Social Is rap music degenerate? Yes it is

[Koro_11]

Not as obsessed as you are with my junk.

Look the alt right "hip hop head" can't answer the simple question of "what is hip hop culture?"

DJ Lil' Koro not bringing the heat. Smh

Obsessed with what? I see no junk whatsoever, you look about as hung as a Ken doll.

Fuck your question, you’re a little bug who is still butt hurt over some pissing contest we had over a month ago, still holding some grudge like a bitter woman. I don’t give a fuck how emotional you are or how offended you feel, and I certainly don’t give a shit if you think I’m “far right”, because a leftist cuck calling you that in 2025 just basically means you’re somewhere to the right of Karl Marx.

I already made my point clear and couldn’t care less what you think.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Obsessed with what? I see no junk whatsoever, you look about as hung as a Ken doll.

Fuck your question, you’re a little bug who is still butt hurt over some pissing contest we had over a month ago, still holding some grudge like a bitter woman. I don’t give a fuck how emotional you are or how offended you feel, and I certainly don’t give a shit if you think I’m “far right”, because a leftist cuck calling you that in 2025 just basically means you’re somewhere to the right of Karl Marx.

I already made my point clear and couldn’t care less what you think.

Its like when the mods have to scold you for turning every thread into a trans thread. Why the hell are you looking for and obsessed with the size of my penis????? Lmao. Wrong thread to troll for dick in little guy.
Thats so not hip hop of you.

So all that to say you are a dorky suburbanite that can't even explain what you mean by "hip hop culture" & that you rather talk about man meat.

 

[Hog-train]

Im not moving anything, my initial argument was simply that the majority of hip hop has a mostly negative effect on youth, and then somehow it become about what do Canadians know about hip hop culture.

You sound like every old person complaining about the "music these days" that existed even when you were a kid. They said the same exact shit about rock way back in the day. Then it was metal, then grunge, etc.

Don't be that person.

 

[Koro_11]

You sound like every old person complaining about the "music these days" that existed even when you were a kid. They said the same exact shit about rock way back in the day. Then it was metal, then grunge, etc.

Don't be that person.

And who do you suppose has a better grasp on what’s positive and what is detrimental, a young person or an old person?

My opinion is that the music is an overall negative on society, now I’m not calling for it to be outlawed, I’m not saying I don’t get it because I was that dumb kid at some stage in my life, I’m just saying I think young people wouldn’t be worse off if they never listened to any gangster rap in their life.

 

[NoSmilez]

"Grand Master Koro" made me fall the fuck out. Spittin' dat fire, yo.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

So, I'm old?

Compared to most people listening to rap today you probably are. Hey, but welcome to the club.

 

[Hog-train]

And who do you suppose has a better grasp on what’s positive and what is detrimental, a young person or an old person?

My opinion is that the music is an overall negative on society, now I’m not calling for it to be outlawed, I’m not saying I don’t get it because I was that dumb kid at some stage in my life, I’m just saying I think young people wouldn’t be worse off if they never listened to any gangster rap in their life.

I'm not that young. I'm 36 and a lot of young people might think you're just out of touch and grouchy and old.

When you were young, there were older people who thought the music or whatever you were into was terrible for society and all the same shit you're saying now.

So now you're saying all those older people from your youth were right? I bet you don't think that.

I bet the things you were into as a younger person is still cool in your eyes.

So stop being old and lame.

 

[mozfonky]

I'm not that young. I'm 36 and a lot of young people might think you're just out of touch and grouchy and old.

When you were young, there were older people who thought the music or whatever you were into was terrible for society and all the same shit you're saying now.

So now you're saying all those older people from your youth were right? I bet you don't think that.

I bet the things you were into as a younger person is still cool in your eyes.

STFU and stop being old and lame.

some of it really was hard to defend. Grunge with all the drugs/heroin use shortened or ended a lot of lives, I knew some of them and they seem to have had some real health problems which may or may not be from all the hard living.

The 80's had some destructive types of metal, I think there was a big case where some kid tried to blame some metal band, I can't think of the band because I didn't really listen to much of that but the arguement that it caused kids to behave badly was the same, always was like that. Even back in the 50's "juvenile delinquent" and Rock and Roll were terms used in conjunction. I don't think it's anything to compare to all the killings these buttheads today perpretate. No comparison.

Like I keep saying, most of those guys,even if they had troubled lives, did not encourage people to follow them. I'd have to say Prince's biggest thing was deviant sex and that weird religious thing where no one knew who the hell he was worshipping. MJ had the perfect public image up to when he just got too strange, wouldn't stop with the surgeries and got caught with the boys. Bruce Springsteen is a guy who is really hard to find fault with but I'm sure some christian group did back when he was the hottest thing in the biz. No drugs, sex wasn't central to his music and he plain was too boring for a lot of people, even today i get teased about the boss.

