Is Jones mentally weak?

[TerraRayzing]

I saw this being discussed and I was curious. Now, Jones is a professional fighter and one of the GOATs so he's infinitely mentally tougher than me and most people but in the context of the sport, do you think he is?
Refusing to fight Sonnen short notice.
Partying one week before every fight as a safety net.
Refusing to fight Cormier at heavyweight cause it would give DC the advantage.
Current ducking of Aspinall.

Other greats like Silva, Fedor, MM and Aldo have risked their spot and legacy by fighting younger guys despite knowing they are past their prime and they did it consistently. Meanwhile Jones has refused this and his defense is: I'm done too much in my career. Everyone else is a nobody.

GSP pulled off a similar thing when he beat Bisping but he vacated the belt and didn't hold up the division. Jones meanwhile has held the division up for over a year now.

 

[Ares Black]

Obviously not IMO

Mentally ill maybe.

Morally weak maybe.

Not mentally weak.

 

[World eater]

Mentally and physically strong. Just unscrupulous and morally questionable. Scary combo for a fighter.

 

[sanguinius]

How is the division being held up? Aspinall is still fighting. If you want to pretend that the greatest of all time is ducking, just consider aspinall the champion.

Jones has been set to fight stipe for a long time due to the injury. They don’t need to cancel that fight for your benefit.

 

[TerraRayzing]

Obviously not IMO

Mentally ill maybe.

Morally weak maybe.

Not mentally weak.

Mentally and physically strong. Just unscrupulous and morally questionable. Scary combo for a fighter.

I think so too. Another factor is that when Jones gets pushed in fights, he doesn't slow down and doesn't back down, like the Gus and Reyes fight. That's a sign.

 

[sickness666]

How is the division being held up? Aspinall is still fighting. If you want to pretend that the greatest of all time is ducking, just consider aspinall the champion.

Jones has been set to fight stipe for a long time due to the injury. They don’t need to cancel that fight for your benefit.

Because the real title is for 18 month in the hands of this drug cheat, thats why the division is held up.
And what makes him the greatest of all time? Every two-division champ who ever was is IMO higher in the rankings. I would give him the greatest LHW, but thats it. Fighting Gane for the title und defending it against a grandpa who hasn´t fought for 4 years and coming of a brutal KO loss against a guy he dominated before, how should that make him great? I like Stipe far more than JBJ, but come on. How should anybody outside this two MF´s think off a legacy fight?

 

[Stagliano]

Lol at sherdoggerz shitting on Jones because he dosen't want to get smashed left and rights by youngers fighters while praising GSP because he has left the game at the "right time".

TS has even mentionned Silva, Fedor and Aldo as good exemples altough peoples says usually that they should have retired years ago.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

No he is not mentally weak, having 15 title fights in UFC and out smarting them all is not someone who has a mental weakness.

 

[TheBulge]

Probably the strongest mentally I have ever seen. Even by things like telling the UFC "short notice fight doesnt work for me brother".

But I wont deny the pokes were bad. He never needed that crap.

 

[RockyLockridge]

What an incredibly obtuse question to even ask


I know with 100% certainty that if Jones fought aspinall and destroyed him aspinall would become a can over night

 

[Doctor Grudge]

None of the things you mentioned has anything to do with mental toughness.

Jon Jones parties because he is a drug addict. Has nothing to do with a safety net, I never even heard of that excuse before.

And also the Chael Sonnen criticism is one of the strangest Jon Jones criticisms that keeps being brought up. Countless championship fighters have refused taking fights on short notice. Didn't Alex Peiriera literally just do that after previously accepting short notice fights? Is he mentally weak too?

Like the impression is that Jon Jones ducked Chael Sonnen. Am I in bizzaro world or didn't they fight, and he beat his ass? Why would fighting him on short notice be indicative of anything other than he wasn't ready to fight him on short notice?

 

[NoSmilez]

He has very strong belief that he is god's favorite.

 

[sanguinius]

Because the real title is for 18 month in the hands of this drug cheat, thats why the division is held up.
And what makes him the greatest of all time? Every two-division champ who ever was is IMO higher in the rankings. I would give him the greatest LHW, but thats it. Fighting Gane for the title und defending it against a grandpa who hasn´t fought for 4 years and coming of a brutal KO loss against a guy he dominated before, how should that make him great? I like Stipe far more than JBJ, but come on. How should anybody outside this two MF´s think off a legacy fight?

