International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

[kflo]

They stopped allowance for inspection because Trump pulled out of the deal in 2018 and put heavier sanctions against them.

Yeah derp. That’s why they found them at 60% a month ago.

 

[Deorum]

 

[Revolver]

Just saw the video where Cucker destroyed Cruz. Lmao

 

[Hog-train]

Yeah derp. That’s why they found them at 60% a month ago.

Why the hell would Iran allow inspections when they still have heavy sanctions against them and there's no longer any agreement to have them?

The entire point of allowing inspections is that they get sanction relief.

 

[SKYNET]

People on both sides will just spew their talking points. As much as people don't want to get involved.... They seem to want more to praise or blame someone for the outcome.

If you look at it through the political lens, then you have a point, we've been conditioned that way as of late. However I think people are waking up to the the proper alignment which begins and ends amongst class lines. 90/10 are unstoppable odds in any brand of warfare.

 

[Rational Poster]

Designing and manufacturing a nuclear weapon is not the same thing as enriching uranium to 60%. Everybody already knew Iran had enriched uranium.

Yea they enriched it to 60% as a bargaining tool only after the Natanz nuclear facility was attacked on 04/11/21. Not only was their commercial nuclear facility sabotaged in 2021, they've been facing heavier sanctions since Trump pulled out of the deal in 2018. They only enriched to 60% so they could use it as a bargaining tool to ease sanctions.

1. You need uranium to be enriched to 90% for it to be weapons capable.
2. Iran does not have any delivery method or warhead to even do a nuclear strike.
3. Iran is not working on any technology to weaponize uranium for a weapon nor is it clear they have the advanced technical ability to do so. They're literally years away if they actually tried.

You want to desperately frame it as "OMG they're on the precipice of a nuclear weapon!!"

When that is obviously not true.

And you know that as well. Stop lying. You're not a stupid person. You're just on the pro-Israeli side so you're just making excuses for an unjustified attack.

You want to purposefully simplify it "they have enriched uranium to 60% so they're gonna get nukes!!" relying on people not knowing anything or any of the details.

No one believes this gaslighting bullshit. This isn't the early 2000's when they successfulyy lied about Iraq WMD's. Most of the world knows it's BS - even a huge chunk of Trump's MAGA base.



And how long does it take for Iran to design and manufacture a warhead and delivery method that can deliver a nuclear explosion?

So they broke nuclear proliferation treaties as a bargaining tool, that's your story?

Don't you think a better bargaining tool would be to not demonstrate the ability to enrich weapons grade uranium?

 

[cottagecheesefan]

He showed a voice log from someone.

Then, Gov. Newsom showed this.





I'm going to hazard a guess that one of them isn't being truthful.

What did he show there?

 

[Osculater]

Can you guys quit talking about Future President Newscum in here?

 

[Hog-train]

So they broke nuclear proliferation treaties as a bargaining tool, that's your story?

Don't you think a better bargaining tool would be to not demonstrate the ability to enrich weapons grade uranium?

Trump was the one who pulled out of the JCPOA which Iran was abiding by. And then re-imposed and expanded heavy sanctions on Iran. All because of heavy political pressure by Israel.

In response to that, you want Iran to STILL abide by the agreement?

What kind of clown logic is that? Then they would have zero leverage to get rid of the sanctions.

 

[avenue94]

Let's all take a breath and game this out...

1. Iran gets a nuke
2. Iran nukes Israel
3. The U.S. turns Iran into a radioactive wasteland.

This is KNOWN. There's NO WAY that Iran would put a fully loaded gun to their own head and squeeze the trigger.

It just doesn't make sense.

The amount of bad faith arguments based on the notion that Iran's corrupt rulers murdered Iranians and stole money all these years just so they can throw it all away is facepalme inducing.

Evil doesn't mean suicidal or stupid necessarily. Nor does it mean illogical.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

How many “years” away is 60% enriched uranium?

As many years away as it was for Iraq to get a nuclear weapon.

I guess they are as long away as justifies going to war with them, according to you.

 

[kflo]

Trump was the one who pulled out of the JCPOA which Iran was abiding by. And then re-imposed and expanded heavy sanctions on Iran. All because of heavy political pressure by Israel.

In response to that, you want Iran to STILL abide by the agreement?

What kind of clown logic is that? Then they have zero leverage to get rid of the sanctions.

lol.

The leverage they have to get rid of sanctions might be to stop sponsoring terrorism across the region? Could that work?

A great way to get leverage would surely be to enhance uranium to weapons grade…..that was definitely the right strategy……

 

[kflo]

As many years away as it was for Iraq to get a nuclear weapon.

I guess they are as long away as justifies going to war with them, according to you.

So you are going to just lie too? I guess do you bro.

Did Iraq have near weapons grade uranium?

 

[Rational Poster]

Trump was the one who pulled out of the JCPOA which Iran was abiding by. And then re-imposed and expanded heavy sanctions on Iran. All because of heavy political pressure by Israel.

In response to that, you want Iran to STILL abide by the agreement?

What kind of clown logic is that? Then they have zero leverage to get rid of the sanctions.

I don't deny Trump has a major roll in exacerbating things, but the JCPOA is not the only treaty regarding nuclear weapons they are beholden to. They signed the NPT, they are a member of the IEAE.

What kind of clown logic is this?

In order to remove sanctions Iran started to do the thing the sanctioning countries did not want them to do. lmao

 

[Cherry Brigand]

Here's a great summation from Al Jazeera.

Is Iran ‘very close’ to building a nuclear bomb as Trump claims?

The US president’s own intelligence chief and the IAEA don’t think Iran is building nuclear weapons at all.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[DW=HERO]

The amount of nuclear weapons technology experts in this thread is staggering.

 

[avenue94]

Haha. Dude. It takes DAYS to go from 60% to weapons grade 90%. They are no longer allowing inspections. They committed to more sites. And you are here trying to gaslight that they just stopped at 60%. It’s fuckin sad.

How heavy do you think this warhead would be? And what would its delivery system be?

 

[Spounman]

 

[avenue94]

So they broke nuclear proliferation treaties as a bargaining tool, that's your story?

Don't you think a better bargaining tool would be to not demonstrate the ability to enrich weapons grade uranium?

So they're in the same boat as Israel?

It's kind of hard to tell an adversarial country to not develop nukes when you are OK with their opponent having them and also attacking them in the first place.

 

[Rational Poster]

Here's a great summation from Al Jazeera.

Is Iran ‘very close’ to building a nuclear bomb as Trump claims?

The US president’s own intelligence chief and the IAEA don’t think Iran is building nuclear weapons at all.

www.aljazeera.com

Yes very interesting when you read the whole thing.

Addressing the UN watchdog’s Board of Governors on June 9, IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi said Iran had accumulated 400kg (880lb) of uranium enriched to 60 percent.

“While safeguarded enrichment activities are not forbidden in and of themselves, the fact that Iran is the only non-nuclear-weapon State in the world that is producing and accumulating uranium enriched to 60 percent remains a matter of serious concern,” he said in a report to the Board of Governors.

On Thursday, a day before Israel’s attacks on Iran’s nuclear facilities, the IAEA board passed a resolution censuring Tehran and accusing it of violating its safeguards-related commitments to the UN agency.

But in an interview with CNN on Tuesday, Grossi was emphatic that Iran’s alleged violations of its assurances had not led his agency to conclude that Tehran was building bombs.

“We did not have any proof of a systematic effort to move into a nuclear weapon,” he said.