Coolness or hipness is a huge part of a fan's liking artists. I mentioned Macklemore a few pages back, he just doesn't talk about killing or backwards shit and that's always a recipe for a guy sucking or being terrible. Ya, the guys who talk about killing this and that, getting shot, selling shit, those are the guys that sell. Goodie two shoes don't make good stars, nothing new about that.

 

[DoctorTaco]

calling all women the B word

Says the dude with the Andrew Tate avatar?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Ya it’s pure garbage that only damages kids and society.

But count on the usual mouth breathers to call you racist or old for pointing it out.

Those songs about murder, Liquor, guns, Womanizing, wanna be outlaw bullshit.

Spoiler

country music

 

[mozfonky]

Those songs about murder, Liquor, guns, Womanizing, wanna be outlaw bullshit.

Spoiler

country music

ultimate adolescent fantasy, that's all it is.

 

[DoctorTaco]

ultimate adolescent fantasy, that's all it is.

You mean all pop music?

 

[evergreenrider]

i should check em out.

edit, right on, not bad.

Eat a bullet depressing. But amazing story telling from the greatest vocalist of traditional country. I also recommend Merle Haggard's entire discography for amazing storytelling music. Merle is the greatest song writer in country music history. Imo.

 

[evergreenrider]

ultimate adolescent fantasy, that's all it is.

Or, being truthful about the battles one faces attempting to live a righteous life in a sinful world. Country and hip hop originate from the same roots. It's the same struggle. From different perspectives.

 

[Phlog]

Hey don't insult shoes like that. Who needs Motown, timeless songs with harmony, good lyrics, positive or thought provoking messaging when you have Sexyy Red. Natural evolution, old people wouldn't get it.

Gah, a chap can smell the poverty through the Bally old screen, wot.

 

[HenryFlower]

Coolness or hipness is a huge part of a fan's liking artists. I mentioned Macklemore a few pages back, he just doesn't talk about killing or backwards shit and that's always a recipe for a guy sucking or being terrible. Ya, the guys who talk about killing this and that, getting shot, selling shit, those are the guys that sell. Goodie two shoes don't make good stars, nothing new about that.

 

[mozfonky]

Or, being truthful about the battles one faces attempting to live a righteous life in a sinful world. Country and hip hop originate from the same roots. It's the same struggle. From different perspectives.

that's a good one, everyone that faces a battle should sneer at strangers and yell and scream "on my mama" or bullshit like that. Or slang drugs or shoot up people who cross them, that's the way to handle all lifes battles. And before you say it, ya, america was built on that bullshit but they won't take kindly to people imitating their backwardness. They show guys like that who's the real alpha. What kills me is just how cooperative these boneheads are when the big boys come, all thug when it comes to grannies or you and me and pussies when it's time to really show what they are.

Everyday something nutty like that happens in my area, some bonehead shot at someone on the highway today, the guy who was shot at followed the guy and of course when the cops show up, he's cooperative. If you're gonna be a thug at least be serious about it.

 

[Teppodama]

Eh, this shift you're talking about just happens to coincide with when Hip Hop became corporatized.

Doesn't matter, it's still on the whole hip hop community that it was allowed to shift. In fact, that makes it especially egregious that it was allowed to shift to a glorification of the negative elements. They allowed corporate white guys with money to turn them from hip hop poets to lyrical thugs and to like the change.

 

[I Am Legion]

I grew up in Hip Hop. I actually remember when it just started. I grew up with Busta Rhymes and the creative forces were real. There is still some good stuff out there. Unfortunately, Hip Hop is in a down cycle where the mainstream stuff is pretty bad. The male mumble rappers have little skill and support a drug culture. The female rappers act like whores and really are untalented---Sexy Red, Glorilla, Cardi B, Ice Spice, all garbage. Because it's black music, critics won't attack it due to being un PC....But when you have a song at the Grammy's called Wet Ass Pussy, you know you have issues in the culture. In my day, rappers wanted to seem smart, and wordsmiths. Besides a few today, they all suck.

 

[Thrawn33]

Metalhead here: It's not just rap, but it doesn't bother me if the song is good.

Johnny Cash wrote a song about doing coke and shooting his cheating woman (Cocaine Blues) and shooting a guy just to watch him die (Folsom Prison Blues) and hunting down his father who abandoned him to kill him (Boy Named Sue)

Black Sabbath (GOATs) wrote songs about drugs...(Snowblind, the Wizard)

Guns and Roses recorded a woman having sex in the studio and put it on a track (Rocket Queen)

Hendrix sang about drugs (Purple Haze) and shooting a cheating woman (Hey Joe)

Motley Crue ..... model degenerates too many examples to name


And that's just a few mainstream acts, the more extreme ends of the genre have all kinds of degenerate lyrics.