Elections Is Tulsi Gabbard a Russian asset?

[unimackpass]

This Russia hysteria is some of the most embarrassing shit that I’ve seen in US politics.




Tulsi’s campaign was failing before Clinton accused her of treason. She’d fallen to 1% support in the RCP aggregates, had pissed off progressives by flip flopping on Medicare for all, and everybody laughed at her threat to boycott the last debate.

Russian bots on Twitter weren’t doing dick for her campaign. Hillary got her a ton of free publicity and got the progressive left to start defending her again.

It highlights how bizarre the claim is that the the Russians swung the race for Trump.
This whole thing is clown show from start to finish and it's not finished yet apparently.

 

[58miles]

This is what Hillary actually said.

 

[Jack V Savage]

You have absolutely no leg to stand on concerning personal attacks. There's that lack of self awareness again Jack.

I didn't even respond to you in this thread. Your whole response was just another of your typical dumb personal attacks out of the blue because I didn't blindly agree with the GOP narrative.

So you're telling me a person who has had debate questions handed to her couldn't "possibly" find a way to reach out to one of her supporters to start rumors about Tulsi? A person she thinks betrayed her because she supported Sanders? Words have meanings Jack, you're smart enough to realize that.

And note that I asked a question. Obviously, I know it's one that can't be answered because the idea that Clinton controls the media is batshit crazy. But I wanted to see you try to explain it rather than simply reassert your claim that the CT is possible. And I do realize that words have meanings, which is why I'm calling out the dishonesty here.

 

[Bald1]

I didn't even respond to you in this thread. Your whole response was just another of your typical dumb personal attacks out of the blue because I didn't blindly agree with the GOP narrative.



And note that I asked a question. Obviously, I know it's one that can't be answered because the idea that Clinton controls the media is batshit crazy. But I wanted to see you try to explain it rather than simply reassert your claim that the CT is possible. And I do realize that words have meanings, which is why I'm calling out the dishonesty here.

My bad. I thought the idea behind forums was to discuss points points of interest. And I found your assertion that it was impossible for Clinton to influence the media interesting. What a zany world!

I didn't say Clinton controlled the media. I did however find the notion that she can't influence it absurd. Now it's possible that she has nothing to do with it, just like it's possible your judgement isn't clouded when it comes to Hillary. However, it's impossible to interpret her allegation against Tulsi being a Russian asset as anything except exactly as that due to her use of the word "also".

 

[Phisher]

It highlights how bizarre the claim is that the the Russians swung the race for Trump.
This whole thing is clown show from start to finish and it's not finished yet apparently.

It's complete and utter horseshit. The reason that Hillary lost is because the "Obama coalition" didn't like her and either stayed home or actually voted for Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...home-in-2016-more-than-a-third-of-them-black/

Now Russia is a catch all conspiracy theory used to shut down any valid criticism of establishment Democrats.

Kamala Harris's idiot campaign manager, who previously worked for Clinton's 2016 campaign, was on Twitter claiming that black Democrats don't like Harris because Russia made them aware of how terrible her record as a prosecutor is.




Apparently, Russia made Harris brag to her rich donors about how she indicted a homeless black woman who was working two jobs because her kids missed school.

 

[PlayswellwithLawnDarts]

glad
Someone got it tbh.

 

[Deleted member 539235]

This is what Hillary actually said.

 

[waiguoren]

This is what Hillary actually said.

Good troll.


CNN has the raw audio. If you don't trust CNN, you can download the original podcast "Campaign HQ with David Plouffe" from iTunes.

 

[Jack V Savage]

My bad. I thought the idea behind forums was to discuss points points of interest. And I found your assertion that it was impossible for Clinton to influence the media interesting. What a zany world!

But your response was just a dumb personal attack, no? And then you whined when I pointed that out, while ducking my question.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Good troll.


CNN has the raw audio. If you don't trust CNN, you can download the original podcast "Campaign HQ with David Plouffe" from iTunes

??? How does this contradict the Times?

