Intentionally prolonged beatdowns?

Hellowhosthat said:
Yeah, but at least pretend you watch it to see who's the better competitor rather than because you want to see people get hurt lol.
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99% of the time that's why I watch it. Just to see who's better and how styles mesh with eachother. Every now and then, in special situations, I want to see people get hurt beyond belief.
 
HHJ said:
If you dont force Aldo to do otherwise,he has a safety first tech style similar to Valentina. Esp to conserve his energy over 5 rds.
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That being true it was still a blatant example of a fighter hurting another fighter continuously and without looking like he wanted a clean kill. It looked like he was delighted to continue hurting Faber for the longest even after he was clearly no longer game. It was beautiful and ugly
 
Kyle Stephens said:
99% of the time that's why I watch it. Just to see who's better and how styles mesh with eachother. Every now and then, in special situations, I want to see people get hurt beyond belief.
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Fair enough, I can't imagine feeling that way personally just because someone seems like a bit of a dick.

Maybe if it was Hermes Franca or Lloyd Irvin or Joe Son or something.
 
Al Stone said:
That being true it was still a blatant example of a fighter hurting another fighter continuously and without looking like he wanted a clean kill. It looked like he was delighted to continue hurting Faber for the longest even after he was clearly no longer game. It was beautiful and ugly
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It was def beautiful and ugly,but i wasnt thinking Aldo sadistic. He was just doing his job. If you dont want to get kicked by Aldo dont fight him.
 
Kyle Stephens said:
don't be lazy, read the whole 3 paragraphs, you goof
With the beatdown of Anthony Smith still fresh in our minds, I'm asking you: do you remember a bad blood fight when the one fighter got to choose to prolong the fight or not, he choose to prolong it just to deliver more damage to his opponent? (It doesn't need to be from UFC.) Jon could not follow up with that feroucious GnP on Cormier in their rematch. Cormier was pushing that hard of a pace, he would be a punching bag in the next rounds regardless of the knockdown. I know that Khabib wanted to punish Conor, for example. And he could, but chose to end the fight. He absolutely could beat him up in the next round and a half.

Because I swear I never saw one single intentionally prolonged beatdown. And it's a shame. Because some of us fans live for this shit. These people hate each other in the guts and when they have the chance to make a statement, 100% of the time they chose to finish their enemy on the spot, instead of beating him up in the course of 3 or 5 rounds. And from experience we know how much, much worse is to slowly beat someone for 15 mins within the inch of his life, than to just choke him or knock him out.

Every prolonged beatdown I saw happened by chance, tho. Some bad ref or corner in combination with a guy that is unable to finish the fight and his opponent is too tough for his own good. And it's ugly because a lot of the times it's unnecessary. There are no story to follow. No bad vs good guy. Usually people who get in these are nice guys that we all love and would like to get to fight another day, not to get maimed. Who wants to see Lionheart fucked up? Or an older example: Gavin Tucker?
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The reasons why you dont see a prolonged beating:
- very few fighters have top cardio. It's hard to punch a guy for 15 minutes, you get tired.
- you might end like Bektic vs The Damage. A beating followed by a KO. You never know
- most of them want to go out of that cage as fast as they can

I agree it is much worse to slowly beat someone.
People think it's harder against a KO artist.
 
HHJ said:
JDS is just too tough for his own good. It was a prolonged beat down but not on purpose. Im sure Cain was thinking "goddamn when is this dude gonna fall down?!?!?"
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I edited my post to add why I thought it was intentional. It happened a bunch of times when he almost finished and then just held him up until he recovered. Check out the later rounds if you ever rewatch it and you might see where I’m coming from.
 
Dionysian said:
I edited my post to add why I thought it was intentional. It happened a bunch of times when he almost finished and then just held him up until he recovered. Check out the later rounds if you ever rewatch it and you might see where I’m coming from.
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Will do. It might be that Cain was tired tho...
 
Pepy said:
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This was because the guy was pretending to be a black belt,and when galvao started to grapple with him,he immediatley saw this wasnt the case and rightfully was angry. Even still,he humilated him but didnt really hurt the guy.
 
