Interview with Jon Jones' Physique Trainer

cagerageforever said:
When I was training twice a day, 4 days a week for a few months, I was around 5000cal a day. I was losing weight. BUT, though I was eating healthy, it was just basic nutrition. Wasn't maximising nutrient density.
Stan has a wealth of knowledge but even I can't see around that 4k being enough.
That said, JJ frame is not as thick as other tall HWs so I guess that is maybe enough to increase without lovehandles.
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Maybe they are just trying to maintain. Maybe Jon is taking it easy right now from some sort of small injury or something going on like that? This could be part of the reason he is no hurry to get back in a fight.
 
SexyBaroni said:
I am ordering creatine ASAP, already have fish oil
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Dont forget the electrolytes and Tribulus Terestris Testo Booster. With them you will manage 100lb of pure muscle. :D
ikite103 said:
You are an idiot Jones wants to become a 300lb mass monster no government trained 160lb nutritionist knows more about that than Stan Efferding he is a powerlifter before a bodybuilder and has worked with professional athletes for decades. He broke the 40 year old world powerlifting world record in 2013. His world record still stands. He was a much more successful powerlifter than bodybuilder. He is not some big dumb bodybuilder he is very intelligent and knows his shit and a proven champion. If you want to get big and strong he is the foremost expert in the World. Meanwhile a 160lb nutritionist doesn't know a godamn thing about any of that stuff.
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I never ever said he was dumb. Actually I think he is quite competent. But its boring to discuss with you as you obviously have no clue about the professions I talked about. The red flags I meantioned are from his successes with massive steroid abuse and more. Thats his special vertical "diet" . And yes I think thats the way Jones goes again. No way around if you want that much quality muscle for a fight on top of your frame.

This guy is there for some bonus PED regime advice.
 
Tabarnakos said:
Heh

Never understood the point of being built like that. It doesn't look good and most girls i talked to don't find that attractive at all , it's impractical and you have absolute shit cardio and stamina. You are strong sure but that's about it

That's my personal opinion. No offense intended to anyone who is into bodybuilding
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Never understood it either. It’s good to be jacked but this seems a bit obsessive.
 
listrahtes said:
Dont forget the electrolytes and Tribulus Terestris Testo Booster. With them you will manage 100lb of pure muscle. :D


I never ever said he was dumb. Actually I think he is quite competent. But its boring to discuss with you as you obviously have no clue about the professions I talked about. The red flags I meantioned are from his successes with massive steroid abuse and more. Thats his special vertical "diet" . And yes I think thats the way Jones goes again. No way around if you want that much quality muscle for a fight on top of your frame.

This guy is there for some bonus PED regime advice.
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No clue lol you think I haven't met a hundred so called nutritionist and trainers and sports whatever who went to University for kinesiology or some shit and weigh 160lbs and try to give advice? Its worthless you want to know how to get big talk to the big guys. And yes he is absolutely an expert in applied endocrinology. If you want to become a monster he is one of the top experts in the world.
 
Of course Jon Jones hired the most natty guy around. He's gonna build jon jones a custom space age lifting routine and provide him with all of the secrets of his diet, like eating rice and grass fed beef. Maybe he'll sell jon some cold pressed micro filtered whey.
 
Is there some kind of prohibited association clause for USADA?

edit: nvm he’s allowed to work with efferding because efferding is not on that list but c’mon
 
ikite103 said:
I would take advice from a 300lb bodybuilder on how to eat to gain weight over some book read nutritionist all day everyday and twice on Sunday
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training and eating natural is completely different than doing so on ped's.
 
Some real dummies in this thread shitting on Stan's knowledge and methods. Feel free to call up Jackson/Wink and offer your unsolicited expert opinions on why Jon shouldn't be associated with a man who's coached world champions across multiple sports.

Unbelievable.
 
listrahtes said:
I work with strenght trainers in my profession and respect them if they educate themselves with evidence based training approach.
Efferding is managing training load which is not that difficult to do but ok he is right that a lot of mma coaches dont even do that.
BUT and thats a big but. If you coach professional athletes its a huge red flag if your coach uses roids to this amount. Thats an absolute NOGO. I wont condemn him for using in the past. Pro Bodybuilding you have to, end of story but continuing to do so AND coaching young athletes from different sports is fucked up.

That he "developed" his own diet ok Its a marketing tactic I get it but I really hate all this false marketing with his own sucess story when they leave out the roids they ate like cherries. Its dishonest and I would not work with such a coach. The diet itself is ok but basically its what most professionals would advise. The thing is if you are a pro you will always need a specific eating habit that fits your situation and no programm itself does that.

To me this coach puts up several red flags.
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Cry me a river. Who really cares if they use roids anyways. It’s their body not yours.
 
ikite103 said:
Stan was also Mike Tysons strength and conditioning coach

You think Jones is natural lol
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he's not on what that guy is on......he's not on a bodybuilding stack.

but i'm sure you think he is.....
 
Jon’s wife is sending that dude more than just pics of food, that’s for sure.
 
kflo said:
he's not on what that guy is on......he's not on a bodybuilding stack.

but i'm sure you think he is.....
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Serious question, do you really think Stan doesn't/can't differentiate programming between his natural and enhanced clients? I'm genuinely curious. I can't say what extra things are included in Jon's supplements but to think that someone with decades of high level strength training knowledge wouldn't be the right person to tailor an individual program for someone is kind of silly.
 
wufabufa said:
Serious question, do you really think Stan doesn't/can't differentiate programming between his natural and enhanced clients? I'm genuinely curious. I can't say what extra things are included in Jon's supplements but to think that someone with decades of high level strength training knowledge wouldn't be the right person to tailor an individual program for someone is kind of silly.
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i was only responding to the idea that a giant bodybuilder is the best guide to fitness and strength advice for natural athletes. i do think he knows his shit but i don't know that much about him.
 
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