 

[waiguoren]

??? How does this contradict the Times?

You appear to misunderstand. It contradicts the tweet from "Nick Merrill", which @58miles quoted, which read:

On Friday, the NYT did a piece about a podcast Secretary Clinton did with David Plouffe. They incorrectly quoted her saying that the “Russians” were “grooming” a candidate running in the Democratic primary. They rightfully fixed it to reflect that she was taking about the GOP.

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Note also that this Nick Merrill fellow has over 54,000 followers and appears to specialize in spreading misinformation.

edit: the podcast does not "contradict" Merill's tweet. I was wrong about that point.

 

[Bald1]

But your response was just a dumb personal attack, no? And then you whined when I pointed that out, while ducking my question.

I'll cop to it being a personal attack when you do the same of your repeated allegations of dishonesty and stupidity against those who disagree with you. Remember, we can both back our claims up.

As to ducking your question? It's an established fact that Clinton has sympathizers within MSM and my assertion is that it is indeed possible she could have reached out to one such person for a favour. Or did you miss that part of my post?

 

[Rockapotomuss]

You're not, though. Your link says that sometimes assets are called agents, but then proceeds to define asset in a way that is very different from agent. Clearly, in the context of her comments, she was not using "asset" in that sense. You are aware (assuming you read the link), but you prefer to misrepresent her comments. So naturally, one is drawn to the conclusion that is another example of your famed dishonesty. It's not a personal attack, either. It's a comment about a very specific behavior and your tendency to engage in it.

An agent is an asset, but an asset is not necessarily an agent.

 

[58miles]

You appear to misunderstand. It contradicts the tweet from "Nick Merrill", which @58miles quoted, which read:

On Friday, the NYT did a piece about a podcast Secretary Clinton did with David Plouffe. They incorrectly quoted her saying that the “Russians” were “grooming” a candidate running in the Democratic primary. They rightfully fixed it to reflect that she was taking about the GOP.

​

Note also that this Nick Merrill fellow has over 54,000 followers and appears to specialize in spreading misinformation.

I listened to the podcast and Hillary was referring to the Republicans grooming Tulsi as a 3rd party candidate because Trump cannot win the swing states without a 3rd party candidate to take votes away from the Democratic candidate. Hillary referred to Jill Stein as a Russian asset.

 

[Bald1]

I listened to the podcast and Hillary was referring to the Republicans grooming Tulsi as a 3rd party candidate because Trump cannot win the swing states without a 3rd party candidate to take votes away from the Democratic candidate. Hillary referred to Jill Stein as a Russian asset.

“That’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she’s also a Russian asset … yes, she’s a Russian asset. I mean, totally,” Mrs. Clinton said.

What do you think the word "also" means?

 

[waiguoren]

Hillary referred to Jill Stein as a Russian asset.

HRC said that Stein is "also a Russian asset" after talking about how the Russians have many ways of supporting Gabbard.

 

[jeffk]

Tapper says "Russians" but the tape he played said "They".

What was said right before the clip played?

 

[HereticBD]

You have absolutely no leg to stand on concerning personal attacks. There's that lack of self awareness again Jack.

I assure you that he does not lack self awareness in that regard, and is just trolling.

 

[HereticBD]

This is what Hillary actually said.

Fucking pathetic that you just go along with it. She clearly said "Russians", you despicable hack.

 

[sickc0d3r]

Still slightly (un)surprised by the lack of attention given to Tulsi's utterly unhinged comment that this primary election is between her (polling at less than one percent) and Hillary (who isn't running). That's the single craziest thing a candidate has said so far, and is almost impossibly narcissistic. You can't possibly trust a person with that kind of demented self-perception.

Not sure I agree it’s the single craziest thing said by any candidate, but taking the bait from Hilldawg is at least either a severe lack of judgement or a calculated move to embrace fringe status. Neither is a great look. I am disappoint.