To be fair I don’t believe at any point Rob Mafia ever expressly made the claim that Intel was going to go out of business.
i never said they're going out of business, that was one of
@Madmick 's many (many... MANY) strawmen. and i even pointed out that if i knew when that day was, it would be worth gazillions and i sure as shit wouldn't post it. i did suspect they're going to have to divest their fabs (and they are... selling half to brookfield) and/or make other sacrifices.
i said they're fucked. and since... they sacked their entire management, cratered their stock/market cap (got rekt while the entire sector soared... and then got further rekt when the sector tanked), lost their rockstar engineer, begged for govt handouts from numerous countries, made NEW grandiose claims that x will get them back on track in design and y will give them the best fab/idm 2.0, tried to buy a idm (
step 1 to having a successful idm... buy a successful idm [tower] ), had the buy stall, became a customer of the fab they're pretending they're going to beat (tsmc), sold off mobileye for peanuts, and now admit to being in the red for many years (seems to keep increasing each time). ffs, they got the chips act... and then announced fucktons of layoffs. and now with yet ANOTHER delay in the works... and shit, ponte vecchio/aurora STILL hasn't been delivered. that shit's older than this thread. eg, they were absolutely fucked. and... they still are, even. i thought patty might actually be able to turn shit around, but sincea while ago, i think he's just an attention whoring snake oil salesman. (and he's now trying to strongarm the eu for more $ to build the fabs they already announced)
ffs, i even called when it was time to finally short intc (when they ceased the buybacks that were propping up the sp [to line their execs with bonus $], and basically the point of the thread [absolutely egregious buybacks... again, some $200B wasted... that were not capable of fixing their fabs problems) - and was dead-on about that, too. once their buybacks ceased, the sp got destroyed.
and madmick knows he's been rekt and he knew it for about 2 years now. hence, why he hasn't refuted one thing i said... and tried to turn this from being about a company to 'hurr durr, they're capturing the budget client market while undercutting themselves' - as if that's what this thread was about... or that worse margins are somehow good for them. peb's just an idiot who seriously seems to be infatuated with patty.
you'd have to be a complete clown to think intel's been fine.
the mods (
plural) here are reallllly insecure and seem to feel a need to have the posters believe they're the masters of this shit or something. hence, alllllll the related bullshit (i'm banned from the big active threads here, sooooooo many posts/threads were deleted... including in the support section, asking why they were deleted). all the passive-aggressive shit like refusing to tag
@jefferz , and all the moved goalposts and strawmen that littered this thread (and the others), while fuck all has been refuted.
ffs, he even posted polling the forum to let them decide... and then deleted that, too.