Is psychopathy an advantage in fighting?

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Immediately thought of Aleks when I saw this thread

 

[ki11ian]

It helps Jones deal with everything in the public eye. Fighting wise I don’t see any direct benefits.

 

[RJK]

It's interesting. I wonder why impulsiveness is associated with psychopathy?

Impulsivity is more a component of sociopathy, and it's often related to frontal lobe issues - whether developmental, damage or lesions. They are emotionally volatile - the kind of person that can't help but get into a fight, start screaming at someone at the drop of a hat, or drive wildly. They tend to stand out.

Psychopaths also lack empathy, which similarly relates to reduced development of the frontal and temporal lobes, but can rate highly in conscientiousness and tend to be calm in high stress situations. This means they can hide their true nature better i.e. without giving themselves away with impulsive acts. Consequently they can be successful in high end careers more easily than a sociopath.

The literature often uses the two terms interchangeably which muddies things a bit.

 

[MMAart]

A psychopath is described as someone who completely lacks a conscience. They are "cold-blooded and calculating", "skilled actors whose sole mission is to manipulate people for personal gain." (webmd)

Suppose you are a psychopath and you know that you will not be penalized the first few times you poke someone in the eyes or knee them in the groin. Then you would poke them in the eyes or knee them in the groin as soon as doing so would give you more of an advantage than any other action available to you. A normal person would probably choose not to use these moves even if doing so would gain them a huge advantage, and may adjust their actions sub-optimally out of guilt if they did accidentally use them. But a psychopath would take full advantage of the moves and feel no guilt afterwards.

Suppose you are a psychopath and you know you can get away with taking PEDs. Then you would take them even if you think you are already the best in the world, simply because they will increase your advantage. A normal person might only take PEDs if they lacked real confidence and be mentally impaired in the fight by both that lack of confidence and guilt. But a psychopath could be completely confident, enjoy all the benefits of the PEDs, and feel no guilt whatsoever.

Last of all, suppose you do all of the above and you become widely regarded as scum of a human being by your peers and the public. A normal person might feel the weight of this derision in their training and the fight, and perform at less than their best as a result. But a psychopath would not only not be affected by the derision, but they could actually use it by making their opponents hate them so much that they could not compete against them with a level head. As anyone who has competed knows, there are many pitfalls to hating your opponent. You can spend all your energy hating them rather than thinking how to beat them. You might fight them out of anger rather than using strategy.

If one had to compete against a true psychopath, what is the optimal mental strategy for doing so?

And just out of curiosity, which kinds careers, competitions, etc. do you think favor psychopaths and which do not?

Having no conscience alone doesn't make a great fighter, if the person has low fight IQ and subpar techniques.

 

[MMAart]

It would absolutely be an advantage.

People are misinformed about psychopaths. They associate that label with killers and murderers. It's not so. There are plenty of psychopaths that lead normal and successful lives.

In fact most people that are successful in high-level business are clinical psychopaths. They feel no remorse for fucking people over and ruining others lives on their way to the top.

You're looking at 2 of them here: (left to right) Ari Emanuel, Patrick Whitesell

 

[Vergilius]

It's interesting. I wonder why impulsiveness is associated with psychopathy?

Lack of impulse control is one of the key traits of what is popularly called psychopathy: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886911001978

BTW. a lot of psychopaths tend to be bullies who target those weaker than themselves. They often don't handle it well if they are faced with opponents who stand up to them (be it physcially or emotionally). Thus I'm not sure they'd always make great fighters - they can make for very deadly soldiers, though.

 

[Muay Thai #1]

it's the key to Jon Jones success

Nah, Jones is a sociopath

 

[DeeDubb]

Jones definitely strikes me as having classic psychopathic behavior.

More sociopathic than psychopathic

 

[Paynebringer]

Get a f*king life man...

 

[MescalineDreams]

Jones definitely strikes me as having classic psychopathic behavior.

think you're confusing narcissism with psychopathy

many people are it would seem

Which is quite strange as It's a massive leap.

 

[elwani]

Get a f*king life man...

Then you're really not going to like my other thread idea:

Are people who have no lives primarily the ones telling others to get a life?

 

[HHJ]

Thinly veiled jones hate thread.

Good.

 

[Paynebringer]

Then you're really not going to like my other thread idea:

Are people who have no lives primarily the ones telling others to get a life?

All your other threads suck sh!t too, you keep repeating the same sh!t with different wordz, f*king annoying...

 

[elwani]

All your other threads suck sh!t too, you keep repeating the same sh!t with different wordz, f*king annoying...

Are you censoring yourself to avoid the parental filter your mom installed as a condition for paying for your Sherdog membership?

 

[Serge421]

Jones definitely strikes me as having classic psychopathic behavior.

Especially when he didn't check up on that pregnant lady but he came back to grab his weed lol

 

[Watcha gunna doo]

You're looking at 2 of them here: (left to right) Ari Emanuel, Patrick Whitesell

How do you know these two are psychopats?

 

[Watcha gunna doo]

More sociopathic than psychopathic

Same thing

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Absolutely! How many people have we seen hold themselves back in one way or another because of empathy or being too nice?

 

[The Merchant]

It would absolutely be an advantage.

People are misinformed about psychopaths. They associate that label with killers and murderers. It's not so. There are plenty of psychopaths that lead normal and successful lives.

In fact most people that are successful in high-level business are clinical psychopaths. They feel no remorse for fucking people over and ruining others lives on their way to the top.

Exactly snakes in suits is a thing for a reason. Loads of psychopaths in politics too, sort of explains a lot of things.

 

[OneManOrgy]

Buffalo Jon Jones