International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

Choose the following that best describes your position

  • I do not support Israel attacking Iran

    Votes: 223 61.6%

  • I support Israel attacking Iran, but do not support America becoming directly involved.

    Votes: 93 25.7%

  • I’m for America directly involving itself in the conflict.

    Votes: 46 12.7%
  • Total voters
    362
  • Poll closed .
AWilder said:
Just saw a headline that Iran has shot down 3 F-35s. That's not a good sign. China already stole the data for the f35 but this means Iran might have learned from it too
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Can you post where you saw that?

Yesterday, there was that ridiculous photo that went viral of the AI generated F35 that was downed
 
So, they will just lob things that go boom until one side runs out?

In regards to having nukes, has anyone simply bought one from another country in the past? For instance, I doubt North Korea has the know-how to build one, did they simply buy their nukes from Pakistan?
 
b34stmode said:
It was a bit, and I assumed from your post and username, lol. Apologies.

But what is Israels end goal here? I can't for the life of me figure it out.

1. They will not do a ground invasion for regime change.
2.Organic regime change seems almost impossible when its Israel killing Iranians.
3.Tit for tat bombing til Iran runs out? What if they have stockpiles that can last as long as Israel?
4. Destroying nuclear facilities, OK. Iran can just rebuild these, and will.

So whats the end goal here? It's a bit baffling.
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I don’t know either.

Probably a mix of 3 and 4.. from what I gathered Israel has been surprised a bit by some of Iran’s successful response with missiles.. also, Israel made it sound like they thought Iran was a lot closer to nuclear weapons than they (Iran) led on.. they were literally targeting scientists initially.

Rebuilding will of course happen, but at least this delays the process I guess.

I’m not going to solve this conflict.. it’s been going on my entire life and will probably never end.
 
b34stmode said:
It was a bit, and I assumed from your post and username, lol. Apologies.

But what is Israels end goal here? I can't for the life of me figure it out.

1. They will not do a ground invasion for regime change.
2.Organic regime change seems almost impossible when its Israel killing Iranians.
3.Tit for tat bombing til Iran runs out? What if they have stockpiles that can last as long as Israel?
4. Destroying nuclear facilities, OK. Iran can just rebuild these, and will.

So whats the end goal here? It's a bit baffling.
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This is on Trump for pulling out of the agreement with Iran. Israel was watching Iran's nuclear enrichment program ramp up and since Trump is a feckless man baby they had to take care of it. This is Trump's world.
 
b34stmode said:
If you are American why in the fuck would you want us to get involved?

Like Graham, a complete warmonger that has zero interest in protecting US soldiers. Disgusting behavior.

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“Senator Lindsey Graham Declares War From Recliner, Offers Emotional Support to People Actually Fighting”

Washington, D.C. – In a bold move from the comfort of his office, Senator Lindsey Graham has volunteered absolutely no personal risk in supporting military action overseas.
“We must help Israel finish the job,” said Graham, despite unclear job description, undefined timeline, and no personal involvement.

🎖️ When asked if he or his colleagues would lead the charge:
Graham replied, “Absolutely not. That’s what brave young people with fewer options are for.”
 
Siver! said:
BBC report the mood has changed in Israel as they realise the iron dome is not impregnable.

War is a very different prospect when you realise YOU can die, and it's not just watching Muslims burning on a screen, so let's see how reality alters perceptions there.
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Siver being among Sherdog's foremost experts of altered reality of course... ;)
 
You are the worst kind of far left in the UK

Absolute corbonite jew hating scum

And then gaslighting being a good person caring abut people dying. But only certain people

A very racist troglodyte

Siver! said:
Israel brags about air superiority and that they can pick and choose any target now...

... as reports come in about them hitting a hospital and a fire department.

That's Israel.
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SuperAlly said:
You are the worst kind of far left in the UK

Absolute corbonite jew hating scum

And then gaslighting being a good person caring abut people dying. But only certain people

A very racist troglodyte
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Why does it make him Jew hating to highlight that Israel has indeed bombed an Iranian hospital?
 
