International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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Being proud of sending your child to go fight and die for politicians is the most cowardly disgusting thing you could do as a parent.

It's different if the enemy is on your doorstep, don't even try that argument.

You and your son will be pawns for old dirty politicians and bankers. Remember that while you're cheering on sending your kid to die for some bs
You are a sad person. Some people take honor in protecting this country regardless of what you think. You think the people that have enlisted in the military think like you?
 
There should be an Appeals Process. If someone thinks they've been Dubbed unfairly, they can take their case to a panel of senior Mods.

Dude we get those requests all the time. And they almost always get brought to the Mod booth where things are discussed. Common procedure, and hearing out someone's case doesnt depend on their political leanings despite what the resident conspiratards with victim complexes want to believe.
 
You are a sad person. Some people take honor in protecting this country regardless of what you think. You think the people that have enlisted in the military think like you?

How did Americans protect this country going into Iraq or Afghanistan?

People like you disgust me. If you think I'm a sad person it's because of people like you who are so easily brainwashed and manipulated to go and fight for politicians.

Like I said before, fighting for your country is completely different than fighting for the military industrial complex, Haliburton, Raytheon, and those oil companies.

Either you're stupid or you have no soul to realize how many lives were destroyed when Bush Cheney and Netanyahu tricked millions of troops to go kill some poor middle easterns and afghans.
 
Dude we get those requests all the time. And they almost always get brought to the Mod booth where things are discussed. Common procedure, and hearing out someone's case doesnt depend on their political leanings despite what the resident conspiratards with victim complexes want to believe.
Can confirm this is how it used to happen way back when I was a mod
 
How did Americans protect this country going into Iraq or Afghanistan?

People like you disgust me. If you think I'm a sad person it's because of people like you who are so easily brainwashed and manipulated to go and fight for politicians.

Like I said before, fighting for your country is completely different than fighting for the military industrial complex, Haliburton, Raytheon, and those oil companies.

Either you're stupid or you have no soul to realize how many lives were destroyed when Bush Cheney and Netanyahu tricked millions of troops to go kill some poor middle easterns and afghans.
Dang you are retarded 😒
 
How did Americans protect this country going into Iraq or Afghanistan?

People like you disgust me. If you think I'm a sad person it's because of people like you who are so easily brainwashed and manipulated to go and fight for politicians.

Like I said before, fighting for your country is completely different than fighting for the military industrial complex, Haliburton, Raytheon, and those oil companies.

Either you're stupid or you have no soul to realize how many lives were destroyed when Bush Cheney and Netanyahu tricked millions of troops to go kill some poor middle easterns and afghans.
And you didn't really answer my first question. Just going off the rails with other shit
 
Dang you are retarded 😒

I'm gonna take a wild guess you or someone you know went to fight for something they believed in and couldn't come to the realization how duped you or they got.

Cognitive dissonance is a mother fucker.

Bush and Cheney thank you for your service. Loser.
 
And you didn't really answer my first question. Just going off the rails with other shit

I did answer it. Clearly you are too dumb to understand what my point was.

If you enlisted in the military and went to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan, you went to fight for rich elites, Haliburton, bankers, military industrial complex, oil companies.

You did nothing to protect your country.
 
You are a sad person. Some people take honor in protecting this country regardless of what you think. You think the people that have enlisted in the military think like you?

I absolutely do think it is an honourable instinct to want to both serve and protect one's country.

Unfortunately, if I do a quick scan through various US conflicts/invasions of other countries from the 1960s onwards:

Vietnam
Grenada
Panama
Iraq (2003)

it is very difficult- pretty much impossible, really- to argue any of the above were in response to any kind of threat to the USA or its citizens, IE were done in the interests of 'protecting' them.

so you have to ask the question, what are they protecting?

So, again unfortunately, those in service in the Armed Forces end up defending not the territorial integrity of the United States- which hasn't been invaded in over 200 years- or the lives of its citizens, but US 'National Interests' however defined by the administration of the day.

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I'm gonna take a wild guess you or someone you know went to fight for something they believed in and couldn't come to the realization how duped you or they got.

Cognitive dissonance is a mother fucker.

Bush and Cheney thank you for your service. Loser.
Are you sick? You called out a father who was in the military. You called him out because his son is in the military. You are a sick person. Please look at yourself. Pathetic. And answer my original question before spewing shit
 
You are a sad person. Some people take honor in protecting this country regardless of what you think. You think the people that have enlisted in the military think like you?

His position is coming from the idea that our Military isnt REALLY a force of protection. Half the "threats of terr" were born from our own Imperialist foreign policy. Wealthy people draft dodged all the time when we had one, Trump did as well. Working class people are undereducated, especially since Reagan and school debt exploded, and the Military SEEMS attractive because it sells access to socialism. Free health care, free College, free occupational training, just be a slave to political heirarchy for a few years. And its currently being run by one of the least qualified buffoons to ever run it.

And then there's sh*t that goes on in there once you're in that doesnt get brought to light, and no one gives a sh*t about the feedback of veterand anyway, veterans we dismiss once they're done serving like once glorious athletes who fans dont cheer for anymore. Only now even their education and training doesnt help because they also have PTSD to contend with, and a Government willing to cut their support funding so Eloy can get more welfare.

