International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[DoctorTaco]

It’s like asking a fighter what they weigh: if they tell you they’re 173 that means they’re probably closer to 180.

You can probably safely double what ever the IDF reports has landed.

 

[avenue94]

No.

It worked magically and exactly as intended, except for the reveal. It set their program back years. You don't know what you are talking about, but here you are.

Jesus you are dense. It worked as a tactical victory. It failed at stopping Iran from further development and likely encouraged them to invest more. That's why Iran is closer to a nuke today then they were when they were complying with a diplomatic agreement that Trump blew up. These are verifiable facts.

 

[cincymma79]

It’s like asking a fighter what they weigh: if they tell you they’re 173 that means they’re probably closer to 180.

You can probably safely double what ever the IDF reports has landed.

As long as there are few causalities maybe we can leave it at this tit for tat

 

[TeTe]

Maybe instead of using missiles to fire over Israeli air space.. Iran should worry more about surface to air defense to protect their own skies and try to shoot down Israeli planes and drones

 

[b34stmode]

They used up something between like 10% of their viable known stock capable of hitting Israel from within Iran itself in that attack last year that did absolutely nothing, IIRC.

You know this how? And this attack was more robust than the previous. So you are telling me we aren’t even 48H into this and Iran is down 20% of their total ballistic stockpile? I don’t believe that for a second.

 

[cincymma79]

This was mostly peaceful

 

[Rholk]

Seems like the S300 isn't doing to much at this point, good old AAA it is!

 

[SurferH2O]

Jesus you are dense. It worked as a tactical victory. It failed at stopping Iran from further development and likely encouraged them to invest more. That's why Iran is closer to a nuke today then they were when they were complying with a diplomatic agreement that Trump blew up. These are verifiable facts.

Stuxnet stopped Iran from further development by a couple of years. I repeat, it hurt their program by years. You don't know shit about it apparently and don't mind talking out of your ass constantly.

By all measures, Stuxnet was a success.

 

[Madmick]

You know this how? And this attack was more robust than the previous. So you are telling me we aren’t even 48H into this and Iran is down 20% of their total ballistic stockpile? I don’t believe that for a second.

Because Iran itself boasted the number of missiles used, it was over 700 in total, I think over 400 in the initial volley, and military onlookers track things like the known missile stockpiles (including missile types) of nations. It was an estimate I recalled.

Lol there's the classic madmick duck. Just spam concession accepted like a dunce instead of engaging with the point.

You're arguing that the US didn't help Israel attack even though we're literally providing support to knock down any counter attacks...so Israel can keep attacking.

I understand you're cynical and emotional about this, but the "point" was that you had no proof, only your own assumptions by inference.

The US did not abet the last Israeli missile attack in the previous round, but we did help shoot down Iranian missiles fired at Israeli civilian population centers. Helping with defense is not tantamount to helping with offense. You'll struggle with the nuance, but maybe you'll get there, eventually.

 

[avenue94]

Stuxnet stopped Iran from further development by a couple of years. I repeat, it hurt their program by years. You don't know shit about it apparently and don't mind talking out of your ass constantly.

By all measures, Stuxnet was a success.

Holy balls again, the best success the US ever had with delaying Iran's nuclear program was the agreement we pulled out of. Jesus Christ, I know you don't want to admit Trump was wrong there but this is just embarassing by Whippy standards.

 

[aerius]

You know this how? And this attack was more robust than the previous. So you are telling me we aren’t even 48H into this and Iran is down 20% of their total ballistic stockpile? I don’t believe that for a second.

He's probably getting his info from the same idiots who claimed Russia would run out of missiles in 3 months.

 

[avenue94]

The US did not abet the last Israeli missile attack in the previous round, but we did help shoot down Iranian missiles fired at Israeli civilian population centers.

We approved the strike, to pretend otherwise is childish. As is your assumption that apparently Israel did not use previous intelligence we've provided them for this first wave of attacks.

Helping with defense is not tantamount to helping with offense.

Lol what. War isn't separated into offense and defense like football. Us helping defend Israel improves the lethality of their ensuing attacks. That is helping Israel attack, period. You aren't talking nuance, you're talking out of your ass. Not to mention the munitions used yesterday were almost certainly supplied by the US, probably even in the last year or so because Israel expended its stockpile in Gaza.

Again, if this was the US on the receiving end, you'd be howling for blood.

 

[Siver!]

One of the more worrying narratives is that should the Iranian regime make it through this intact, this will force them to hasten their search for nuclear weaponry, at which point it would be open season in the Middle East.

Saudi, Turkey, other wealthy nations will demand their own.

So fucking dumb letting Israel have theirs. That whole region needs demilitarising

 

[Madmick]

No.

It worked magically and exactly as intended, except for the reveal. It set their program back years. You don't know what you are talking about, but here you are.

He's one of those dunces who swore before it was undeniable, "They aren't enriching uranium to those levels! There is no nuclear weapons program!"

LOL.

 

[Corona]

My biggest takeaway from this thread so far is that our mans The XL needs to change his name to The XFL and put this as his av.

 

[SurferH2O]

Holy balls again, the best success the US ever had with delaying Iran's nuclear program was the agreement we pulled out of. Jesus Christ, I know you don't want to admit Trump was wrong there but this is just embarassing by Whippy standards.

^^^ Idiot thinks Stuxnet didn't slow the Iranian Nuclear Weapons program.

 

[b34stmode]

One of the more worrying narratives is that should the Iranian regime make it through this intact, this will force them to hasten their search for nuclear weaponry, at which point it would be open season in the Middle East.

Saudi, Turkey, other wealthy nations will demand their own.

So fucking dumb letting Israel have theirs. That whole region needs demilitarising

yep. Such a bizarre narrative going currently. Trump w supposedly running on “no new wars!” Arms Israel with bunker busters and helps them bomb Tehran. Then make statements that Iran better not retaliate or hit US assets, knowing we have a ton of assets in Israel.

 

[avenue94]

^^^ Idiot thinks Stuxnet didn't slow the Iranian Nuclear Weapons program.

And now you're hallucinating. At least it's friday, maybe you can start drinking early.

 

[avenue94]

He's one of those dunces who swore before it was undeniable, "They aren't enriching uranium to those levels! There is no nuclear weapons program!"

LOL.

Would you like to post an example of me saying this? Like I said, classic madmick, always fleeing and sticking their fingers in their ears when confronted with a point they can't address.

 

[joy2day]

That's a laundry list nearly as long as the government of Israel and the US.

I didn't say they were saints. I said that they wouldn't use nukes against Israel unless they were being invaded.

Saints? They are the #1 terror supporter in the world. How is that hard to understand? They have attacked the US and others numerous times that have never attacked them.

I don't care about how you feel about the US and Israel, or that you are butthurt about Israel, that has nothing to do with what I am talking about with Iran.

Why do you keep repeating the same thing? What I said was, Iran would use the threat of nukes to get away with terror- that's the concern, literally no one is saying that they are going to randomly use them against Israel, is that really hard for you to understand?

I think if the gloves were taken off and Iran didn't have to worry about the US or NATO getting involved, it would be a much closer conflict than you think. I think Israel knows this too, which is why they're always looking for American involvement.

Did you happen to actually read that Israel has a much bigger military? That they spend way more and have way more? Are facts hard for you to swallow? It has nothing to do with what I think.