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What? I wasn’t joking. Trump gave them the green light

Israel losing? lol no. Iran obviously doing more than Hamas could ever dream of, but Israel has way more sophisticated ranged weaponry and an unlimited amount since the US will fill their armories back up. I don’t see headlines of high ranking Israeli generals and intelligence getting killed like I do of the notable Iran casualties.

I mean, at the end of the day you have to put the responsibility of the war on the actual person who started it, Netanyahu. Israel started the war, not Trump.

I'm not saying Iran will win but Israel obviously underestimated the response. I honestly don't know what is going to happen. Israel has done enough shit at this point that I have no sympathy for whatever happens to them. I don't think we should even support them
 
What? I wasn’t joking. Trump gave them the green light

Israel losing? lol no. Iran obviously doing more than Hamas could ever dream of, but Israel has way more sophisticated ranged weaponry and an unlimited amount since the US will fill their armories back up. I don’t see headlines of high ranking Israeli generals and intelligence getting killed like I do of the notable Iran casualties.
- Isreal has US backing up. Moma US would back up Israel if Russia or China entered the battle? Obviously no!
 
- Isreal has US backing up. Moma US would back up Israel if Russia or China entered the battle? Obviously no!

So you thing the US would just stand by and watch Russia or China enter the battle as you say to destroy Israel. They both know that's something they want no part of.
 

‘There’s a smell of death in the air’: chaos in Tehran as residents try to flee or find shelter​

Ferocity of Israeli strikes has taken many by surprise, with people rushing to buy petrol and food amid the bombs

Deepa Parent, Shah Meer Baloch and William Christou

It was just past 4pm when Nahid’s* windows began to shake. An Israeli bomb hit a building nearby – she could not see where – and soon her house began to fill up with smoke. It was the third day of Israeli bombing of Iran and the situation in Tehran was just getting worse.

“This is a massacre. The blasts haven’t stopped. Children are crying and we fear many civilians have been killed. There’s a smell of death in the air. I can’t stop crying,” Nahid*, a 25-year-old finance analyst at an e-commerce company in Tehran, told the Guardian via text.

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A man carries a wounded child after an Israeli airstrike in central Tehran on Sunday. Photograph: Abedin Taherkenareh/EPA

Residents began to flee Tehran and head towards the countryside on Sunday as Israeli attacks on the Iranian capital escalated, with bombs raining down on residential and government buildings alike. Authorities gave no official death toll, but at least 138 people have been killed and hundreds wounded by strikes on Iran since Friday.

The bombing started early on Friday morning when Israel launched hundreds of strikes in what it said was an operation aimed at preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Iran quickly responded with a barrage of ballistic missiles and has continued to hit Israel, killing 10 people, including three children, in strikes on residential buildings on Saturday night.


As the conflict continued to escalate, Iranian authorities announced they would open Tehran’s metro stations and schools to use as shelters.

“Unfortunately, we in Tehran and in other cities do not have shelters,” said Mehdi Chamran, the chair of the city council, as he urged civilians to use tunnels and basements as makeshift bomb shelters.

The ferocity of the Israeli assault caught Iran’s citizens and government by surprise, as Israel’s jets flew with virtual freedom over Iranian skies. While Iranian missiles flew towards Israel, its military seemed incapable of stopping Israeli attacks.

“We are not confident mosques, schools or metro stations will be safe. What if we get buried under? My sisters and I are going to urge my parents and neighbours to leave home,” Nahid said.

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Injured people are assisted in the street after an explosion in central Tehran. Photograph: Amir Kholousi/AP

There were scenes of chaos on Tehran’s streets as residents rushed to buy food amid bombings before shops shut.

“People are running around in the streets and screaming. It’s extremely dangerous to step outside now but we don’t have an option,” said Reza*, a student at the University of Tehran. The 21-year-old described long lines at petrol stations as he and others filled their cars before making the journey out of the city.

While residents queued for fuel, or for cash at ATMs, a sense of panic began to spread as the strikes were joined by car-bombings, reportedly targeting Iranian nuclear scientists. People struggled to contact their loved ones as Iran’s mobile phone network failed, giving only sporadic coverage.

Experts said Israel’s attack had come at a critical point for the Iranian government, which has been rocked by protests in recent years and by a deepening economic crisis.

“This war comes at a most acute situation domestically, because we have the gravest economic crisis for decades,” said Dr Ali Fathollah-Nejad, the founder and director of the Center for Middle East and Global Order.

Prices of food and other essential goods have rocketed over the past year as the Iran’s currency, the rial, rapidly depreciated. Trump quickly signed an executive order after retaking office in January that tightened sanctions against Iran, choking off oil exports from the already beleaguered economy.

Fathollah-Nejad said the economic crisis had been one of the key factors alongside military pressure that pushed the Iranian government towards diplomacy with the US, with which it had been negotiating over its nuclear programme for the past couple of months.

Iranians took to social media to mock the government’s lack of preparedness, sharing videos of top military officials saying Israel would never dare to attack Iran. Officials had previously trumpeted Iran’s ability to deter strikes through its fierce military capabilities.

Within Iran, state TV replayed footage of Iranian strikes on Israel and played down the impact of Israeli attacks. The feeling of being under attack has prompted a sense of unity among some Iranians.

“We have been hearing the rumours of regime change, especially by the Israelis and Americans. It seems more like a joke,” said Hadi*, a Tehran resident in his 60s.

He added that among his friends, those who were initially against Iran developing nuclear weapons now felt the country needed an atomic arsenal to defend itself from Israel.

“Many Iranians may criticise the government and object to the strategies, but history has proven that Iranians unite when attacked by a foreign country,” Hadi said.

