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Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

How do ya think Epstein died?


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I suspect something big is going to break about Epstein’s death. We should have a definitive cause by now, and the fact that we don’t suggests some strange circumstances (beyond what has already been reported).
 
I suspect something big is going to break about Epstein’s death. We should have a definitive cause by now, and the fact that we don’t suggests some strange circumstances (beyond what has already been reported).

Do you read this thread?

Look who is doing the supposed autopsy. You won’t be getting any straight answers
 
Do you read this thread?

Look who is doing the supposed autopsy. You won’t be getting any straight answers

Admittedly, not for the last few pages. Why, who’s doing the autopsy? Terry McAuliffe?
 
I think you're stretching too far here. Yes, there is massive shadiness and it's likely that Robert Maxwell is connected to intelligence for several countries including Israel and was a crook. There are also some questions about Epstein's connections and how they came about. I think you're going in for the Alex Jones/George Galloway lines here though, forcing a conclusion.
I'm not married to any of these ideas. As a man I admire, Tony Judt, used to say, when the facts change, I change my mind (as an aside, Judt was instrumental in converting me to social democracy). If there's a smoking gun that Epstein was Israeli intelligence, I'd like to see it. If there's a smoking gun the other way, I'd like to see it. But as of now, that is my belief. I also forgot to mention Alex Acosta reportedly telling the Trump campaign while he was being vetted for Secretary of Labor that the reason he gave Epstein the sweetheart deal is because somebody above him told him that Epstein worked in intelligence and was above his pay grade. When asked recently about this, Acosta did not deny that, but instead referred cryptically to all of the "rabbit holes" surrounding Epstein and suggested that reporters should dig into them...
 
I'm not married to any of these ideas. As a man I admire, Tony Judt, used to say, when the facts change, I change my mind (as an aside, Judt was instrumental in converting me to social democracy). If there's a smoking gun that Epstein was Israeli intelligence, I'd like to see it. If there's a smoking gun the other way, I'd like to see it. But as of now, that is my belief. I also forgot to mention Alex Acosta reportedly telling the Trump campaign while he was being vetted for Secretary of Labor that the reason he gave Epstein the sweetheart deal is because somebody above him told him that Epstein worked in intelligence and was above his pay grade. When asked recently about this, Acosta did not deny that, but instead referred cryptically to all of the "rabbit holes" surrounding Epstein and suggested that reporters should dig into them...
It's never satisfying for us plebs when there are shady, high-level international circumstances and giant potential for very serious blackmail. However that stuff resolves itself, we don't usually get to see it. It's likely that any of our guesses are just completely wrong for reasons we couldn't have thought to consider.
 
^^^
So now the major issues/questions seem to be:

- why was he taken off suicide watch and moved out of the suicide 'proof' cells? Who was in on the decision? Did it follow normal protocol?
- why did the guard(s) not do their normal rounds which could hamper the time needed to complete the act?
- What is captured on CCTV? Were they working normally?
- If, indeed, he was supposed to have a cellmate, as an additional suicide deterrent, why did he not?

To repeat and update the above list it now appears that it is confirmed that it IS PROTOCOL that if an inmate is removed recently from suicide watch that they are then assigned a cell mate upon return to the regular cells, for a period of time, to add another layer of potentially difficulty should that inmate still want to commit suicide.

So again to update the questions...

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So now the major issues/questions seem to be:

- why was he taken off suicide watch and moved out of the suicide 'proof' cells? Who was in on the decision? Did the decision follow normal protocol?
- why did the guard(s) not do their normal rounds which could hamper the time needed to complete the act?
- What is captured on CCTV? Were they working normally?
- Since it is now reported he was supposed to have a cellmate, as an additional suicide deterrent, why did he not? Who made the call to override or ignore that protocol?
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...psteins-:eek::eek::eek::eek:phile-Island.html

FBI agents were seen raiding Jeffrey Epstein's private US Virgin Island, which has been dubbed ':eek::eek::eek::eek:phile Island', as the sex trafficking probe around the now deceased billionaire intensifies, as exclusive DailyMailTV footage shows the search being carried out.

A large group of FBI officers were seen disembarking speedboats at the pier of Little St James on Monday morning and driving around on golf carts after the 66-year-old was found dead by suicide in his New York jail cell early on Saturday morning.

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:eek::eek::eek::eek: Island has been invaded.



Too late tho, The fire probably burned some evidence.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...psteins-:eek::eek::eek::eek:phile-Island.html



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:eek::eek::eek::eek: Island has been invaded.



Too late tho, The fire probably burned some evidence.
Interesting. Took long enough. This is the most recent drone footage, uploaded 9 hours ago (no idea when any of these were filmed - also dont trust the dates that are claimed)

Also, I dont believe the recent claims of a recent fire were true. I think they were rumors that people kept repeating, of an older reported fire. But I could be wrong I didnt really look too hard into it.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...psteins-:eek::eek::eek::eek:phile-Island.html



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:eek::eek::eek::eek: Island has been invaded.



Too late tho, The fire probably burned some evidence.

I wish I could have more confidence in Barr running this investigation.

I actually think he should recuse himself and just allow the Inspector General to run it entirely.
 
Too late tho, The fire probably burned some evidence.
I haven't been able to substantiate the fire rumor. All I can find talking about it are obvious fake news sites and references to those sites.
 
Admittedly, not for the last few pages. Why, who’s doing the autopsy? Terry McAuliffe?

Ken Burns. It's gonna take forever, and you're gonna see way too many pictures of bikes and people playing baseball littered throughout the report.
 
Ken Burns. It's gonna take forever, and you're gonna see way too many pictures of bikes and people playing baseball littered throughout the report.

Oh, so it's gonna be a slideshow of photos with a subtle zoom?
The mystery deepens.
 
