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As individual players yes, there are hundreds of players from outside of Europe and South America currently playing in the big 5 ie Prem, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue 1. But for some reason you're referencing individual fighters doing well in MMA then comparing it to entire national teams in soccer when its obvious apples to oranges.
Not to mention at this point the UFCs roster is so bloated due to the quantity of cards and wanting to break international markets that they've signed a decent percentage of the entire global pro MMA talent pool. A lot of the guys that they sign from outside the traditional MMA heartlands are the best of a domestic talent pool of maybe a few dozen people at their weight class.
Ok, now imagine that MMA used some kind of team format (old M1 challenge style) so that Poland, Australia, Mexico, Nigeria etc had to field an entire teams worth of fighters to compete with Team USA, Team Russia and Team Brazil in a series. How do you think that would go?
Its odd that you call that football when you throw the ball to pass.... Or that Americans think you have a monopoly on a word 5 billion other people agree means something else
Golf a retired man's hobby.
Fair point on national teams vs individuals.
I still think MMA has more varied, high level success in terms of individual.
Again, there's what like a handful of asian soccer players in the EPL that were even decent?
There's black athletes, but not many...and only some are from Africa, some are French-Africa, or whatever. But good point.
Our economy, miltary might, and cultural influence trumps what 5 billion pissants think that a word means. It’s crazy that we accomplished this in only 245 years. Soccer is cute, and I watched my son play the game and obsess over European clubs, but it’s a low stakes game that manlet betas can excel at. We love American Football bc it’s large, superhuman specimens slamming into eachother and there’s nothing like it anywhere else in the world. Stay salty, my friend.
And homosexualsNo, it's nothing but skinhead white guys, watched by people who are also skinhead white guys...
You've never heard of Rugby have you?
Soccer
Yeah cool sport. American footballers at their largest are still much bigger and more athletic. If Rugby could afford them, an average NFL runningback or linebacker would fucking dominate that sport.
You're close, the UK takes the 3rd spot, but Japan is number 4.In Boxing, In order of total legit world titles in history. US, Mexico, and…..Japan.
Other countries are not even close.
But I thought all Muay Thai guys had shit hands according to Sherdog lolYou're close, the UK takes the 3rd spot, but Japan is number 4.
Uh, I think you're responding to the wrong guy?But I thought all Muay Thai guys had shit hands according to Sherdog lol
I was making a sarcastic response given how many former MT guys have become boxing champs (your chart). That's all.Uh, I think you're responding to the wrong guy?
Totally agree. Basically the people who like soccer are parroting that it's some universal, global, multi-cultural haven.
And it is global and huge for sure. But as you said, name the last time a non-Euro or non Agentina/Brazil won the world cup? Where as I just listed how diverse culturally, genetically, nationally - MMA is at even champion levels or high levels. Soccer is not that.
World Cup winners recent to oldest in order:
France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Brazil, France, Brazil, "West Germany", Argentina, Italy, Argentina, West Germany, Brazil, England.
That's from 1966 to 2018. Italy just won the Euro recently too and they played England in the final. But the soccer guys pretend like Japan/Korea/Africa and tons of other countries (US, Canada, Mexico even) are competitive and love soccer. Yeah they play it because it costs nothing and it is admittedly huge, but the they are credibly "competing" at the highest levels.
Where as to quickly show MMA in the current day:
HW = Black French-African (Cameroon) Champ
LHW = Polish
MW = New Zealand by way of Nigeria
WW = Nebraska, Nigerian born
LW = Brazilian (was just a Russian-Dagestani)
FW = Aussie
BW = Russian (or black American if we count Sterling lol)
FW = Mexican
Women's recently = Brazilian, Chinese, American, Russian/South American