Bye the way where is DOGE in all this? I mean let's ignore the fact that millions of our tax dollars just exploded into nothingness with that SpaceX rocket, but why isnt DOGE auditing this Israel support spending. $3.8b in tax dollars per year going to Israel...a Country with Universal health care and affordable access to higher education for citizens, when we are constantly told here that we cant afford that for our own children?

I don't think there's anything more miserable than behaving like this is ok.
 
Are you sick? You called a father who was in the military. You called him out because his son is in the military. You are a sick person. Please look at yourself. Pathetic. And answer my original question before spewing shit

I called him out because he'd be proud if his son went to Iran to go fight. That's what he said.

Know what you're talking about before you get butthurt with the truth.

Tell me the last war that American troops fought to actually protect their country?

I'll wait.
 
His position is coming from the idea that our Military isnt REALLY a force of protection. Half the "threats of terr" were born from our own Imperialist foreign policy. Wealthy people draft dodged all the time when we had one, Trump did as well. Working class people are undereducated, especially since Reagan and school debt exploded, and the Military SEEMS attractive because it sells access to socialism. Free health care, free College, free occupational training, just be a slave to political heirarchy for a few years. And its currently being run by one of the least qualified buffoons to ever run it.

And then there's sh*t that goes on in there once you're in that doesnt get brought to light, and no one gives a sh*t about the feedback of veterand anyway, veterans we dismiss once they're done serving like once glorious athletes who fans dont cheer for anymore. Only now even their education and training doesnt help because they also have PTSD to contend with, and a Government willing to cut their support funding so Eloy can get more welfare.

Bye the way where is DOGE in all this? I mean let's ignore the fact that millions of our tax dollars just exploded into nothingness with that SpaceX rocket, but why isnt DOGE auditing this Israel support spending. $3.8b in tax dollars per year going to Israel...a Country with Universal health care and affordable access to higher education for citizens, when we are constantly told here that we cant afford that for our own children?

I don't think there's anything more miserable than behaving like this is ok.
I'm not reading all this but do you think people that serve the military do it for fun? Do they care about protecting the country? Yes or no. Simple
 
His position is coming from the idea that our Military isnt REALLY a force of protection. Half the "threats of terr" were born from our own Imperialist foreign policy. Wealthy people draft dodged all the time when we had one, Trump did as well. Working class people are undereducated, especially since Reagan and school debt exploded, and the Military SEEMS attractive because it sells access to socialism. Free health care, free College, free occupational training, just be a slave to political heirarchy for a few years. And its currently being run by one of the least qualified buffoons to ever run it.

And then there's sh*t that goes on in there once you're in that doesnt get brought to light, and no one gives a sh*t about the feedback of veterand anyway, veterans we dismiss once they're done serving like once glorious athletes who fans dont cheer for anymore. Only now even their education and training doesnt help because they also have PTSD to contend with, and a Government willing to cut their support funding so Eloy can get more welfare.

Bye the way where is DOGE in all this? I mean let's ignore the fact that millions of our tax dollars just exploded into nothingness with that SpaceX rocket, but why isnt DOGE auditing this Israel support spending. $3.8b in tax dollars per year going to Israel...a Country with Universal health care and affordable access to higher education for citizens, when we are constantly told here that we cant afford that for our own children?

I don't think there's anything more miserable than behaving like this is ok.

There will always be people like him who cannot confront the truth. They are too brainwashed to have introspection about what really is going on.
 
It's difficult for me to see a path to actual peace in the region where the Iranian regime continues to arm and train the B-side in every conflict in the region. Their open support to Russia in Ukraine is also like Gaza x1000. The amount of damage and death they've caused with their drone program is obscene.
“They support Russia so they must be stopped”

Let’s cross off every other regime that does that. Oh wait! Israel also supports Russia too!!!!


Israel also supports Azerbaijani’s conquest of Naborno-Karabakh.
 
I'm not reading all this but do you think people that serve the military do it for fun? Do they care about protecting the country? Yes or no. Simple

Im NoT rEaDiNg ThIs
 
I'm not reading all this but do you think people that serve the military do it for fun? Do they care about protecting the country? Yes or no. Simple

That's a stupid question. People have all kinds of motivations.

Some do it because their life is shit.
Some do it for the career opportunities and job advancements.
Some do it for the free education or benefits.
Some do it because they want to blow shit up and have fun and travel.

Some do it to protect their country.

When was the last war that American troops protected their country?
 
I'm not reading all this but do you think people that serve the military do it for fun? Do they care about protecting the country? Yes or no. Simple
I know people who went into various branches of the military for entirely other reasons.

One wanted to be a pilot and thought the air force was a good start.

One was really into nuclear physics and wanted to work on a nuclear sub and get the education for working in the field later.

A few saw it as a way to pay for college.
 
I called him out because he'd be proud if his son went to Iran to go fight. That's what he said.

Know what you're talking about before you get butthurt with the truth.

Tell me the last war that American troops fought to actually protect their country?

I'll wait.
I know what I'm taking about. You are unhinged. So you really think we sending ground troops in? Dang you are really stupid. Also you are a bum calling out someone that served our country and if his son does get brought into action in a capacity and trying to say that person is a bad dad? Everyone makes choices in life friend.
 
I know this is not serious but everybody thinks it's different when they do it and that they are the good guys.
There are no good guys. Some guys are just so bad that others look good in comparison.
 
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