Is just me or Manon Fiorot is pretty overrated?

[xhaydenx]

Chook isn't particularly athletic.

Eh, personally, I feel like she's won most of her fights due to cardio and athleticism. More the cardio, but def the athleticism a lot as well.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Eh, personally, I feel like she's won most of her fights due to cardio and athleticism. More the cardio, but def the athleticism a lot as well.

She wins by keeping range and Chook Chooking people to death.

I'd maybe use Maycee Barber instead.

 

[Poirierfan]

Her best asset is strength. She's huge for the division and strong. In some wmma divions that all someone needs to get to the top, that and a little skill.

 

[Poirierfan]

Dominated Rose?

LOL. Fiorot got outstruck by a one-handed Rose, who dislocated a finger on her lead hand in the first round.


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That shit looks just as crazy as when it was first posted, how in the hell? Adrenaline is a hell of a drug.

 

[blaseblase]

The irony is that Fiorot is the most proven number one contender the division has ever had.

 

[NicholasJBasile]

I think she becomes champ -- she has a very tough style to beat.

 

[Kenny Powerth]

Confirmed troll account
Another one meets the end

 

[jitzmonkey]

I'm not saying she's a bad fighter or anything but I can't see anything special about her beyond her privileged size for 125. She is not the best striker and much less the better grappler. Is her take down defense great? The only one tried took her to the ground was the not very athletic Blanchfield and her telepgraphed takedowns

Seems to me she is a younger Holly Holm

The one who made the (formerly) arguable WMMA GOAT look silly?


Fiorot is well rounded in a shallow division.
As far as development, at > 34 years old, she needs to stake her claim quick.

 

[flowoftruth]

she looks the part but turns out shes french sadly

 

[BJJ4Tone]

privileged size

 

[Kezta]

She's risk averse and only does what's needed to get the W. It's a sport to her, she doesn't care about the entertainment part.

And to be fair, that's not her fault if her opponents can't get past her basics and force her to dig deeper.

 

[DanDragon Machi]

Yeah she'll have an average career like former world champion and multiple times world title challenger Holly Holm.

Holm as much less than everyone thought she would be after humiliating Rousey. The expectation was to be dominant and she fell in the first defense
The current 125 has fighters way better than Tate

 

[xhaydenx]

She wins by keeping range and Chook Chooking people to death.

I'd maybe use Maycee Barber instead.

If you look up what athleticism is, you'll see that it's a range things done to a certain level. speed, strength, and agility are the cores, but there's other parts to it like mobility, agility, aerobic ability, etc.

Like, Manon, Nat Silva, Rose, Val, Chook, etc. all possess a lot of those, which is huge for them. There's been whole fights where girls can't even touch Val, Rose, and Nat because they're so for ahead with their mobility, agility, and speed alone. All 3 have the aerobic ability too. All of them meet the strength as well.

Manon keeps her range as a result of mobility. She's also very strong and everything is done quickly enough.

What's important though is that none of them are so low in any one area that it compromises them.

A girl like Barber has a bit of all that, but she's not particularly fast or overly mobile. She's more just strength. The mobility drags her down.

Erin has almost no speed or agility, but she's very strong and has cheat code anaerobic ability. The speed drags her down.

Both Barber and Erin would need a bit more for me. You gotta have a bit more than just 2-3 elements and have nothing drag you down too much.

On the other end of the spectrum, not counting girls who have next to nothing of anything, like say Manic Mann, you have someone like Gillian, who likely has enough of just about every metric, but then is so absolutely far behind with her speed that nearly all of her losses have come as a result of not being able to shoot fast enough on her opponent.

Na Liang is another one like that: completely dominates in nearly every metric. Top level speed, strength, mobility, agility, etc. to the point where she was the best so called "athlete" to come out of the UFC P.I., which was nonsense because she had absolutely 0 anaerobic ability at all lol, and got finished in every one of her fights as a result.

