I do. Some of them work in both sports nowadays. Barry Robinson (AMSB) is just one example. This Billy White that's with Mike trained directly under Cus so he already knows the PAB system inside & out. He and Mike actually go way back. Here's a photo of them together in 1986.
Well, they say Aaron was an ok trainer, I think part of his poor rep was just his youth, no one was used to seeing guys that young be trainers in those days. For good reason, I never liked the trainers my age, in my case, I just thought they were too immature and caught up in their own egos. But as far how good snowell was, he may have been ok, but I know that he didn't know how to stand up to Tyson in those days. He claimed that he told Tyson before the Douglas fight that with the way he was training he was headed towards a butt whipping but of course, if he did say that, tyson had no respect for him.
I've heard top fighters like Howard Davis have worked with mma guys, it doesn't seem to change their styles though. Its a weird thing, they don't even look like they can even get a proper boxing stance down for some reason. their elbows are always pointed out instead of in, they can't bend their backs like a boxer, I don't know why shit is so hard for those klutz's but it's frustrating to see. that's just a pet peeve of mine and i'd rather just not watch than watch people who don't give a fuck.I do. Some of them work in both sports nowadays. Barry Robinson (AMSB) is just one example. This Billy White that's with Mike trained directly under Cus so he already knows the PAB system inside & out. He and Mike actually go way back. Here's a photo of them together in 1986.
ya, people like to throw around those kinds of hyped up accolades. I don't ever know how true it is, but I never pay it much mind.
Elbow flare is a bad habit for any fighter no doubt. Anyway, the guy I mentioned earlier has worked with a lot of notable fighters some of which are legends: Fedor Emelianenko, Jose Aldo, Gokhan Saki, Andy Souwer, Dan Hooker, Lawrence Okolie, Cris Cyborg, Bo Nickal, Sittichai Sitsongpeenong, Manuel/Mahmoud Charr, and others. He also boxed himself as an amateur and won bouts at the national golden gloves level.
Alls i can say is I've seen some guys who had accolades and it really didn't mean much. Maybe your guy is the bees knees, I don't know, but I'm jaded at this point. I also hated how those types of guys craved validation but didn't want to really earn it.
He's not my guy at all. I'm just familiar with his accomplishments and have seen the success he's had over the years. I've also watched some of the film studies that he puts out breaking down fights and offering in-depth analysis. There are MMA, kickboxing & Muay Thai trainers involved in boxing that know their stuff. Years ago few did but that's been changing lately. Another guy is Dewey Cooper.
if you say so.
Right, but the 2 guys I just named involved in coaching at the elite levels of MMA and boxing have actually trained fighters that were contenders & world champions in both sports. When they were top guys not long after or way before. One of them coaches at the Mayweather Boxing Club. He was Ngannou's trainer when he was the UFC heavyweight champ and coached some top level boxers like Carlos Takam & Jessie Vargas. I have no idea who this Scottish guy is that you're referring to but I'll bet I know of him if you named him.
that's what I'm saying, I've known several guys with "credentials" I don't want to name names because that's not really fair to them but none of them were worth a shit and I'd tell them in a heartbeat and they wouldn't do a thing about it. I was like that when I was young and trying to get this thing called fighting down, I never did the way I wanted to because of all the bullshit. anyway, i'll check to see if I can find the name of the guy, he may not even be scottish but he's a solid trainer, don't agree with everything he says but you'll never find anyone that you'll agree 100 percent on things with unless your brainwashed.
They're no Manny Steward or Angelo Dundee but it's pretty dismissive to think that they don't know boxing when they've literally been there at the top with multiple fighters in the two most popular combat sports worldwide. The proof is in the pudding. Floyd Mayweather Sr. isn't going to hire some random joe that doesn't know anything about the sweet science. The trainers I'm speaking of also boxed competitively. They just made better trainers than they were boxers.
that's all good, if they are, not enough of them to go around.
I've seen that old guy Frank. He does look good but I don't know if he's an actual boxing trainer.
ok, thanks, I knew he was a solid fighter.
Just looked him up. Looks like he never turned pro. There's no mention of him on BoxRec but I did find some of his amateur boxing results. He competed at the 1965 European Championships and a bunch of duals. Then apparently he went into broadcasting and became a journalist.
ya, that's what I'm seeing. Very unusual to see an old boxer continue training at that age. Most of them let themselves go and end up potbellied like a George Benton.
According to this video he's in he had around 200 bouts as an amateur. Some of these old school ams really were well-schooled. For whatever reason they just didn't turn pro.
There are old photos of this guy as an amateur boxer and plenty of other Google results. So, he has a presence as a boxer even at 78. That's pretty cool.
