Jake looks so average and Tommy Fury is so bad, Mike logically has to win.

[Chaotic Progressor]

Yeah, I think so too. Except for this...



''iff he can''

This is probably what fkn Carl Froch alluded too, rumours he'd heard about 'mike not being able to go for it early', bc obviously that's his best chance of winning, if he just goes to knock Jake out with the max energy he has in the first 3 rounds.

So Jake is framing this with a huge money loot, 'if he CAN' like a challenge, as if that's an achievement... when it's taking away his advantage.

They probably fkn spoke about this shit behind the scenes.

There goes my bet,
Have lost faith in this being legitemate now.

 

[Intermission]

Just saw it recently and had to laugh. An MMA commentator getting this upset at a guest over boxing? I mean he's a boxing fan and all but that's secondary.

Im thinking it has to do with Tommy fury but don't ask dont tell. Or whatever. It was clearly a sensitive topic for Rogan. He's rarely rude to his guests

 

[Intermission]

Yeah, I think so too. Except for this...

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''iff he can''

This is probably what fkn Carl Froch alluded too, rumours he'd heard about 'mike not being able to go for it early', bc obviously that's his best chance of winning, if he just goes to knock Jake out with the max energy he has in the first 3 rounds.

So Jake is framing this with a huge money loot, 'if he CAN' like a challenge, as if that's an achievement... when it's taking away his advantage.

They probably fkn spoke about this shit behind the scenes.

There goes my bet,
Have lost faith in this being legitemate now.

Mike Tysons power has always been overrated . the only tough jaw he cracked was Botha and he stepped into it.

Mike failed to KO Mitch Green (has been koed by others but strong chin), bonecrusher, Tillis... Everybody who has a really good chin, he didnt KO

 

[Intermission]

Did nobody see Holyfield vs Belfort

Age matters

Period

Roy jones vs Tyson? Looked terrible

This is Such a stupid “fight “

Holyfield is in much worse shape

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Im thinking it has to do with Tommy fury but don't ask dont tell. Or whatever. It was clearly a sensitive topic for Rogan. He's rarely rude to his guests

Probably. Right away Rogan mentioned that Tommy was a good looking kid before throating him balls deep. Sounds like a man crush. He even made the guy rewatch the highlights hoping to convince him that Tommy was in fact the real deal. He was rude as fuck to his guest.

 

[mozfonky]

Mike Tysons power has always been overrated . the only tough jaw he cracked was Botha and he stepped into it.

Mike failed to KO Mitch Green (has been koed by others but strong chin), bonecrusher, Tillis... Everybody who has a really good chin, he didnt KO

that's true, his highlight reel is full of guys who either shouldn't have been in with him or good fighters petrified and looking for a reason to fall. Guys like Ruddock or Carl Williams who were really known for going down alot, of course he could put them down. But guys like Pinklon Thomas, or Tyrell Biggs or even Holmes, it took him a bit of work to kayo them. I always thought his speed made him special, accuracy too and his power was really really good but honestly, that division was full of power punchers or even just guys who could hurt you, I believe it was tyson's speed, accuracy, and of course, "bad intentions". At the peak of his reign he was asked what made him different and he said "intensity" it was true. I'm sure he could still muster that up for short periods, hopefully long enough and powerful enough to win.

As far as his stamina, outside of his best years when he could go a tough 12 rounds, his stamina was always a bit questionable. In both the Holyfield and the douglas fights, he was breathing like a tired race horse in a way we usually don't see with top boxers. Most elite boxers aren't even noticeably breathing hard in their post fight interviews.

 

[mozfonky]

Holyfield is in much worse shape

way more mileage, much longer ammie career and many ups and downs as a pro, I believe surgery on both shoulders and possibly some other surgeries that I don't know about. He was easily the best athlete of his era of heavyweights

 

[mozfonky]

I don't know. The Jones fight was a work. I kind of have a hard time believing a real fight with a guy almost 60 vs a guy in his physical prime is being sanctioned, even if its Jake Paul.

Well, it's boxing, very rarely has there been a lot of barriers when money can be made.

 

[LEWIS540]

ok, not sure who holmes was talking about, maybe he meant Tyson needed some patsies, he'd be right about that too, at least insofar as Foreman and Holmes conducted their comebacks.

I don't know why they'd throw a reputed 5-9, 5-10 guy (actually historically listed at 5-11.5) in with a guy who was as big as McBride.

