Crime Jeffrey Epstein Dead

How do ya think Epstein died?


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Lack of professionalism and suicide because consequences, yes.
Crazy conspiracy theories, no.

Ocham's Razor. What is more likely: that a prison guard decided to, at the very least, risk his job by not doing it correctly, thus letting the most high-profile inmate in his jail commit suicide? Or that some of the richest and most powerful men in the world decided to silence Epstein before he could potentially implicate them in his sordid activities?

If you picked the former, there's a bridge in Brooklyn I own if you're interested in buying...;)
 
Many things are possible.
Fewer things are probable.
The most probable cause of this are suicide and negligence.
That's the most likely scenario, in which case the institute will have some questions to answer. I foresee a thorough investigation. It's still a fishy situation.
 
I know what you liked about that show...
The acting of of JK Simmons? Indeed.
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Great post.
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I think he was murdered though. I always thought he would get killed once this got re-opened. The UK has had simliar cases covered up and then come to light.

Here's something that did happen. Documented to have happened.

Colin Wallace was high ranking military intelligence officer in psychological unit during the times of the troubles(70's), he had a cover job as an administrator.

He tried to whistleblow on :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes at kincora childrens home and also an attempted coup of Harold Wilson government.

They used his cover job to make out he was a fantasist, saying look he claims to be an "intelligence officer" but he is really just a low level admin. They also knew he was having an affair with a colleague so the security services murdered his colleagues husband and got him chucked in jail for 10 years on manslaughter charges.

The security services made one mistake, they had removed his name from the parachute trainers registar (it was in a huge Rolodex) however somone kept a back up copy that wasn't well known about and his card was still in there. This convinced the award winning investigative journalist Paul Foot he had a story here and through his contacts spoke to a General who would confirm "off the record" Walalces story and with some friendly MP's over the decades got the full story to go out.

It's crazy to think if they hadn't missed out on that Rolodex then Foot would have just thought the guy was a fraud. No investigation would take place, Wallace would be the fantasist who killed his lovers husband.
 
There are no facts, this is everyone just measuring their credulity.

You either buy it or not. No one can make a evidence based claim on either side.

We can fact check claims though, like if presidents do randomly kill people or have done. Or what previous methods and motivations have caused powerful people to act etc,
well, and thanks to opinions like yours those powerful men can get away with basically anything.
because, you know, they can rarely be fact checked thanks to their powerful connections.
 
Sure enough.
I always sit back and let Occam's razor guide me.
My imagination isn't really good enough to speculate much beyond the known facts.

Maybe, though, he was killed by an invisible, totally silent bird that walked through the walls of the cell and slipped him an undetectable mickey. :D

FFS, Operation Big Bird is still supposed to be classified!:eek:

Nice knowing you, bro;)
 
Ocham's Razor. What is more likely: that a prison guard decided to, at the very least, risk his job by not doing it correctly, thus letting the most high-profile inmate in his jail commit suicide? Or that some of the richest and most powerful men in the world decided to silence Epstein before he could potentially implicate them in his sordid activities?

If you picked the former, there's a bridge in Brooklyn I own if you're interested in buying...;)


You just showed you don't understand Occam's razor. One must not multiply unnecessarily. The much simpler explanation with fewer multiples and thus fewer chances of being wrong is exactly a guy doing his job wrong, instead of a massive conspiracy involving "global elites". In one case, it is on one guy. In another, it is this huge conspiracy that begins and ends who knows where.
 
The most probable cause of this are suicide and negligence.

Negligence being a big red flag.

Never mind the fact that it's extremely difficult for any Joe Blow inmate to commit suicide under suicide watch. They don't leave a guy this high profile alone, unless they intend to. The prison either has the biggest bumblefuck security personnel going, or...
 
Ocham's Razor. What is more likely: that a prison guard decided to, at the very least, risk his job by not doing it correctly, thus letting the most high-profile inmate in his jail commit suicide? Or that some of the richest and most powerful men in the world decided to silence Epstein before he could potentially implicate them in his sordid activities?

If you picked the former, there's a bridge in Brooklyn I own if you're interested in buying...;)
Is that how they spell it in Whereyou'refrom?
I pick the former because it requires things that are known:
Someone(s) dropped the ball
and
He knew he was cooked
 
well, and thanks to opinions like yours those powerful men can get away with basically anything.
because, you know, they can rarely be fact checked thanks to their powerful connections.

I'm getting the blame for powerful men getting away? Who knew i had such agency.
 
I've heard it's very easy to slit your throat with a thumbnail and pull your tongue out of the hole before you asphyxiate.
Jesus Christ man. I’m not sure which is more concerning: If this is true and your search engine lead you to discovering this or if you made this up entirely
 
Fuck this motherfucker. Burn in hell.

I now believe there is large scale :eek::eek::eek::eek:philia ongoing by high wealth and/or high profile individuals. This is one of the most disturbing evils of modern society. So many innocent lives are being destroyed. Damn.
Hollywood has some of the biggest :eek::eek::eek::eek:s
 
When thinking about this as a conspiracy to have Epstein dead, which many people with influence did, you have to look at the reality..

It had to reach down and get to the prison staff. Now, law enforcement personnel are all low level politicians. It's almost kind of pathetic how all cops have to pretend they are low level politicians, when doing the job best doesn't always require it, but I digress..

Somebody in charge would have had to reach down and tell the supervisor, who then told the guards to leave Epstein alone for a while; or to put something in his cell that shouldn't have been there. This IS NOT impossible, but remember when thinking that his death came from orders on high, the actual feed came from much lower.

Try to picture what that would look like before thinking about it just magically coming from the very top. I doubt the guards on in that shift were personally contacted by a Rothschild and given orders.. It would have had to have flowed through a channel of local authorities. So just understand how the actual mechanics of this hit would have occurred before making a claim.

Totally not impossible, btw. LEO's are very susceptible to doing things based on political pressure. It's really the job.
 
With suicide what assumptions we have to make are- Epstein was suicidal, he had the means to do so, he had the time to be allowed to do it.

motive method and opportunity.

The same exist for murder.
 
I foresee a thorough investigation.

LOL, I certainly don't. In fact, I doubt we'll hear much more about the circumstances surrounding his death after a few days.

He killed himself. The end. Now let's talk about what Trump tweeted today...
 
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