Media Joaquin Buckley calls out Shavkat Rakhmonov in INTENSE speech *Update* Shavkat responds

[HNIC215]

"Intense speech" LOL

Anything he says comes out "intensely" - he's one of those annoying ass loud people who don't know any other way but to shout their thoughts.

 

[mkt]

I got Buck.

I got the one who know how to wrestle.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Well gee It's not like all the racism stopped in the 1800's right? Across MANY cultures in America there are phrases and terms that are known by everyone to be racist. Not just with black people. There are things everyone here knows not to call people of other cultures unless you're ready to fight. Boy is used as a dismissive and racist term to refer to a black man to this day and in America this is WIDELY known. Just like people know if you walk into say a heavily hispanic or italian or etc. neighborhood and say certain things to people there, you aren't likely to be walking back out.

Respect is a two way street. If you go out of your way to address people in terms that have been offensive to their people for generations, you wouldn't expect to be treated positively in return would you? It's like how a swastika isn't seen as universally offensive, but it would be a dick move to wear one to a bar mitzvah. Context is important especially when you're addressing someone who's customs you aren't familiar with.

I can’t keep up with all the new terms you guys develope. I thought boy was a degrading term to call any man insinuating a lack of development / knowledge or whatever. I guess I’ll just have to be labeled hasist by people like you. Sticks and stones and what not

 

[AmbassadorFright]

Shavkat destroys Cuckley.

 

[Mike]

I can’t keep up with all the new terms you guys develope. I thought boy was a degrading term to call any man insinuating a lack of development / knowledge or whatever. I guess I’ll just have to be labeled hasist by people like you. Sticks and stones and what not

Bro it's specifically been a racial slur towards blacks for centuries. I'm not making that up lmao. It's not my fault I know about the history of race relations in the country I live in. A cursory google search would show you this isn't something I invented lmao.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

I can speak as an American living in Spain that virtually *no one* here would understand or know in any way that that was insulting. A lot of them also don't understand the n-bomb at all, and only know it from rap, so they assume (fairly, tbh) that there's no issue using it, or it can even be endearing.
Most egregious I've seen here is that tons of people think that the US confederate flag is just a sign of being a biker or a rebel lol- FFS at least they know that swastikas are bad.

We use the N word (in spanish) all the time in here. Basically the darkest person of a group is called that and it is not offensive.

Americans are pretty weird to the rest of us. I know context is different with slavery and all of that but it is funny for us.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Hangin with the boyyzzzzzz means a whole nother thing to guys like Cuckley

That WMDS is thick in America
Shout out to all the non bothered types, they the real MVPs

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Buckley LOVES doing WWE bullshit callouts for every fight that he doesn't deserve and don't benefit his opponent to take, then if he ever meets them face to face, will quickly explain that it's all show for clicks and basically beg for them to agree so they can make money together, but still never explain why his opponent would bother fighting down that far for him

 

[KO Shotz]

Talking bout how he got held down against Usman, yet Shav will hold him down easier lol

Buck trying to sound tough but he really don't want the smoke with Shav.

 

[Koya]

its lame ass shit. In russian, black people are often called Negr, which carries no negative racial connotation whatsoever, its just a descriptive term, kind of like saying Shavkat is an asian. Black boy is nothing but a descriptive term, black people in the states find everything racist, its a virus in their head.
There were no black slave culture there, they don't carry that attitude across.

No I understand it's racist in the united state because of the history of slavery and how it was used. I am only saying as non native english speakers we shouldn't be assumed to know that, hence why Shavkat can't be blamed.

 

[SJP_SevenLaker]

Well gee It's not like all the racism stopped in the 1800's right? Across MANY cultures in America there are phrases and terms that are known by everyone to be racist. Not just with black people. There are things everyone here knows not to call people of other cultures unless you're ready to fight. Boy is used as a dismissive and racist term to refer to a black man to this day and in America this is WIDELY known. Just like people know if you walk into say a heavily hispanic or italian or etc. neighborhood and say certain things to people there, you aren't likely to be walking back out.

Respect is a two way street. If you go out of your way to address people in terms that have been offensive to their people for generations, you wouldn't expect to be treated positively in return would you? It's like how a swastika isn't seen as universally offensive, but it would be a dick move to wear one to a bar mitzvah. Context is important especially when you're addressing someone who's customs you aren't familiar with.

 

[Angelassassin53]

I'd rather have Shavkat vs Islam but fuck it, just get him back in there any which way.

The layoff is real, unfortunately. I think Shavkhat vs Usman personally, give Morales a crack at the belt

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

Horse meat vs Black boy Buck lets go

 

[svmr_db]

Updated the original post with a response from Shavkat.

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

Tbf to Buckley most people know referring to a black man as black boy is extremely racist and disrespectful. There's only history going back centuries of boy being a term of insult when used toward black men and minorities in general.

 

[Adamant]

lol, Buckley is way too far down the rankings to fight Shavkat. Shavkat should fight Prates. And then FINALLY get his damn title shot.

 

[blunttruth]

No people will say beating Buckley doesn't warrant a TS. I can see it already

They can't say that beating Buckley doesn't warrant a TS, after Usman gets his TS from beating Buckley. lol
I think Shavkat should take a "tuneup" fight, because his injury/illness/issues and time away, could prove to be career altering. I suggest he take a tune up against a wrestler, rather than someone like Buckley who may just knock his block off !

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

They should do the fight next, why not?. Lets remember Shavkat has only had a couple of UFC fights, he needs a lot more octagon time and we need to see him much more, Buckley will be a test and has a lot of UFC experience.

Geoff Neal was landing a lot of flush shots of Shavkat, and I don't think he has the same power as Buckley. Good matchup

 

[The_Renaissance]

Buckley doesn't deserve a top contender, he had one last time and shit the bed and proved he isn't quite there in terms of contendership.

 

[Tweak896]

I'd be cool if Shavkat didn't look like an old man after his injury, but also time has passed where there is a question. I was thinking if he was booked in december like originally, then someone low ranked like Buckley might be enough. Still think it would be a good matchup.

But at this point that he's not booked in December, I'm open to him fighting the toughest contender who also deserves a title shot. Its now over a year. We got potentially Topuria moving up, or others in line with reasons they deserve one.