JDS beats Rothwell handily

Its as though the so called JDS fans want JDS to lose to Rothwell just so they can prove that Reem's win over him was a fluke because of his shot chin
 
Probably, but I wouldn't think of Rothwell any less if he lost.
 
Tough fight to call. JDS and Rothwell appear to be headed in opposite directions. I think the JDS that beat Miocic can beat Ben, but if JDS shows up looking like he did against Overeem, its going to be ugly
 
I love me some Cigano, but he was supposed to beat Overeem handily and he did close to nothing in that fight. Looked like he didnt even want to be there and was... scared. Ben ftw.
 
A few years ago I would have agreed with you but JDS hasn't looked his old self recently. Think about the the 2nd & 3rd Cain fights and also that war with Stipe and it's not all that shocking. Those kinds of fights especially with guys that big are going to take a toll.
 
He really should win this fight, but then again I thought he was surely going to beat Overeem as well. I really hope he pulls it off.
 
JDS has much better boxing technique. But look at his last few fights. He gets hit A LOT. Which is bad news against Rothwell. I can see JDS winning but Rothwell pushing forward and landing a fight ending punch.
 
Everyone saying JDS wins is thinking of the pre-Cain knockout specialist warrior. Everyone saying Ben will win is thinking of the post-Cain slow, plodding, tentative JDS. Unless JDS can summon up a time machine, he loses.
 
I don't know man, JDS has looked like a ghost in the cage last couple of times.
 
I think you are right, but I thought the same about Reem. I have no clue how good or bad he is right now.
 
Will not bet on this fight,

I dont know it feels like JDS doesnt have any motivation left, he need to change camp or do something....
against reem it felt like he was in there for a good payday

Against Stipe he didnt throw 1 single kick the whole fight, completly predictable

maybe he used PED in the past, that would explain why he look so soft nowadays? Who knows


I didnt believe the people who said Cain took his soul in that 3rd fight, But I believe you now.
 
jds hasnt beaten anyone handily in forever
 
Depends on what you mean by impressive beating Stipe is very impresive if you ask me regardless of how you do it. Stipe has looked like a beast lately and that win for JDS looks really good. In his last fight is the first time I wasn't impressed by JDS. He looked slow, confused, and was barely even attacking. He was just walking forward and eating punches pretty much never really attacking.

It's been a long time since I've seen the JDS/Stipe fight, and I probably should re-watch it, but I remember thinking Stipe got the better of JDS overall. Neither guy was overly impressive, but I thought Stipe had it on aggression and generally did more to win.
 
Yeah like he was supposed to KO Reem in the first :p
 
These days it seems like everyone beats Rothwell handily, until they don't.
 
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It's been a long time since I've seen the JDS/Stipe fight, and I probably should re-watch it, but I remember thinking Stipe got the better of JDS overall. Neither guy was overly impressive, but I thought Stipe had it on aggression and generally did more to win.

Yea I thought it was easy to see that JDS won the fight. The thing was Stipe messed up JDS's face early on and it only got much more worse with every hit. JDS though was landing the better counters. Fightmetric numbers have JDS outlanding Stipe by quite a bit and Sherog seems to agree that JDS won as well. Close fight certainly but I thought JDS pulled it out. At the time people said JDS was falling off but I think were seeing that Stipe is just a beast and beating him is going to take one hell of a fighter. I think the Struve KO made people think that Stipe wasn't that good.
 
But I'm still surprised this fight was made. They already ruined AA's chances for title shot nostalgia with giving him a young & hungry big guy in Stipe. Now they're doing the same to another veteran with a resurgence. Younger, faster, stronger. IMO, AA should've gotten the title shot already, as should Ben.

Rothwell is 34, JDS is 32.
 
I don't think JDS is a good comparison to GSP(or Lombard really they are much more well rounded, Ellenberger would be a better comparison IMO) and Shields beat multiple elite fighters in his run but GSP and Lombard were just too well rounded for him and had the skill set to keep it where they wanted.

I mean their paths with a skillset that should mean losses against top competition. Jardine had some pretty big upsets as well. It sometimes happens. Watching Rothwell fight, I don't see anything indicative to him stretching this win streak much further.

Rothwell is 34, JDS is 32.

Yeah, but Rothwell's been ironmanning since 01, and faced tough competition early on, while JDS beat some local fighters (along with Mondragon) in 06/07 and then came to the UFC. The point is though that JDS is a much better athlete closer to his physical prime.
 
I mean their paths with a skillset that should mean losses against top competition. Jardine had some pretty big upsets as well. It sometimes happens. Watching Rothwell fight, I don't see anything indicative to him stretching this win streak much further.



Yeah, but Rothwell's been ironmanning since 01, and faced tough competition early on, while JDS beat some local fighters (along with Mondragon) in 06/07 and then came to the UFC. The point is though that JDS is a much better athlete closer to his physical prime.

I see what you mean now that you mention Jardine, guys that seem like they shouldn't be as good as they are.

I'm not sure about that, Rothwell looks just about as good physically as ever, JDS looks slower and softer. Taking those 4 back to back to back to back beatings with Cain, Miocic and Overeem messed him up and you can only take so much punishment especially in such a small number of fights.

Rothwell has taken a decent amount of damage in his career but it was much more spread out.
 
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