Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

[SBJJ]

Considering it's the first known suicide in this particular prison, I'd say that qualifies as highly unusual. Not to mention the status of the inmate, and the circumstances surrounding his suicide.



I notice you cherry picking conspiracy theories when it's convenient to do so.

It all depends if the CT somehow helps his tribe

 

[Fawlty]

Considering it's the first known suicide in this particular prison, I'd say that qualifies as highly unusual. Not to mention the status of the inmate.

I notice you cherry picking conspiracy theories when it's convenient to do so.

I don't have a conspiracy theory about either event. In the case of the suicide, my speculation is that he killed himself because he was suicidal, and perhaps the guards were negligent. Not really unusual. I don't think pointing to an unproven assertion about MCCs suicide history is a valid counterpoint. But there's a high-profile investigation on, so we'll probably get the truth pretty soon. In the case of his unbelievably light sentence, my speculation is that something highly unusual caused the highly unusual plea deal.

 

[Fawlty]

It all depends if the CT somehow helps his tribe

Speculation that Epstein got off light due to some very unusual circumstances is not "helpful to my tribe" in any way. That's a neutral statement with respect to political bias, as the political consequences are simply unknown, though with the company he kept, it might even lean toward protecting somebody like Bill Clinton, which definitely wouldn't "help my tribe."

 

[HereticBD]

I don't have a conspiracy theory about either event. In the case of the suicide, my speculation is that he killed himself because he was suicidal, and perhaps the guards were negligent. Not really unusual.

Yeah, if you conveniently ignore his high profile status, all the convenient negligence in a facility that has never let any other inmate commit suicide under their watch(let alone a guy like Epstein), his cell mate being moved, radio silence on any camera footage...

I guess it's a run of the mill prison suicide, if you ignore all the factors that make it unusual.

In the case of his unbelievably light sentence, my speculation is that something highly unusual caused the highly unusual plea deal.

So, wealthy guy with a stupid amount of connections, gets a sweetheart deal = Highly unusual

But, wealthy guy with a stupid amount of incriminating evidence on said connections, commits suicide in prison, conveniently after being taken off of suicide watch hours before, conveniently had his cell mate moved hours before, in a facility with no such history of letting anyone commit suicide...

Nothing to see here.

LOL. Okay, Failty.

 

[SBJJ]

Speculation that Epstein got off light due to some very unusual circumstances is not "helpful to my tribe" in any way. That's a neutral statement with respect to political bias, as the political consequences are simply unknown, though with the company he kept, it might even lean toward protecting somebody like Bill Clinton, which definitely wouldn't "help my tribe."

You seem to forget the news coverage over that CT. I even believe someone in the Trump cabinet had to resign because of it.

This suicide looks incredibly bad for your tribe with all that came out right before he was found dead in his cell. It's pretty obvious why some are so angry at the thought this might continue

 

[My Spot]

I'm surprised he had a cellmate.

 

[Fawlty]

Yeah, if you conveniently ignore his high profile status, all the convenient negligence in a facility that has never let any other inmate commit suicide under their watch(let alone a guy like Epstein), his cell mate being moved, radio silence on any camera footage...

I guess it's a run of the mill prison suicide, if you ignore all the factors that make it unusual.



So, wealthy guy with a stupid amount of connections, gets a sweetheart deal = Highly unusual

But, wealthy guy with a stupid amount of incriminating evidence on said connections, commits suicide in prison, conveniently after being taken off of suicide watch hours before, conveniently had his cell mate moved hours before, in a facility with no such history of letting anyone commit suicide...

Nothing to see here.

LOL. Okay, Failty.

Again you call it "convenient" negligence, but you don't have evidence to support that claim. The practices of the prison will come out in the investigation, and then we can look at that piece with actual information at hand. I didn't say it was a run-of-the-mill suicide, but I do claim that suicidal people with a very recent history of suicide attempts are likely to kill themselves.

Yeah, it's highly unusual to get a sweetheart deal for child sex trafficking. So I suspect something unusual to have occurred. If it's just connections, that's really really far for a person or group to stick their neck out. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me as a normal kind of favor. That's an extraordinary favor.

 

[trident]

I'm surprised he had a cellmate.

