Islam is 1 fight away from breaking Anderson Silvas 16 fight win streak

[Prazeres]

Honestly Jon Jones should have the record, I'm pretty sure that he, Islam and Anderson were all juiced for most of their win streak, he's just the only one that got caught in the middle of it.

 

[Skarsgard]

You don't think any of his opponents used? Irvin or Hendo?

I think everyone except for Maia used something. Forrest Griffin is my all time favorite and I think even he used stuff.
Of course Dirtbag Dan was using. Vitor might have been clean though.

 

[El Fernas]

He probably breaks it, but its one of those overlooked records in Makhachev´s Career, in Anderson Silva´s "defense" he fought at a higher level his 2nd UFC fight.

Jones has had the real record for over a decade

Interesting, if we count the DQ as a W, he was beating his ass with or without any "foul", its 17 wins until the DC rematch, from there it starts to became shady, Gustaffson fight, Smith not taking the DQ Win, Santos, Reyes, but yeah, with the one everyone agrees he won that, its 17 straight wins.

 

[markg171]

Interesting, if we count the DQ as a W, he was beating his ass with or without any "foul", its 17 wins until the DC rematch, from there it starts to became shady, Gustaffson fight, Smith not taking the DQ Win, Santos, Reyes, but yeah, with the one everyone agrees he won that, its 17 straight wins.

It's more that who really gives a shit about a 16 fight win streak record when Jon Jones has a vastly more impressive 20-24 fight unbeaten streak record. It's 24 fights if you count Hamill for Jon given Jon beats himself there and the ref tremendously fucked things up prior to the DQ, and it's still 20 fights even if you do count it.

Which are both well ahead of 16 fights without an opponent being able to beat you.

We're all well aware that Jon's UFC run is the GOAT one. So I've struggled to care about the win record for years as it needs a pretty big asterisk beside it considering it really got beaten a while ago by a more impressive record.

 

[NovaJon93]

I know a lot of people understandably factor in his PED issues, but Jones is one technicality away from a 24 fight unbeaten streak due to a questionable rule that has since been eliminated.

That feels like the true unofficial benchmark, in my opinion.

 

[FilipEmoFights]

Naw dude it wasn’t just Anderson’s streak but it was the way he was beating these guys.

There is nothing Islam can do to even compare to Anderson’s highlight reel, we aren’t talking about the same things.

 

[FilipEmoFights]

It's more that who really gives a shit about a 16 fight win streak record when Jon Jones has a vastly more impressive 20-24 fight unbeaten streak record. It's 24 fights if you count Hamill for Jon given Jon beats himself there and the ref tremendously fucked things up prior to the DQ, and it's still 20 fights even if you do count it.

Which are both well ahead of 16 fights without an opponent being able to beat you.

We're all well aware that Jon's UFC run is the GOAT one. So I've struggled to care about the win record for years as it needs a pretty big asterisk beside it considering it really got beaten a while ago by a more impressive record.

Right dude like wtf are we even talking about?
It’s Anderson’s highlight reel that is undeniable and only Jon has come close to even touching. Some of Anderson’s fights were just…stupid. He put the Art in Martial arts
And I used to HATE Anderson. I actually was not a fan until he won me over with the first Chael fight (I was rooting for Chael and then right at the end it just gets nipped in the bud) And I realized (I was 14) I was watching greatness and I was lucky to witness that title fight happen during Anderson’s actual reign.

 

[Tweak896]

Now watch Islam's highlight reel, the Silva's and we can see what we lost. Don't get me wrong I think Islam is a great fighter, he's pretty unstoppable and I had him clearly over JDM yet was pestered every time I said it would look easy. Still, Silva of all fighters looked like the true GOAT more than anyone else has. I'm going to be bummed if he doesn't keep his record.

 

[Luthien]

Jones has had the real record for over a decade

 

[1King]

Bones is 24-0, Islam has a long way to go

 

[BFoe]

It’s an awesome accomplishment. Anderson has a higher quality of opponents throughout though imo, by virtue of having been Cage Rage champ shortly before he signed and so forth.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Anderson had 10 title defenses, 11 if you count Lutter which I do. Not even close to being the same thing.

