Jake looks so average and Tommy Fury is so bad, Mike logically has to win.

[Intermission]

Another thing on this Jake Paul. He is not a big puncher. Yes he had a great KO against Woodley but it was a haymaker. Anybody can generate power with that. A truly big puncher doesn't need massive wind up

There's plenty of footage with him hitting shit. He doesn't hit hard for a club boxer or fast

 

[george14]

I don't know. The Jones fight was a work. I kind of have a hard time believing a real fight with a guy almost 60 vs a guy in his physical prime is being sanctioned, even if its Jake Paul.

It's amazing to me how people watched that fight and thought "Mike's still got it!" They told you beforehand it was fixed given KO's weren't allowed and it was an automatic draw....which means it was a work like you said.

Tyson's last two fights were against guys who were essentially regional-level boxers....TWENTY years ago. I realize Williams challenged for the WBC title but he never really beat anyone of note. He can take all the TRT, HGH, and other PEDs he chooses, but that isn't going to matter.

If this fight is real, Jake will stop him pretty easily, probably similar to how Holyfield was wrecked against (44 year old MMA fighter) Vitor Belfort.

 

[george14]

This is the argument most people are making when it comes to Jake's fights being "fixed:"

"I don't like Jake Paul and he won, therefore it's fixed. The only non-fixed fight was against Fury because Jake lost."

This is truly biased thinking. It's funny to watch people move the goalposts with him. Jake has decent skills as a boxer, especially for someone who just started and is already filthy rich. I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that suggests his fights are fixed in any way and people calling them fixed have the burden of proving they are fixed. He was simply much better than everyone he beat with the exception of the first Woodley fight.

With that said, I would hope this fight against Tyson is fixed given the strange rules and Mike's age.

 

[SirRealKiller]

Tyson is 58. Paul has legit boxing skills and is bigger.

I don't know that this version of Tyson being a senior citizen can really beat a guy like Paul who is in his prime. Tyson at 40? 45? Yeah, probably destroys Paul but 58 is a big number for a fighter. The thing you lose is speed which was what Mike's biggest strength at HWT was.

 

[LEWIS540]

Mike gets paid less if he knocks Paul out in rds 1-4.

You are about the 12th person who has parrotted this false narrative.

 

[mozfonky]

Except it literally happened for real.

He also said he was bedridden for a week after shooting the famous 3-second clip of him hitting pads with Rafael Cordeiro.

Oh bull. You guys believe anything.

 

[5acrossYOeye]

This fight is beyond stupid.

 

[mozfonky]

Nah, He lost two out of three against a Bowe and he lost to Lewis.

I said athlete, not boxer, but since you say that. At his best and on his best nights I believe he was better than both. But, I wasn't talking about boxing, lots of really great athletes wouldn't make great boxers and vice versa.

You put together an event, jumps, runs, weights, Bowe and Lewis would fall short of Holyfield. I'd bet the house on that. Bowe had to starve to make weight most of the time, that's not good for athletic events. Lewis is huge and took his era in boxing but he's not a better athlete either. Thats not to get into how holyfield turned pro at, I think just over the Light Heavyweight limit, like 176 or so and he was already in his twenties then. It's no small feat for him to beat the big boys.

 

[mozfonky]

It's amazing to me how people watched that fight and thought "Mike's still got it!" They told you beforehand it was fixed given KO's weren't allowed and it was an automatic draw....which means it was a work like you said.

Tyson's last two fights were against guys who were essentially regional-level boxers....TWENTY years ago. I realize Williams challenged for the WBC title but he never really beat anyone of note. He can take all the TRT, HGH, and other PEDs he chooses, but that isn't going to matter.

If this fight is real, Jake will stop him pretty easily, probably similar to how Holyfield was wrecked against (44 year old MMA fighter) Vitor Belfort.

Mike was mentally shot way before he was physically. That was always the weakest part of his arsenal. He very well may have been mentally broken by the Douglas fight although the Ruddock fights showed a true professional grit. After prison poor guy just never had a chance to put it all together and after Holyfield? Ya, he was broken. He's still Mike though and would it surprise me if he revives some of that old rage and chaos? It wouldn't. Holmes beat butterboy at 51 or 52 and Butterboy was about Paul level.

 

[mozfonky]

This fight is beyond stupid.

It is, and we're stupid for getting excited for it. I'm excited. Not so excited I'll hang out in my local bar to watch it but I anticipate it highly.

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Pretty sure if Tyson were to KO him in 4, he’d win that “survive 4 rounds side bet”.

Well surely you have to survive the 4th too? As in, go into the 5th

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Mayweathe Mcgregor was the once in a lifetime bet to make. I think Mike should win but Mike has never been stable upstairs, who knows whats going on in his mind. Even if his ability is the same, getting up there in front of people with the eyes of the world on you? I dunno and with how some of these stupid fights have gone, I don't know what to expect.

I do think Paul isn't a good pro or even a good ammie level fighter, Fury wasn't that great but he could find the cues for what Jake was trying to do with his right hand and easily avoided them where the other guys were basically sitting ducks. Askren and the other guy? Look, I've been around top mma'rs, they disgust me with their boxing, 30 years and they still are about where the early guys were. No excuse for that.

Exactly @ the Paul and MMA guys comments, completely agree. It's shocking how bad MMA guys' boxing is, despite training it... do they have some genetic aversion to adopting boxing I don't get it, bc they train with boxers and boxing trainers... don't get it.