If memory serves the Danny Williams fight was meant to be a gimme/ warm up for Tyson to help him prepare for a match with Vitali K.

Maybe that?

 

[mozfonky]

If memory serves the Danny Williams fight was meant to be a gimme/ warm up for Tyson to help him prepare for a match with Vitali K.

Maybe that?

Danny wasn't in his class, really but he fought hard and tyson injured himself, also, Danny didn't crumble like Mike needed his opponents to do. It's honestly one of my more liked Tyson performances, he just happened to lose it. He made his stand and he lost, I do believe he blew out his knee.

At any rate, 6-3 and above were the majority of oppenents who tyson usually didn't just walk over. Jim Lampley called it a myth that mike was a giant killer, in the prefight Lewis hoopla, I think that was true, he wasn't really a giant killer, the bigger guys often extended him. Green took him the distance and was never hurt, I mentioned Pinklon and Tucker was never rattled in their fight. I think biggs was 6-5 and peak tyson had to grind him down, great performance but not a one punch blowout.

Also, there is truth that a lot of guys just laid down for him, not "all" of them that some critics tried to say, but for every Mitch "Blood" Green there was a spinks who Arsenio Hall said went down to one knee at the prefight intros. for whatever reason, that combination of power, speed, menace and reputation was all it took to make guys lose their resolve.

 

[LEWIS540]

Danny wasn't in his class, really but he fought hard and tyson injured himself, also, Danny didn't crumble like Mike needed his opponents to do. It's honestly one of my more liked Tyson performances, he just happened to lose it. He made his stand and he lost, I do believe he blew out his knee.

At any rate, 6-3 and above were the majority of oppenents who tyson usually didn't just walk over. Jim Lampley called it a myth that mike was a giant killer, in the prefight Lewis hoopla, I think that was true, he wasn't really a giant killer, the bigger guys often extended him. Green took him the distance and was never hurt, I mentioned Pinklon and Tucker was never rattled in their fight. I think biggs was 6-5 and peak tyson had to grind him down, great performance but not a one punch blowout.

Also, there is truth that a lot of guys just laid down for him, not "all" of them that some critics tried to say, but for every Mitch "Blood" Green there was a spinks who Arsenio Hall said went down to one knee at the prefight intros. for whatever reason, that combination of power, speed, menace and reputation was all it took to make guys lose their resolve.

Pretty much.

One of those guys who is obviously overrated by casuals, but is pretty hard to figure out where he stands all time and in fantasy fights, if that is your thing.

 

[usernamee]

I don't know. The Jones fight was a work. I kind of have a hard time believing a real fight with a guy almost 60 vs a guy in his physical prime is being sanctioned, even if its Jake Paul.

But didn't we know beforehand that it was going to be an exhibition in the Jones case?

 

[-Magua-]

This fight is likely to be a work anyway.

My thoughts as well, not gonna watch this entertainment.
7 states of 31 including NY & Pennsylvania are not allowing betting on this fight.

Regardless, would tune in if against 15 year old Mike.

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Mike Tysons power has always been overrated . the only tough jaw he cracked was Botha and he stepped into it.

Mike failed to KO Mitch Green (has been koed by others but strong chin), bonecrusher, Tillis... Everybody who has a really good chin, he didnt KO

Well I agree it has been, but I agree for different reasons, as in, I don't think that's an insult to him...

The point is, his effectiveness was mostly timing - speed, timing and combinations. Yeah he had some 1 punch knockouts, but it was mostly multiple shots - body-head combos, pure technique and punches in bunches; slipping jabs to get on the inside to much taller and longer limbed men and unload like a Tazmanian devil.

So yeah, people always talk about power with him when they should be talking about those things.

And yeah those guys he didn't KO but he KO's 44/50 that he did fight, and... Jake Paul is not Mitch Green or Tillis, he isn't 50% of those guys. He's probably got a better right hand, even though he often lobs it with his eyes closed and head down (really bad idea against Tyson), but his movement; footwork, defence, is all bollocks.

I think Jake and the world are going to be in for a shot. Jake isn't hard to hit, for somebody like Mike Tyson especially.

Old man Mike early knockout incoming. Unless Mike takes that stupid '$5 mil if you go beyond 4' bait bullshit, which could be known between them / a way to stop him going hard early. So, I don't even have confidence this is all legit and above board now. Probably wasted my money on my bets.