 

[Your Salad]

Silva made it more fun.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Islam failed 4 months after the ban dude. It wasn't remotely close to the legal date and Islam was clearly still taking it.

WADA, who USADA follows, made a rule that particular year that ANY meldonium flag in ANY sport before September 31 that year (10 months after the ban) would be waived away if nobody was dumb enough to admit they took the drug after the Jan 1 ban.

It's the most asterisk of asterisk clearing you can get.

Lol at these guys making excuses for Islam. Citing technicalities over when meldonium was allowed and when it wasn’t. Where there’s smoke……

But yea, let’s live in a fantasy world where only the fighters you don’t like take PEDs

Jon and Anderson, Mount Rushmore.

Khabib=no.

Islam=maybe if he hangs around and beats some contenders at WW, but calling out Marty first is not a good start.

 

[HHJ]

break it break it
do it
do it
dooooooooo it

 

[usernamee]

Now watch Islam's highlight reel, the Silva's and we can see what we lost. Don't get me wrong I think Islam is a great fighter, he's pretty unstoppable and I had him clearly over JDM yet was pestered every time I said it would look easy. Still, Silva of all fighters looked like the true GOAT more than anyone else has. I'm going to be bummed if he doesn't keep his record.

Also it's one thing to utilize wrestling for a lot of your streak and another to get a streak like that going with pure striking, and at a higher weight class where the margins for error are much smaller.

 

[Ibm]

Andrson made it look easy though. Islam was in wars.

 

[DumpsterBaby]

I think everyone except for Maia used something. Forrest Griffin is my all time favorite and I think even he used stuff.
Of course Dirtbag Dan was using. Vitor might have been clean though.

He’s admitted it in an interview like several years ago. Forgot the context, but said something like “those guys must be on better steroids than I’m on.”

Everybody juiced back then and probably still do. Who cares? I want zero testing. Bring back the excitement.

 

[hbombbisping]

Bones is 24-0, Islam has a long way to go

Is he though? Even if you don't count Jon's loss to Hamill, which by the rules at the time it was, he lost to Reyes and was gifted the decision, even according to Dana.

Therefore Jon both officially or unofficially has a loss.

Choose your poison.

 

[markg171]

Is he though? Even if you don't count Jon's loss to Hamill, which by the rules at the time it was, he lost to Reyes and was gifted the decision, even according to Dana.

Therefore Jon both officially or unofficially has a loss.

Choose your poison.

There is a WORLD of difference in "losing" a fight where you'd already:

• TKO'd Hamill via dislocated shoulder injury from Jon's TD that the ref never noticed
• TKO'd Hamill via vicious elbows and GNP for 2 minutes straight that could've been stopped at any moment
• TKO'd Hamill again after the above with even more GNP while the ref started moronically verbally asking a DEAF man to fight back, who had a dislocated shoulder and couldn't/didn't do so even if he could hear what the ref was asking him to do
• Possibly TKO'd Hamill with what were actually legally landed elbows
• Only had the warning, not point deduction or stop in action

Only for the ref having the brain fart of all brain farts to declare that last elbow(s) is why Hamill is lying in the pile of blood he's been in for the last 2 minutes, has a dislocated shoulder, isn't responding to his verbal commands, and Jon must've NOW KO'd him with an illegal elbow.

Instead of obviously everything before this and Hamill's deafness.

VS

Jon maybe possibly losing a 48-47 decision he did in fact win against Reyes. It wasn't some score card 5-0 blowout he couldn't have won, he didn't get dominated, he didn't get finished and the ref reversed it off some technicality or fuckup like Magny/Matthews or other recent fights, etc. Disagreeing with judges decision =/= there being fundamentally wrong issues like what occurred with Hamill and where Hamill obviously wasn't the one who beat Jones even if you hold the DQ as valid as that's Jon beating himself.

That's why it's fair to say Jon has never been beaten by anybody in the UFC and why he holds the more important unbeaten ecord over whatever the win record is. The win record is an unbeaten designation too and Jon's is greater.

Even with the DQ he's still at 20 fights instead of 24, and 20 > 16.