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Evangelicals are the actual death cult they are trying to paint Iran as.

It's an absolute cancer to the United States and a fucking scourge on Christianity as a whole; hardly even Christianity at that as @Fox by the Sea said. Heh, of course I kind of feel that way about all forms of protestantism (and I was raised protestant), but the 1A of the Constitution exists and must be upheld.
 

Israeli air power reigns over Iran, but needs US for deeper impact​

By Maayan Lubell, Lili Bayer, Ece Toksabay and Suleiman Al-Khalidi

  • Israel declares air superiority over Iran, Netanyahu calls it a 'game-changer'
  • Israeli warplanes refuel over Syria, showing freedom of action
  • Analyst says Israel able to act with impunity over Iran, but strategic success needs more than air power
  • Speed and scale of Israeli strikes caught many off guard, analyst says
JERUSALEM, June 17 (Reuters) - Israel's command of Iranian air space leaves few obstacles in the way of its expanding bombardment, though it will struggle to deal a knock-out blow to deeply buried nuclear sites without the U.S. joining the attack, experts say.

While Iran has responded with deadly missile strikes on Israeli cities, Israel has shown its military and intelligence pre-eminence as its warplanes have crisscrossed the Middle East, hitting Iranian nuclear installations, missile stockpiles, scientists, and generals - among other targets.

On Monday, several Israeli officials declared the establishment of air superiority over Iran. The military likened its control of Iranian skies to its command of the air space over other arenas of conflict with Iran-aligned enemies, such as over Gaza and Lebanon - where Israel continues to bomb at will.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday Israel's control of Iranian air space was "a game-changer". National Security Adviser Tzachi Hanegbi said pilots could operate "against countless more targets" over Tehran, thanks to the destruction of "dozens and dozens" of air defence batteries.

But even as Israeli officials laud the damage done so far, some publicly acknowledge Israel won't be able to completely knock out Iran's nuclear program - unless the U.S. joins the campaign with strategic bombers that can drop ordnance with the potential to penetrate sites buried deep underground.

Andreas Krieg, a senior lecturer at the School of Security Studies at King's College London, said Israel had achieved "quite a lot of operational and tactical successes ... But translating that into a strategic success will require more than what air power can deliver".

Krieg said even the heaviest U.S. bunker-busting bombs might struggle to penetrate Iran's deepest sites - in the event President Donald Trump decides to join the attack - suggesting special, commando-style forces might be needed on the ground.

Nevertheless, "Israel can act with impunity now, and they can do that in the way they did in it in Lebanon".

Israel launched its campaign on Friday, saying Tehran was on the verge of building a nuclear bomb - something Iran has always denied seeking from its uranium enrichment program.

While the Iranian military says it has downed Israeli warplanes, Israel denies this and says no crews or planes have been harmed during their missions to Iran, a return journey of some 3,000 km (2,000 miles) or more.

A senior Western defence source said Israeli warplanes have been refuelling over Syria - a bastion of Iranian influence until Bashar al-Assad was toppled in December. Israel is now operating over Syria with "near-total freedom", the source said.

Full read at: https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...-over-iran-needs-us-deeper-impact-2025-06-17/
 

Israeli air power reigns over Iran, but needs US for deeper impact​

By Maayan Lubell, Lili Bayer, Ece Toksabay and Suleiman Al-Khalidi

  • Israel declares air superiority over Iran, Netanyahu calls it a 'game-changer'
  • Israeli warplanes refuel over Syria, showing freedom of action
  • Analyst says Israel able to act with impunity over Iran, but strategic success needs more than air power
  • Speed and scale of Israeli strikes caught many off guard, analyst says
JERUSALEM, June 17 (Reuters) - Israel's command of Iranian air space leaves few obstacles in the way of its expanding bombardment, though it will struggle to deal a knock-out blow to deeply buried nuclear sites without the U.S. joining the attack, experts say.

While Iran has responded with deadly missile strikes on Israeli cities, Israel has shown its military and intelligence pre-eminence as its warplanes have crisscrossed the Middle East, hitting Iranian nuclear installations, missile stockpiles, scientists, and generals - among other targets.

On Monday, several Israeli officials declared the establishment of air superiority over Iran. The military likened its control of Iranian skies to its command of the air space over other arenas of conflict with Iran-aligned enemies, such as over Gaza and Lebanon - where Israel continues to bomb at will.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday Israel's control of Iranian air space was "a game-changer". National Security Adviser Tzachi Hanegbi said pilots could operate "against countless more targets" over Tehran, thanks to the destruction of "dozens and dozens" of air defence batteries.

But even as Israeli officials laud the damage done so far, some publicly acknowledge Israel won't be able to completely knock out Iran's nuclear program - unless the U.S. joins the campaign with strategic bombers that can drop ordnance with the potential to penetrate sites buried deep underground.

Andreas Krieg, a senior lecturer at the School of Security Studies at King's College London, said Israel had achieved "quite a lot of operational and tactical successes ... But translating that into a strategic success will require more than what air power can deliver".

Krieg said even the heaviest U.S. bunker-busting bombs might struggle to penetrate Iran's deepest sites - in the event President Donald Trump decides to join the attack - suggesting special, commando-style forces might be needed on the ground.

Nevertheless, "Israel can act with impunity now, and they can do that in the way they did in it in Lebanon".

Israel launched its campaign on Friday, saying Tehran was on the verge of building a nuclear bomb - something Iran has always denied seeking from its uranium enrichment program.