 

[mozfonky]

My thoughts as well, not gonna watch this entertainment.
7 states including NY & Pennsylvania are not allowing betting on this fight.

Regardless, would tune in if against 15 year old Mike.

Inhuman, like watching enter the dragon or something. Holyfield once said that he was as fast as a 106 pounder, and it was with his whole body, and also how he jumped rope or hit the bags, find me another boxer, any weight who could rattle off a combo like that on the bag. All time at HW, Patterson was faster with his hands, but not by much. No coincidence they both learned under the same guy, speed is really a hallmark of the style. Kevin Rooney was no slouch in the speed department either.

 

[mozfonky]

Well I agree it has been, but I agree for different reasons, as in, I don't think that's an insult to him...

The point is, his effectiveness was mostly timing - speed, timing and combinations. Yeah he had some 1 punch knockouts, but it was mostly multiple shots - body-head combos, pure technique and punches in bunches; slipping jabs to get on the inside to much taller and longer limbed men and unload like a Tazmanian devil.

So yeah, people always talk about power with him when they should be talking about those things.

And yeah those guys he didn't KO but he KO's 44/50 that he did fight, and... Jake Paul is not Mitch Green or Tillis, he isn't 50% of those guys. He's probably got a better right hand, even though he often lobs it with his eyes closed and head down (really bad idea against Tyson), but his movement; footwork, defence, is all bollocks.

I think Jake and the world are going to be in for a shot. Jake isn't hard to hit, for somebody like Mike Tyson especially.

Old man Mike early knockout incoming. Unless Mike takes that stupid '$5 mil if you go beyond 4' bait bullshit, which could be known between them / a way to stop him going hard early. So, I don't even have confidence this is all legit and above board now. Probably wasted my money on my bets.

Mayweathe Mcgregor was the once in a lifetime bet to make. I think Mike should win but Mike has never been stable upstairs, who knows whats going on in his mind. Even if his ability is the same, getting up there in front of people with the eyes of the world on you? I dunno and with how some of these stupid fights have gone, I don't know what to expect.

I do think Paul isn't a good pro or even a good ammie level fighter, Fury wasn't that great but he could find the cues for what Jake was trying to do with his right hand and easily avoided them where the other guys were basically sitting ducks. Askren and the other guy? Look, I've been around top mma'rs, they disgust me with their boxing, 30 years and they still are about where the early guys were. No excuse for that.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Tommy Fury is terrible. IM Sorry to say. His own half brother Tyson called the match between Tommy and jake battle of the youtubers. He doesn't even respect the mans boxing abilities.

Even the Mike Tyson who lost to Kevin Mcrbide is better than Tommy Fury. And Kevin Mcbride is better than Jake anyway.

We have some data of Mike fighting somewhat against Roy and he looked fine (which is more than enough to whoop Jakes ass). Roy looked completely useless however and I would not bet on him to beat Jake ..

Tommy is an average boxer who doesn’t even take his own boxing career seriously. However, he’s not 60 years old. Unfortunately that’s gonna be the deciding factor this weekend and no one should be surprised! Tyson retired 20 years ago, and looked old then against a very average opponent. And at 60 he’s gonna be a shadow of that fighter.

This is a freak show and should not be happening. I’ll be tuning out after the Taylor/Serrano fight

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Now I've heard it all.

Jake Paul has ‘world class’ ability comparable to NBA and NFL All Stars, Boxing champions, says coach Larry Wade

 

[Pittie Petey]

Can they legally sell fights like this without telling us? I know wrestling does it so, maybe. I just think it's unfair to tell a good portion of their audience to expect a brawl when it's all been worked out beforehand.

Pro wrestling in the US doesnt represent itself as a legit competition, the McMahons actually testified in front of state governments back in the 80's and admitted it was a work so that they could get out from under the thumb of government regulations

You cant represent a worked fight as being legit(although it obviously happens in combat sports) but you can call it an exhibition and not a sanctioned contest, which is what they did with the Roy Jones - Tyson fight

 

[mozfonky]

Pro wrestling in the US doesnt represent itself as a legit competition, the McMahons actually testified in front of state governments back in the 80's and admitted it was a work so that they could get out from under the thumb of government regulations

You cant represent a worked fight as being legit(although it obviously happens in combat sports) but you can call it an exhibition and not a sanctioned contest, which is what they did with the Roy Jones - Tyson fight

And yet it seems it isnt clear for this fight.