KBE6EKCTAH_CCP said:
It’s very difficult to foresee outcomes here but it would appear that:
A) Israel underestimated the potency of Iranian ballistic missiles
B) Iran has no response to Israeli fighter jets

I think both statements can cohabit. This would imply that Israel will continue destroying pretty much all launching sites in Iran. Then they will stop.
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B) is questionable. A lot of the damage I'm seeing in Iran is not consistent with missiles or bombs from fighter jets. Air dropped bombs will flatten anything that isn't a heavily reinforced concrete building, same with most air to ground missiles. The damage I'm seeing in Iran is mostly fire damage and small explosions, it looks a lot more like what you'd see from drones & improvised explosives from Israeli sabotage teams. I've only seen a few hits AFTER day one that look like they came from air strikes.

The other problem is ops tempo for the Israeli air force, they're not the USAF with its unlimited planes, service technicians, and spare parts, all tucked away in secure areas which will never be hit. The IAF has a bit over 200 planes total and all of them are on airfields which are getting whacked with missiles. There's only so many sorties they can fly before a bunch of planes get grounded for maintenance & repair, and with everything under attack they're going to start losing pilots, planes, and service techs to exhaustion, mistakes, and enemy action. The sustained sortie rate of the IAF will drop significantly from the initial surge even if the airfields aren't completely taken out.

The longer it goes on the more it favours Iran even if the US steps in. The mass drone swarms haven't even started yet and Iran has more of those than I care to count. Iran has also just started hitting Israel's infrastructure, should they choose to wreck the rest of it like they did to Haifa then Israel will be effectively de-powered and de-industrialized with no source of fresh water. Once that happens they'll just have to sit there and eat drone strikes until they cry uncle or leave.
 
Why did you said:
“Senator Lindsey Graham Declares War From Recliner, Offers Emotional Support to People Actually Fighting”

Washington, D.C. – In a bold move from the comfort of his office, Senator Lindsey Graham has volunteered absolutely no personal risk in supporting military action overseas.
“We must help Israel finish the job,” said Graham, despite unclear job description, undefined timeline, and no personal involvement.

🎖️ When asked if he or his colleagues would lead the charge:
Graham replied, “Absolutely not. That’s what brave young people with fewer options are for.”
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You know what’s crazy is it’s impossible to tell if this is satire or real when referencing Graham saying it. This is something that for sure could come out of his dumbass mouth.
 
aerius said:
B) is questionable. A lot of the damage I'm seeing in Iran is not consistent with missiles or bombs from fighter jets. Air dropped bombs will flatten anything that isn't a heavily reinforced concrete building, same with most air to ground missiles. The damage I'm seeing in Iran is mostly fire damage and small explosions, it looks a lot more like what you'd see from drones & improvised explosives from Israeli sabotage teams. I've only seen a few hits AFTER day one that look like they came from air strikes.

The other problem is ops tempo for the Israeli air force, they're not the USAF with its unlimited planes, service technicians, and spare parts, all tucked away in secure areas which will never be hit. The IAF has a bit over 200 planes total and all of them are on airfields which are getting whacked with missiles. There's only so many sorties they can fly before a bunch of planes get grounded for maintenance & repair, and with everything under attack they're going to start losing pilots, planes, and service techs to exhaustion, mistakes, and enemy action. The sustained sortie rate of the IAF will drop significantly from the initial surge even if the airfields aren't completely taken out.

The longer it goes on the more it favours Iran even if the US steps in. The mass drone swarms haven't even started yet and Iran has more of those than I care to count. Iran has also just started hitting Israel's infrastructure, should they choose to wreck the rest of it like they did to Haifa then Israel will be effectively de-powered and de-industrialized with no source of fresh water. Once that happens they'll just have to sit there and eat drone strikes until they cry uncle or leave.
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This post is good. We have almost zero video evidence of any aircraft sorties bombing Iran. We have zero videos of Israel taking out airfields/aircraft of Iran. We know if they had video evidence, they would plaster it all over the internet. This leads me to believe for now there is very little fighter jet usage from either side. Yet, you have countless lemmings posting on social media that Iran is almost done for, they have zero aircraft, Israel is flying sorties over Iran unimpeded, Iran is almost out of missiles, etc. the amount of straight bullshit being posted is brain rot in its purest form.
 
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