 

[HereticBD]

Again you call it "convenient" negligence, but you don't have evidence to support that claim.

The protocol failures have already been called "highly irregular" by folks looking into it.

Seriously, you don't find anything at all convenient about moving his cell mate, leaving this fresh off of suicide watch inmate alone, mere hours before it went down?

 

[Fawlty]

You seem to forget the news coverage over that CT. I even believe someone in the Trump cabinet had to resign because of it.

This suicide looks incredibly bad for your tribe with all that came out right before he was found dead in his cell. It's pretty obvious why some are so angry at the thought this might continue

Labor Secretary Acosta resigned over it, and he was in charge of the plea deal. That angle deserves a look from investigators for sure. But that's not really great news for Democrats or anything. It's not "helpful" or something. Of the people implicated most strongly, Bill Richardson and Bill Clinton are both very important Democrats, and that would indeed be "bad for my tribe" if they were further implicated or proven to have committed sex crimes with Epstein or his crew. There's nobody comparable on the Republican side of the equation, unless we count the weaker allegations against Trump, which I don't put much stock in.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here, but I'm pretty sure it's a bad one that wasn't thought out very well.

 

[Fawlty]

The protocol failures have already been called "highly irregular" by folks looking into it.

Seriously, you don't find anything at all convenient about moving his cell mate, leaving this fresh off of suicide watch inmate alone, mere hours before it went down?

Not really, because an opportunity is required for suicide, and whatever opportunity it was that allowed the suicide to happen, it would be jumped on by you dweebs in exactly the same CT kind of way. There is a 100% prior probability of CT-thinking.

 

[MikeMcMann]

True but Clinton, Trump, Mossad, etc being responsible are legit CT's. It's perfectly possible it was just negligence at this point.

Sure naming someone specific at this point is a legit CT.

But we need to all understand there is a reason they have 'protective custody' in prison. Witnesses heading to court have been 'hit' prior to trial. Even witnesses the State considers super high value and they are doing everything to protect.

It certainly is not a CT, in the true sense of the words to be open to the idea, at this point, that someone with influences provided the circumstances for this to happen.

It could be something more benign like it was known if given the chance that Epstein would off himself so 'lets give him the chance'. Or as I said the type of purposeful negligence known as Jail House Justice where the guards just decide to leave the prisoner exposed.either to his own devices or to others who may harm him (generally other prisoners).

 

[Holic]

Headphone warning but I'm really glad Crowder said this.

 

[DeJulez]

Right Said Fred?

 

[Steve-French]

LOL @ ALL THE TINFOILERS IN HERE

The guy didn't want to live anymore because he lost his entire way of life and was looking at life in prison. He wasn't murdered, you guys are the irresponsible type of people that are responsible for that pizza place being shot up. Bet y'all voted for trump as well.

JUST LMAO.

Spoiler

but but my PIZZA GATE

I'm not the CT type myself, but something does seem fishy. Especially considering how the jail says they can't find the video of his cell.

 

[franklinstower]

I see negligence simply in the fact that he died in prison. This guy may have been one of the most valuable prisoners ever held in a US facility. I rank philia as among the highest crimes a human can commit.

Having a philia sex ring that pandered to the rich and powerful on a private island is a massive crime.

That extraordinary measures were not taken to ensure that this man lived, testified and brought countless others to justice is profound negligence of the worst kind.

I honestly cant think along any other lines on this topic other than bribes and payoffs resulting in allowing this man to kill himself or murdering him outright.

 

[BKMMAFAN]

Geraldo is already on Fox spreading his conspiracy nonsense. This has happened to high value defendants before, see Ariel Castro, it isn't unheard of. Very hard to prevent someone from harming himself; especially off suicide watch. This reeks gross negligence. Should be easy to digest by those who think the gov't can't do anything efficiently....

 

[hillelslovak87]

All life is a circle

I like how you posted a picture of dolphins, considering they ruthlessly rape and savage members of other pods, and even humans. lol

 

[franklinstower]

I like how you posted a picture of dolphins, considering they ruthlessly rape and savage members of other pods, and even humans. lol

Dolphins have rape culture. I tell everyone in the new age that as often as possible.

 

[trident]

Right Said Fred?

Midnight Oil?