOne]

Well if you want to cut out the rest of my argument, I guess you don't want to have a good faith discussion because it's the main thrust of my argument...
...

Sure but the 'main thrust' of your argument is a lie.

It is taking a situation that DOES NOT apply here and acting as if it does.

Everything you point to are cases where a person has avoided or not faced punishment yet.

This type of case we are discussing is one where the person has stood before the courts, accepted responsibility, and got a lesser punishment, in the way most non violent alcohol/drug cases do.

They paid the price, made restitution, entered drug rehab and have moved on with their life drgu free.

You keep repeating '... but there are some fathers who would want the cases reopened and the most serious charges brought back up and also prosecuted, even a decade later', out of some warped belief that as long as the person did not get the maximum, the father would think his kid still deserves punishment.

I reject that, as it is wrong.

If you dealt with this actual situation and stopped trying to change to one where a person evaded the law and responsibility you would agree. You know that which is why you keep trying to change it.

 

[UberHere]

Did we forget Trump invited the fuckin taliban in February 2020 and said he would withdraw all troops by May of 2021?

MAGA is dumb lol

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Withdrawal-from-Afghanistan.pdf

Did we forget that the actual withdrawal is on Biden’s record and not Trump’s?

Dems are dumb lol

 

[Source]

That's not up to me to decipher. Like I said, I never said dishonesty was your flaw

Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean I wasn’t being honest. As far as maturing, I make no illusion to that. I’m still not mature. I’m capable of having a disagreement without insulting people. Which seems to be a problem in the WR in general. When met with it I will respond in kind though.

 

[ChosenOne]

If this is/was simply a witch hunt then why did Biden's own DOJ go along with it?

And why does Hunter need a pardon for the last few years as well?

it is not simply a witch hunt. Hunter, like Trump, actually did the crimes.

But Hunter, unlike Trump, had already faced the courts and accepted responsibility and paid the price asked. That does not mean the legal system cannot go back and look at the crimes they did not charge. I have a friend, who during a terrible divorce and alcoholism, punched a guy in a bar and could have faced felony assault. The guy did not want to press charges and the prosecutor let him plead to 'misdemeanor mischief charge' instead of a 'felony assault' because the guy was in rehab by the time it went to court and he showed remorse.

Those type of decision happen all the time, and despite @terrapin pushing a position, that decades later they can AND SHOULD also charge the felony assault, because the father would support that, that is not how things typically work.

Hunter needs a pardon as Trump, Comer, Jim Jordan, et al, have proven over and over, even when they know they cannot get a conviction, when they tried in 5 or more prior investigations, they do not care, and will just launch another investigation as the magats cheer.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Sure but the 'main thrust' of your argument is a lie.

It is taking a situation that DOES NOT apply here and acting as if it does.

Everything you point to are cases where a person has avoided or not faced punishment yet.

This type of case we are discussing is one where the person has stood before the courts, accepted responsibility, and got a lesser punishment, in the way most non violent alcohol/drug cases do.

They paid the price, made restitution, entered drug rehab and have moved on with their life drgu free.

You keep repeating '... but there are some fathers who would want the cases reopened and the most serious charges brought back up and also prosecuted, even a decade later', out of some warped belief that as long as the person did not get the maximum, the father would think his kid still deserves punishment.

I reject that, as it is wrong.

If you dealt with this actual situation and stopped trying to change to one where a person evaded the law and responsibility you would agree. You know that which is why you keep trying to change it.

See here you are assuming that an 11-year pardon isn't meant to cover up other crimes....

You are presuming Hunter biden's innocence and I am not presuming that....

11 years is oddly specific and it looks to me like a nice way to get Hunter out of all kinds of problems. I'm not saying that's certain but I'm not the one who's arguing certainty here you are.


You keep trying to make me defend my claim of uncertainty but it is you who claimed that no father would allow his son to be prosecuted for crimes in the past. And I'm saying you can't defend that statement.

And you are conflating what has already been tried... perhaps dishonestly... with other crimes he may have committed ... crimes that I think its very plausible to believe he did.

And you keep ducking the larger context of my argument, which is that Trump is a uniquely villainous dishonest human being. Who tries intentionally to drag the entire country down into the swamp with him where he has an advantage. I think Biden has missed the moment here and failed to see the import of this situation and this time in history and pardoning his son Hunter is a profound error and gives the villainous side advantages they shouldn't have. Biden is the head of the democratic party and he has just shown the world that he's willing to pardon his son for 11 years solid for anything he might have done and that isn't the action of a deeply integris person.

Also you keep lying about my position and stating that I think some fathers want their sons to be prosecuted. I didn't say that. I said that some fathers would think it was the right thing to do and that's different from wanting it to happen.
You lie about my position to make it sound worse than it is because you know I have a point.



Every Democrat who cares about our country should stand United in the condemnation of what Biden has done here.

 

[SKYNET]

Just because you didn’t like it doesn’t mean I wasn’t being honest.

Just because I didn't "like" one of your posts doesn't mean I didn't like it. I support your honesty, never claimed you were dishonest.