Islam is the only fighter to get the "he beat a smaller guy" narrative.

[MrBlackheart]

It's very odd that I hear the "he beat a FW" again and again. I wouldn't mind it if other fighters got the same treatment.

-when GSP beat BJ Penn, I don't hear "he beat a LW"
-when Jan beat Izzy, I don't hear the "he beat a MW"
-when Stipe beat DC, I don't hear the "he beat a LHW"
-when Poirier beat Max (2nd fight), I don't hear "he beat a FW"

There must be more examples.


It's come to the point that I don't want Islam to move up to 170. If he becomes champ, we'll hear the "this guy made a career of beating LWs and FWs".

 

[fortheo]

That's because beating lighter guys was such an insignificant part of their stories. With Islam, half of his title defenses are against a FW, and one of them was a short notice FW.

Maybe blachowicz was comparable since he beat jacare, rockhold, and izzy. But he wasn't as popular as islam, thus got less criticism. Although, I still to this day see the argument that Jan only beat Izzy because of his size.

 

[Hymen Crusher]

That's because beating lighter guys was such an insignificant part of their stories. With Islam, half of his title defenses are against a FW, and one of them was a short notice FW.

Maybe blachowicz was comparable since he beat jacare, rockhold, and izzy. But he wasn't as popular as islam, thus got less criticism..... Although I still to this day see the argument that Jan beat Izzy because of his size.

Exactly it's just so many even if it's not his fault.

 

[FrappeDuRocma]

When you have no angle to attack a great champ, you resort to B.S...

 

[DrRodentia]

Jones got it all the time

 

[Elegant]

Islam has some of the most defensive fans out of any fanbase lol

''Leave muh Islam alone!!!''

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

I don't know why these people cannot use critical thinking to figure out that FWs are very dangerous even at LW. Holloway just destroyed gaethje and gave dustin a close fight, volk did much better against Islam than true LWs like oliveira and dustin. It's like they just see FW and assume it's a free title defense. I guess it's just retards still mad conor lost

 

[Sean Chowdhury]

Islam has some of the most defensive fans out of any fanbase lol

''Leave muh Islam alone!!!''

 

[loisestrad]

TS must not have heard of the term weight bully. It's quite commonly used on Sherdog, and it's certainly not reserved to Islam.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Till used to get a lot f shit but he didn't give a fook.

“I ain’t no welterweight,” he continued. “I’m a light heavyweight in the welterweight division. It should be illegal, what I’m doing. The UFC should ban it but they can’t because I do it naturally and I do it professionally, and no one can do a fucking thing about it.”


Khamzat also gets it still to this day and its justified for the most part he needs to stay at MW though or LHW he can do both but he's done at 170 fo sho.. imho

 

[legedema]

because haters gonna hate

 

[Joshua8531]

It's very odd that I hear the "he beat a FW" again and again. I wouldn't mind it if other fighters got the same treatment.

-when GSP beat BJ Penn, I don't hear "he beat a LW"
-when Jan beat Izzy, I don't hear the "he beat a MW"
-when Stipe beat DC, I don't hear the "he beat a LHW"
-when Poirier beat Max (2nd fight), I don't hear "he beat a FW"

There must be more examples.


It's come to the point that I don't want Islam to move up to 170. If he becomes champ, we'll hear the "this guy made a career of beating LWs and FWs".

They were all champs. Poeple said that about KN, meaningless.
I don't agree with the pre-text if your champion of the weight class below you get to move up and face the Champion automatically, never have. You should at least have to fight a top 5 ranked.

 

[Joshua8531]

That's because beating lighter guys was such an insignificant part of their stories. With Islam, half of his title defenses are against a FW, and one of them was a short notice FW.

Maybe blachowicz was comparable since he beat jacare, rockhold, and izzy. But he wasn't as popular as islam, thus got less criticism. Although, I still to this day see the argument that Jan only beat Izzy because of his size.

Well that's a dumb opinion. IA was the Champion of a lower weight class correct? He moved to the face the champion of a higher weight class, correct? He lost, correct?

What was, as you insinuated against IA?

 

[188912345]

Another classic is to refer to someone as "former/blown up LW/FW", and throwing the "weight bully" term around. It's just a lazy way for people discredit fighters they don't like.

Just imagine if Islam was to lose against "former BW Topuria", wouldn't that be crazy?

 

[Doctor Grudge]

god, i seriously hate these weird dagi apologist.

its frustrating because they obviously dont follow the sport and only fan boy like 2 or 3 fighters. they're literally the same as mcgregor fans except they infest places like sherdog.


this thread in particular is annoying cause its so blatantly false.


literally almost EVERY champion in UFC history has been criticized for beating smaller guys because usually champions are among the biggest people in their weight class (or are perceived as such). That isnt to mention the countless non-champions that are always called weight bullies.


Like, someone just ban this guy. There is no way he could make any threads of any value just based on how utterly stupid this one is.

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

god, i seriously hate these weird dagi apologist.

its frustrating because they obviously dont follow the sport and only fan boy like 2 or 3 fighters. they're literally the same as mcgregor fans except they infest places like sherdog.


this thread in particular is annoying cause its so blatantly false.


literally almost EVERY champion in UFC history has been criticized for beating smaller guys because usually champions are among the biggest people in their weight class (or are perceived as such). That isnt to mention the countless non-champions that are always called weight bullies.


Like, someone just ban this guy. There is no way he could make any threads of any value just based on how utterly stupid this one is.

This. Was this really thread worthy, OP? What do you actually want to achieve with this thread? Just more slobber for Islam??

 

[Yankee]

Jon Jones was accused of this more than Islam. "He only beats up Middleweights" was a common thread daily.

 

[Harlekin]

Islam only fights FW and ex FW. Now he is even ducking a FW

Also the amount of Ali accounts on here is unbearable, as well as the Dagestani kids.

 

[Paladin]

That's because beating lighter guys was such an insignificant part of their stories. With Islam, half of his title defenses are against a FW, and one of them was a short notice FW.

Maybe blachowicz was comparable since he beat jacare, rockhold, and izzy. But he wasn't as popular as islam, thus got less criticism. Although, I still to this day see the argument that Jan only beat Izzy because of his size.

Additionally, with the exception of GSP, all the other examples are of fighters who also moved up in weight.
DC was a bonafide HW and had moved down to 205, then back up and never went back to 205.

Dustin and Max both moved up from 145.

Jan and Izzy both moved up from 185

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We Do hear Hamzat beat a 155 in burns
we heard for years that Cruz beat a tiny Mighty mouse
Some said khabib was “thicker” than Conor, thus too big for 155

islam is not being unfairly singled out when people point out that he has fought more 145’s in his title defenses than legit 155s

 

[Preston broadus]

Book Islam to fight topuria for his next defense and he'll end up fighting arman when topuria can't make weight