These are the most significant allegations in Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts’ unsealed memoir

  • A memoir written by one of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged victims Virginia Giuffre, née Roberts, was unsealed Friday giving an unprecedented look at life inside of the underaged sex ring.
  • In the 139 page exposé, Giuffre describes how Ghislaine Maxwell found her at the age of 15 while working at President Trump's Mar-a-Lago Resort. Maxwell invited her to audition for a masseuse role, then groomed her for sex work, according to Giuffre.
A memoir written by Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre, née Roberts, was unsealed on Friday, revealing new accusations of manipulation and abuse by sex offender Epstein and his circle of powerful acquaintances - from Prince Andrew to former senator and Disney chairman George Mitchell.

The 139-page exposé is one of the exhibits in Giuffre's lawsuit against Epstein's partner Ghislaine Maxwell, which settled in May 2017. The memoir details Giuffre's life as a teenager inside of Epstein's alleged sex ring, where she said she was forced to have sex with Epstein and Maxwell on command, and
to do the same with the men who she described as Epstein's clients, all against a backdrop of expensive champagne, fancy gowns, and frequent trips on Epstein's private jet.

Giuffre was just 15 when Maxwell spotted her working at President Donald Trump's Mar-A-Lago resort (page 22). Maxwell asked Giuffre to audition for a job as Epstein's traveling masseuse. It was during that first massage that Epstein and Maxwell made their true intentions clear, according to the memoir.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ins...cuser-virginia-roberts-unsealed-memoir-2019-8
 
These are the most significant allegations in Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts’ unsealed memoir

  • A memoir written by one of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged victims Virginia Giuffre, née Roberts, was unsealed Friday giving an unprecedented look at life inside of the underaged sex ring.
  • In the 139 page exposé, Giuffre describes how Ghislaine Maxwell found her at the age of 15 while working at President Trump's Mar-a-Lago Resort. Maxwell invited her to audition for a masseuse role, then groomed her for sex work, according to Giuffre.
A memoir written by Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre, née Roberts, was unsealed on Friday, revealing new accusations of manipulation and abuse by sex offender Epstein and his circle of powerful acquaintances - from Prince Andrew to former senator and Disney chairman George Mitchell.

The 139-page exposé is one of the exhibits in Giuffre's lawsuit against Epstein's partner Ghislaine Maxwell, which settled in May 2017. The memoir details Giuffre's life as a teenager inside of Epstein's alleged sex ring, where she said she was forced to have sex with Epstein and Maxwell on command, and
to do the same with the men who she described as Epstein's clients, all against a backdrop of expensive champagne, fancy gowns, and frequent trips on Epstein's private jet.

Giuffre was just 15 when Maxwell spotted her working at President Donald Trump's Mar-A-Lago resort (page 22). Maxwell asked Giuffre to audition for a job as Epstein's traveling masseuse. It was during that first massage that Epstein and Maxwell made their true intentions clear, according to the memoir.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ins...cuser-virginia-roberts-unsealed-memoir-2019-8

Clinton's a :eek::eek::eek::eek:, and despite a grooming going on in Trump's club, and all their contacts, Trump was probably trying to stop it all, and is a hero.
 
Clinton's a :eek::eek::eek::eek:, and despite a grooming going on in Trump's club, and all their contacts, Trump was probably trying to stop it all, and is a hero.

Lol.

This thread demonstrates why the president is willing to send out unfounded murder accusations against other presidents on Twitter. There is an entire group of supporters who are so warped that they don’t even see a problem with the leader of the free world accusing former presidents of murder with absolutely no evidence.
 
Barr cites 'failure' at NYC jail that held Epstein, says 'co-conspirators' should not rest easy

New Orleans(CNN)Attorney General William Barr said investigators are learning of "serious irregularities" at the New York jail where accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epsteinwas found dead of an apparent suicide over the weekend.

"We are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation," Barr told a national policing conference in New Orleans on Monday morning.

Barr said he was "appalled" and "angry" to learn of the Metropolitan Correctional Center's "failure to adequately secure this prisoner."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/08/12/politics/barr-new-york-jail-epstein/index.html
 
These are the most significant allegations in Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts’ unsealed memoir

  • A memoir written by one of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged victims Virginia Giuffre, née Roberts, was unsealed Friday giving an unprecedented look at life inside of the underaged sex ring.
  • In the 139 page exposé, Giuffre describes how Ghislaine Maxwell found her at the age of 15 while working at President Trump's Mar-a-Lago Resort. Maxwell invited her to audition for a masseuse role, then groomed her for sex work, according to Giuffre.
A memoir written by Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre, née Roberts, was unsealed on Friday, revealing new accusations of manipulation and abuse by sex offender Epstein and his circle of powerful acquaintances - from Prince Andrew to former senator and Disney chairman George Mitchell.

The 139-page exposé is one of the exhibits in Giuffre's lawsuit against Epstein's partner Ghislaine Maxwell, which settled in May 2017. The memoir details Giuffre's life as a teenager inside of Epstein's alleged sex ring, where she said she was forced to have sex with Epstein and Maxwell on command, and
to do the same with the men who she described as Epstein's clients, all against a backdrop of expensive champagne, fancy gowns, and frequent trips on Epstein's private jet.

Giuffre was just 15 when Maxwell spotted her working at President Donald Trump's Mar-A-Lago resort (page 22). Maxwell asked Giuffre to audition for a job as Epstein's traveling masseuse. It was during that first massage that Epstein and Maxwell made their true intentions clear, according to the memoir.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ins...cuser-virginia-roberts-unsealed-memoir-2019-8
Everyones so busy pointing at either Clinton or Trump that they overlooked the biggest :eek::eek::eek::eek: of all- Prince Andrew. He's going to take a starring role in the CT's in the days to come.
 
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