HHJ said:
It was def beautiful and ugly,but i wasnt thinking Aldo sadistic. He was just doing his job. If you dont want to get kicked by Aldo dont fight him.
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Yes he did his job but did nothing to minimize unnecessary damage to a cripple. He stuck to hurting Travolta even after it was obvious he could have ended the fight. Squeezed his soul dry and kept squeezing. Kudos to Faber for not letting that thrashing break him as a fighter.
 
Al Stone said:
Not only did he not give him a chance he kept on assaulting him when he could have coasted or I would agree.
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Beautiful stuff.

His corner shoulda pulled Faber outta there.
 
In one of early UFCs a guys tries to tap and Royce holds his hand to land a few more punches
 
HHJ said:
Beautiful stuff.

His corner shoulda pulled Faber outta there.
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That is true. Judging by body language and repeated attacks to the injury I just dont think Aldo had any intention to stop hurting him or put him out of his misery. Only to continue hurting him like a cat with a squirming mouse
 
Al Stone said:
That is true. Judging by body language and repeated attacks to the injury I just dont think Aldo had any intention to stop hurting him or put him out of his misery. Only to continue hurting him like a cat with a squirming mouse
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Thats what he was trained to do. Cant stray from the Way when its working.
 
Kyle Stephens said:
don't be lazy, read the whole 3 paragraphs, you goof
With the beatdown of Anthony Smith still fresh in our minds, I'm asking you: do you remember a bad blood fight when the one fighter got to choose to prolong the fight or not, he choose to prolong it just to deliver more damage to his opponent? (It doesn't need to be from UFC.) Jon could not follow up with that feroucious GnP on Cormier in their rematch. Cormier was pushing that hard of a pace, he would be a punching bag in the next rounds regardless of the knockdown. I know that Khabib wanted to punish Conor, for example. And he could, but chose to end the fight. He absolutely could beat him up in the next round and a half.

Because I swear I never saw one single intentionally prolonged beatdown. And it's a shame. Because some of us fans live for this shit. These people hate each other in the guts and when they have the chance to make a statement, 100% of the time they chose to finish their enemy on the spot, instead of beating him up in the course of 3 or 5 rounds. And from experience we know how much, much worse is to slowly beat someone for 15 mins within the inch of his life, than to just choke him or knock him out.

Every prolonged beatdown I saw happened by chance, tho. Some bad ref or corner in combination with a guy that is unable to finish the fight and his opponent is too tough for his own good. And it's ugly because a lot of the times it's unnecessary. There are no story to follow. No bad vs good guy. Usually people who get in these are nice guys that we all love and would like to get to fight another day, not to get maimed. Who wants to see Lionheart fucked up? Or an older example: Gavin Tucker?
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I don't think it even works like that, in my first fight I told myself 'first round i'm just gonna feel him out, second round im gonna grapple and then last round i'll do some boxing, yeah its gonna be a nice 3 round fight', then the guy bumrushes me and we end up on the ground in 20 seconds, I take his back and I just try to finish it asap, soon as I get it around the neck I squeeze like a motherf*cker, and hold on extra 2 seconds even when he taps, I think you always want to take the finish if you can, even against a weak opponent, no one wants to risk it like that
 
ifindgifsforjackslack said:
Khabib v Trujillo is only example I can think of. Surely khabib could have finished him
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I honestly think that because Trujillo was such an explosive guy,Khabib just let the dude exhaust himself. He had him submitted and then the bell rang,so he just went back to do in what he was doin before. Trujilo had almost no answer to this method.
 
MichaelT said:
I don't think it even works like that, in my first fight I told myself 'first round i'm just gonna feel him out, second round im gonna grapple and then last round i'll do some boxing, yeah its gonna be a nice 3 round fight', then the guy bumrushes me and we end up on the ground in 20 seconds, I take his back and I just try to finish it asap, soon as I get it around the neck I squeeze like a motherf*cker, and hold on extra 2 seconds even when he taps, I think you always want to take the finish if you can, even against a weak opponent, no one wants to risk it like that
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Fair enough. But I was talking about bad blood fights where one opponent had the opportunity to safely prolong the beating of his opponent.

If you feel like your cardio is more than fine and your opponent is dead tired, you could just hit him hard enough to damage him, but light enough for him to be able to show intelligent defence and for ref not to stop it. I'm sure it's doable.
 
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