* Some names have been changed
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...hran-as-residents-try-to-flee-or-find-shelter
 
So you thing the US would just stand by and watch Russia or China enter the battle as you say to destroy Israel. They both know that's something they want no part of.
- China has a lot of fisherman. That's was enough for Vietnan.
 
It’s very difficult to foresee outcomes here but it would appear that:
A) Israel underestimated the potency of Iranian ballistic missiles
B) Iran has no response to Israeli fighter jets

I think both statements can cohabit. This would imply that Israel will continue destroying pretty much all launching sites in Iran. Then they will stop.
 
- China has a lot of fisherman. That's was enough for Vietnan.

This is not Vietnam and would not be a "police action."

Let's say China does this an pissed off Trump. So he bans all Chinese materials and products from the US and sends a shot losd of weapons to Israel just for a start. How does that work out for them
 
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It’s very difficult to foresee outcomes here but it would appear that:
A) Israel underestimated the potency of Iranian ballistic missiles
B) Iran has no response to Israeli fighter jets

I think both statements can cohabit. This would imply that Israel will continue destroying pretty much all launching sites in Iran. Then they will stop.

Both statements are true.

However, a lot of launch sites are deep underground so Israel can't get to them. Only the US could.

Also, some mobile launchers are mounted on camouflaged semi-trailers, and these platforms are moved frequently to avoid detection. Some remain concealed in urban or remote areas, while others are dispersed during emergencies. Underground launchers were inspired by North Korea and al-Qaeda infrastructure.

Iran has built vast subterranean complexes that allow for full missile operations - transport, loading, fueling, and launching - all beneath the surface until the final moment of deployment.

Iran has publicly showcased some of these underground facilities before to deter potential attacks by Israel or Gulf states.
 
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Both statements are true.

However, a lot of launch sites are deep underground so Israel can't get to them. Only the US could.

Based on us military/air asset movements in the region, it sounds like this could be coming soon..
 
Both statements are true.

However, a lot of launch sites are deep underground so Israel can't get to them. Only the US could.

Also, mobile launchers are mounted on camouflaged semi-trailers, and these platforms are moved frequently to avoid detection. Some remain concealed in urban or remote areas, while others are dispersed during emergencies. Underground launchers were inspired by North Korea and al-Qaeda infrastructure.

Iran has built vast subterranean complexes that allow for full missile operations - transport, loading, fueling, and launching - all beneath the surface until the final moment of deployment.

Iran has publicly showcased some of these underground facilities before to deter potential attacks by Israel or Gulf states.
That s interesting I didn t know that. This means essentially that Israel will have to keep on destroying Iran into submission, as I assume that Israeli jets can destroy Iran faster than Iranian ballistic missiles can destroy Israel. Sad part is that both parties are likely willing to go pretty far in the mutual destruction avenue.
 
If you are American why in the fuck would you want us to get involved?

Like Graham, a complete warmonger that has zero interest in protecting US soldiers. Disgusting behavior.


Repugnant as usual. « Hey submit to my friend who started bombing you. You don’t want? Ok fine I offered you peace, now die »
 
If you are American why in the fuck would you want us to get involved?

Like Graham, a complete warmonger that has zero interest in protecting US soldiers. Disgusting behavior.



I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question, because I never said I wanted to be involved in Israel's war.

I don't have access to intelligence though.. obviously the Israelis think they are a lot closer to nuclear weapons than US intelligence.
 
Just saw a headline that Iran has shot down 3 F-35s. That's not a good sign. China already stole the data for the f35 but this means Iran might have learned from it too
 
Also ironic how the magatards are saying this isn't Trump's war but blame Biden for the Ukraine Russian war. No new wars right? Lmao
 
Just saw a headline that Iran has shot down 3 F-35s. That's not a good sign. China already stole the data for the f35 but this means Iran might have learned from it too
I thought F35s were unshootdownable?
 
I mean, at the end of the day you have to put the responsibility of the war on the actual person who started it, Netanyahu. Israel started the war, not Trump.

I'm not saying Iran will win but Israel obviously underestimated the response. I honestly don't know what is going to happen. Israel has done enough shit at this point that I have no sympathy for whatever happens to them. I don't think we should even support them
Wud thu… Israel has carte Blanche in the skies and are doing whatever the hell they want including pinpointing targeting BM cruise launchers…..

Go check out the stock market or crypto…the markets tend to know well ahead of anyone else this will end soon enough and not in favor of Iran
 
Also ironic how the magatards are saying this isn't Trump's war but blame Biden for the Ukraine Russian war. No new wars right? Lmao
Dude come on. Israel has gone full bloodthirsty since October of last year. Not sure Trump has anything to do with this. Not everything in life is a USA partisan issue. The Dems are huge Israeli cucks as well and I don’t think it would have changed anything.
 

On the fourth day of the conflict, the Israeli military said it had destroyed more than 120 surface-to-surface missile launchers in central Iran, a third of Iran's total. It also said fighter jets had struck 10 command centers in Tehran belonging to Iran’s Quds Force, an elite arm of its Revolutionary Guard that conducts military and intelligence operations outside Iran.
 
I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question, because I never said I wanted to be involved in Israel's war.

I don't have access to intelligence though.. obviously the Israelis think they are a lot closer to nuclear weapons than US intelligence.

It was a bit, and I assumed from your post and username, lol. Apologies.

But what is Israels end goal here? I can't for the life of me figure it out.

1. They will not do a ground invasion for regime change.
2.Organic regime change seems almost impossible when its Israel killing Iranians.
3.Tit for tat bombing til Iran runs out? What if they have stockpiles that can last as long as Israel?
4. Destroying nuclear facilities, OK. Iran can just rebuild these, and will.

So whats the end goal here? It's a bit baffling.
 
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