Re: the Mayweather v McGregor fight - once in a lifetime bet for who? On who? Surely not on McGregor? Lol all the speculators at the time like 'ehh, you never know, he could catch him', I completely bet my house on it like... 'I 100% gaurantee you McGregor won't even hurt or come close to hurting him once', bc I just knew his punches would be like feathers to Mayweather. Because he's been boxing all his life, in thicker gloves - people have it backwards n think bc MMA guys take punches in smaller gloves, this makes their punches harder :/ it's the opposite, bc they cause more damage with less, they learn to punch less hard and have a delusion about their power, as McGregor did...

'Nobody can take this left hand', yeah, they can, he learned with boxing gloves they were like kids punches to Mayweather. Bc obviously boxers have thicker gloves they need to learn to punch harder to cause impact, it was obvious to me, plus his gas tank plus just general boxing ability, plus Mayweather's defence, I was like 'he stands 0 chance'.

 

[mozfonky]

Exactly @ the Paul and MMA guys comments, completely agree. It's shocking how bad MMA guys' boxing is, despite training it... do they have some genetic aversion to adopting boxing I don't get it, bc they train with boxers and boxing trainers... don't get it.

Re: the Mayweather v McGregor fight - once in a lifetime bet for who? On who? Surely not on McGregor? Lol all the speculators at the time like 'ehh, you never know, he could catch him', I completely bet my house on it like... 'I 100% gaurantee you McGregor won't even hurt or come close to hurting him once', bc I just knew his punches would be like feathers to Mayweather. Because he's been boxing all his life, in thicker gloves - people have it backwards n think bc MMA guys take punches in smaller gloves, this makes their punches harder :/ it's the opposite, bc they cause more damage with less, they learn to punch less hard and have a delusion about their power, as McGregor did...

'Nobody can take this left hand', yeah, they can, he learned with boxing gloves they were like kids punches to Mayweather. Bc obviously boxers have thicker gloves they need to learn to punch harder to cause impact, it was obvious to me, plus his gas tank plus just general boxing ability, plus Mayweather's defence, I was like 'he stands 0 chance'.

the odds were tilted in a way that anyone betting on mayweather could make a killing. it was the bet to make if you ever made one.

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

the odds were tilted in a way that anyone betting on mayweather could make a killing. it was the bet to make if you ever made one.

They were? I don't remember the odds, but I would have thought they were TOTALLY swayed in his favour like... if not that's ridiculous.

I think you're right though, I only didn't bet bc I didn't have the money at the time, bc I'm sure I remember being like 'wtf @ the odds' and being like 'this is ridiculous and if I had the money I'd put 5k on Mayweather'.

 

[mozfonky]

They were? I don't remember the odds, but I would have thought they were TOTALLY swayed in his favour like... if not that's ridiculous.

I think you're right though, I only didn't bet bc I didn't have the money at the time, bc I'm sure I remember being like 'wtf @ the odds' and being like 'this is ridiculous and if I had the money I'd put 5k on Mayweather'.

they weren't, it was shocking.

 

[Gigaton Punch]

Jake Paul is mysteriously only -200
I understand he's not particularly good as a pro boxer but Tyson is fucking 60 lmao
He was washed 25 years ago like how the fuck is he supposed to win this

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

they weren't, it was shocking.

Yeah, you're right I remember now. I remember thinking 'is everyone retarded? Am I missing something? Why is this so easy' and being gutted I couldn't bet on it

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Jake Paul is mysteriously only -200
I understand he's not particularly good as a pro boxer but Tyson is fucking 60 lmao
He was washed 25 years ago like how the fuck is he supposed to win this

Bc Jake Paul is not even a national level contender lmao. He's been boxing a few years.

He has no defence, no real size on Mike... a few inches on height... reach, but doesn't know how to use that properly...

Mike lost to Kevin McBride 20 years ago, yes, a journeyman HW, but still a journeyman boxer - a guy who's been boxing his whole life, and he's like 6 ft 6 and could just lean and smother Mike. Jake doesn't know how to do that, and won't have the confidence to... he'll amatuerishly try to run backwards with his head back.

Doesn't matter he's 58, he can still punch and move and has enough energy to catch Jake Paul.

As long as there's no BS aka Mike legit goes for it and doesn't hold back for any reason - Jake's going to sleep within 3-4 max.

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Another thing on this Jake Paul. He is not a big puncher. Yes he had a great KO against Woodley but it was a haymaker. Anybody can generate power with that. A truly big puncher doesn't need massive wind up

There's plenty of footage with him hitting shit. He doesn't hit hard for a club boxer or fast

I disagree he's not a big puncher.

He's knocked out OR down everybody he's fought. Not everybody can do that, plenty of top boxers have little power, Bivol for example, where they put together 50 punches in a row on target and it doesn't do the same damage. Power is innate, twitch muscle fibres and all that.

And you might say yeah but who did he knock out, true, but experience doesn't give you chin. You can't train chin.

Difference is,
He'll be shit scared to throw against Mike and too busy trying to run away, guarantee it. So his power doesn't matter if he's too scared to throw it, plus not skillful enough to hit Mike on target where he won't see it coming. The Woodley knock out... Mike woulda sensed that coming a fkn mile away lol, he wouldn't have been stood there to take it.

 

[LEWIS540]

Well surely you have to survive the 4th too? As in, go into the 5th

LOL