You should look up his fights at lhw. He did a lot and you'll probably enjoy them, he is very talented. The heavyweight title was just cake. Silva didn't go up in weight class to be considered one of the goats.

 

[SuperAlly]

Yes. He certainly appears to be mentally weak, running away from Tom

 

[bjjwar]

I saw this being discussed and I was curious. Now, Jones is a professional fighter and one of the GOATs so he's infinitely mentally tougher than me and most people but in the context of the sport, do you think he is?
Refusing to fight Sonnen short notice.
Partying one week before every fight as a safety net.
Refusing to fight Cormier at heavyweight cause it would give DC the advantage.
Current ducking of Aspinall.

Other greats like Silva, Fedor, MM and Aldo have risked their spot and legacy by fighting younger guys despite knowing they are past their prime and they did it consistently. Meanwhile Jones has refused this and his defense is: I'm done too much in my career. Everyone else is a nobody.

GSP pulled off a similar thing when he beat Bisping but he vacated the belt and didn't hold up the division. Jones meanwhile has held the division up for over a year now.

He's also super sensitive, responding to all the online trolls trying to defend himself lol. Always picked matchups where he had the clear advantage. So many past their prime old MW's. Struggled vs any average guy his size that wasnt washed.

 

[sickness666]

You should look up his fights at lhw. He did a lot and you'll probably enjoy them, he is very talented. The heavyweight title was just cake. Silva didn't go up in weight class to be considered one of the goats.

Seems, you didn´t understand my post. May be try it again.
I know all of his fights, I was a fan till he decided to crash a pregnant woman and ran away, only to come back and grab his dope.
Nobody of the guys he fought at LHW was in his prime, not even Shogun. And the guys who were in their prime (Gustaffson 1, DC f.e.) he was lucky to get the W or got caught cheating.
No matter how you spin it you will not convince me to suck his nuts.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

It's so hard keeping up with the Sherdog narrative on Jon. He goes from uncaring psychopath to insecure pussy and back again.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

I saw this being discussed and I was curious. Now, Jones is a professional fighter and one of the GOATs so he's infinitely mentally tougher than me and most people but in the context of the sport, do you think he is?
Refusing to fight Sonnen short notice.
Partying one week before every fight as a safety net.
Refusing to fight Cormier at heavyweight cause it would give DC the advantage.
Current ducking of Aspinall.

Other greats like Silva, Fedor, MM and Aldo have risked their spot and legacy by fighting younger guys despite knowing they are past their prime and they did it consistently. Meanwhile Jones has refused this and his defense is: I'm done too much in my career. Everyone else is a nobody.

GSP pulled off a similar thing when he beat Bisping but he vacated the belt and didn't hold up the division. Jones meanwhile has held the division up for over a year now.

Jones = Afraid of Big Punchers

Terrified of Rumble Johnson ... doesn't want to face Aspinall.

Even though Pereira = Big Puncher, Jones feels he has a wrestling advantage, and will obviously attempt to take Alex down immediately.

Stipe = Puncher, but Jones thinks Miocic is over the hill. This may backfire against Jon though ...

 

[Superzorro]

Because the real title is for 18 month in the hands of this drug cheat, thats why the division is held up.
And what makes him the greatest of all time? Every two-division champ who ever was is IMO higher in the rankings. I would give him the greatest LHW, but thats it. Fighting Gane for the title und defending it against a grandpa who hasn´t fought for 4 years and coming of a brutal KO loss against a guy he dominated before, how should that make him great? I like Stipe far more than JBJ, but come on. How should anybody outside this two MF´s think off a legacy fight?

You should look up his fights at lhw. He did a lot and you'll probably enjoy them, he is very talented. The heavyweight title was just cake. Silva didn't go up in weight class to be considered one of the goats.

I love how he didn’t actually answer the question. The reality is, even if Jones vacated, we would still be seeing the same fights. He just wants the dopamine hit of seeing his favorite fighter with the “real” belt. From a mature fans perspective, there’s truly no difference.

 

[BangBang]

He's an narcissistic egomaniac but I wouldn't call him mentally weak!