While the Iranian military says it has downed Israeli warplanes, Israel denies this and says no crews or planes have been harmed during their missions to Iran, a return journey of some 3,000 km (2,000 miles) or more.

A senior Western defence source said Israeli warplanes have been refuelling over Syria - a bastion of Iranian influence until Bashar al-Assad was toppled in December. Israel is now operating over Syria with "near-total freedom", the source said.

Full read at: https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...-over-iran-needs-us-deeper-impact-2025-06-17/
 

Israeli air power reigns over Iran, but needs US for deeper impact​

By Maayan Lubell, Lili Bayer, Ece Toksabay and Suleiman Al-Khalidi

  • Israel declares air superiority over Iran, Netanyahu calls it a 'game-changer'
  • Israeli warplanes refuel over Syria, showing freedom of action
  • Analyst says Israel able to act with impunity over Iran, but strategic success needs more than air power
  • Speed and scale of Israeli strikes caught many off guard, analyst says
JERUSALEM, June 17 (Reuters) - Israel's command of Iranian air space leaves few obstacles in the way of its expanding bombardment, though it will struggle to deal a knock-out blow to deeply buried nuclear sites without the U.S. joining the attack, experts say.

While Iran has responded with deadly missile strikes on Israeli cities, Israel has shown its military and intelligence pre-eminence as its warplanes have crisscrossed the Middle East, hitting Iranian nuclear installations, missile stockpiles, scientists, and generals - among other targets.

On Monday, several Israeli officials declared the establishment of air superiority over Iran. The military likened its control of Iranian skies to its command of the air space over other arenas of conflict with Iran-aligned enemies, such as over Gaza and Lebanon - where Israel continues to bomb at will.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday Israel's control of Iranian air space was "a game-changer". National Security Adviser Tzachi Hanegbi said pilots could operate "against countless more targets" over Tehran, thanks to the destruction of "dozens and dozens" of air defence batteries.

But even as Israeli officials laud the damage done so far, some publicly acknowledge Israel won't be able to completely knock out Iran's nuclear program - unless the U.S. joins the campaign with strategic bombers that can drop ordnance with the potential to penetrate sites buried deep underground.

Andreas Krieg, a senior lecturer at the School of Security Studies at King's College London, said Israel had achieved "quite a lot of operational and tactical successes ... But translating that into a strategic success will require more than what air power can deliver".

Krieg said even the heaviest U.S. bunker-busting bombs might struggle to penetrate Iran's deepest sites - in the event President Donald Trump decides to join the attack - suggesting special, commando-style forces might be needed on the ground.

Nevertheless, "Israel can act with impunity now, and they can do that in the way they did in it in Lebanon".

Israel launched its campaign on Friday, saying Tehran was on the verge of building a nuclear bomb - something Iran has always denied seeking from its uranium enrichment program.

While the Iranian military says it has downed Israeli warplanes, Israel denies this and says no crews or planes have been harmed during their missions to Iran, a return journey of some 3,000 km (2,000 miles) or more.

A senior Western defence source said Israeli warplanes have been refuelling over Syria - a bastion of Iranian influence until Bashar al-Assad was toppled in December. Israel is now operating over Syria with "near-total freedom", the source said.

Full read at: https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...-over-iran-needs-us-deeper-impact-2025-06-17/
 
- Can some mod delete the multuple posts? Dont know what hapenned
 
It's an absolute cancer to the United States and a fucking scourge on Christianity as a whole; hardly even Christianity at that as @Fox by the Sea said. Heh, of course I kind of feel that way about all forms of protestantism (and I was raised protestant), but the 1A of the Constitution exists and must be upheld.
Growing up Catholic, studying in a Catholic school in a predominant Catholic country who got colonized by the Spanish empire to spread Catholicism I never knew Protestants can be such a pain in the ass.

I always see Catholicism as this giant over powering institution rooted to much in tradition and empirialism so there is that.
 
Okay, I'll update the poll with the answers you've specified.

For the sake of posterity, you might add an edit to the OP that this was the final count before I changed it:

Do you support American direct military involvement in Iran?
Yes - 13
No-148
Gracias amigo
 
Gracias amigo

Iran is already being attacked on our watch, by our proxy, with our equipment and intelligence.

I think it's too late for this question. It's already missile diplomacy. Whether you do or don't support it is irrelevant at this point, it's happening already and will continue till its done.
 
Iran is already being attacked on our watch, by our proxy, with our equipment and intelligence.

I think it's too late for this question. It's already missile diplomacy. Whether you do or don't support it is irrelevant at this point, it's happening already.
You don’t think it’s important to see if the people of the country support the actions of its leaders?
 
You don’t think it’s important to see if the people of the country support the actions of its leaders?

No actually, most people are selfish and short sighted, especially when you ask them to do something hard. It's not like they actually get a say anyway.
 
Seems like the Iranians are busier creating AI pictures of winning a war than they are actually fighting the real one lol

what? Israel's propaganda arm is in full force. Ive been told here and on social media that Iran is begging for a truce, that their leaders are fleeing Iran, that Iran's entire airforce has been taken out, Iran is attacking only civilians, etc.

When the reality points to Iran launching and hitting Israel just as much as Israel has hit them. I was told Iran was running out of missiles days ago, but the IDF here has said Iran was bombing civilians NINE times, in 24 hours here on their official twitter.

 

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