No idea why I'm writing an essay on how I perceive athleticism in WMMA, but here we are lol. I've made amazing cash just betting on the girl who I know is noticeably "snappier" if that makes sense. They usually always win when it comes to WMMA. It leads to very clear visuals for the judges, if not outright easy ways for the fighter to win.

 

[DanDragon Machi]

The one who made the (formerly) arguable WMMA GOAT look silly?


Fiorot is well rounded in a shallow division.
As far as development, at > 34 years old, she needs to stake her claim quick.

How good is her ground game? She has not even been tested in other fields of fight to to be called well rounded

 

[DanDragon Machi]

If you look up what athleticism is, you'll see that it's a range things done to a certain level. speed, strength, and agility are the cores, but there's other parts to it like mobility, agility, aerobic ability, etc.

Like, Manon, Nat Silva, Rose, Val, Chook, etc. all possess a lot of those, which is huge for them. There's been whole fights where girls can't even touch Val, Rose, and Nat because they're so for ahead with their mobility, agility, and speed alone. All 3 have the aerobic ability too. All of them meet the strength as well.

Manon keeps her range as a result of mobility. She's also very strong and everything is done quickly enough.

What's important though is that none of them are so low in any one area that it compromises them.

A girl like Barber has a bit of all that, but she's not particularly fast or overly mobile. She's more just strength. The mobility drags her down.

Erin has almost no speed or agility, but she's very strong and has cheat code anaerobic ability. The speed drags her down.

Both Barber and Erin would need a bit more for me. You gotta have a bit more than just 2-3 elements and have nothing drag you down too much.

On the other end of the spectrum, not counting girls who have next to nothing of anything, like say Manic Mann, you have someone like Gillian, who likely has enough of just about every metric, but then is so absolutely far behind with her speed that nearly all of her losses have come as a result of not being able to shoot fast enough on her opponent.

Na Liang is another one like that: completely dominates in nearly every metric. Top level speed, strength, mobility, agility, etc. to the point where she was the best so called "athlete" to come out of the UFC P.I., which was nonsense because she had absolutely 0 anaerobic ability at all lol, and got finished in every one of her fights as a result.

No idea why I'm writing an essay on how I perceive athleticism in WMMA, but here we are lol. I've made amazing cash just betting on the girl who I know is noticeably "snappier" if that makes sense. They usually always win when it comes to WMMA. It leads to very clear visuals for the judges, if not outright easy ways for the fighter to win.

I agree
I felt like Grasso looked smaller than she was in the two previous fights. Did you see it too? In first and second fight it seemed like she was as strong as Valentina in the clinch, fence and ground

 

[xhaydenx]

I agree
I felt like Grasso looked smaller than was in the two previous fights. Did you see it too? In first and second fight it seemed like she was as strong as Valentina in the clinch, fence and ground

Honestly, I thought Grasso looked bigger than I remembered in the shoulder area. You might be right though. I'd have to look at her previously.

Val is just a master tactician. I think it was more that she wasn't fucking around in the clinch or on the feet this time unless it was completely on her terms. She just shot low and got the easy tds. Grasso has been taken down that exact way a lot in fights.

Val also wasn't doing anything risky on the ground that was allowing for getups.

Val is pretty smart like that, whether it's something her and her team come up with before the fight, or an adjustment she makes during it. Like when she fought Maia and got completely handled in the grappling for an entire round. Looked like Maia was gonna do that the entire fight. Then Val made some slight adjustments, never allowed Maia to do that again, and instead she literally done it back to her lol.

 

[mjoln]

Overrated? I have no idea who is manon fiorot. Is there any hype? I dont see threads about her.

 

[MDoza]

She doesn’t have any glaring deficiencies, and a size and strength advantage goes a long way, especially in WMMA.

 

[Yorick the Wiser]

wow, glad to see so much attention/discussion devoted to WMMA.
it's usually derided and discarded, sometimes with good reason, as unwatchable garbage.

I personally love watching two gals fight, especially if there is extended viewing of jiggly glutes.

 

[jitzmonkey]

How good is her ground game? She has not even been tested in other fields of fight to to be called well rounded

It's all relative.
Isn't it?