Tech "intel's f-----"

[PEB]

for starters, yeah - patty's a greedy ceo, too. but OBVIOUSLY, i was referring to his predecessors, hence this thread existing while patty was committing securities fraud with vmware.

hence, why the line about greedy CEOs mentioned $15-20B/year in buybacks and etc, signaling the timeline rather clearly. congrats on yet another derp, though. dat reading comprehension.

What you think of the top level raptor lake running an clocks upto 6 ghz stock. Or claims of 6.6 ghz on regular liquid cooling. It's base performance numbers seem to match or exceed AMD top dog version of the 7000 series. AMD cannot be happy Lisa calling her managers in to discuss this issue no doubt.

 

[rob mafia]

What you think of the top level raptor lake running an clocks upto 6 ghz stock. Or claims of 6.6 ghz on regular liquid cooling. It's base performance numbers seem to match or exceed AMD top dog version of the 7000 series. AMD cannot be happy Lisa calling her managers in to discuss this issue no doubt.

yeah, i really don't think they care. if you haven't noticed (and like i said already), amd's focus is hpc and efficiency. i'm sure they're just fine with letting intel have the high end space heater market.

 

[PEB]

yeah, i really don't think they care. if you haven't noticed (and like i said already), amd's focus is hpc and efficiency. i'm sure they're just fine with letting intel have the high end space heater market.

Apparently the newest AMD EPIC/Instinct chipset is a nightmare of problems with interfacing to the slingshot interconnects and no one at AMD seems to understand the issue. Seems like AMD and their hardware partner HPE just wanted to get out ahead of the performance game with the fastest supercomputer in the world without thoroughly testing and hardware qualifying their subsystems to insure hardware compatibility and bus timings. This could cost them many millions of dollars to resolve this issue and seeing there are so few Instinct chips in use makes the issue even more complex not much to look back on. But go on about how much Intel is sinking and this is common with AMD they use the customers as test beds.

https://wccftech.com/all-amd-powere...running-into-issues-ever-since-it-powered-on/

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AMD MI250X compute GPUs & HPE's Slingshot interconnects could be behind the issues surrounding the Frontier supercomputer's failing performance and conflicts"

 

[rob mafia]

this is common with AMD they use the customers as test beds.

says the one spamming every article/video about arc ever.

and lolz @ not even reading the crap you spam

First, the Slingshot interconnects, the network created for HPE Cray supercomputers, conflicts with the HPE clusters. Unfortunately, the specificity of the exact issue is unknown. Secondly, the AMD Instinct MI250X compute GPUs and the EPYC Trento CPUs are rumored to conflict with the Slingshot interconnects. Again, no official word has come from the project leads or researchers of the ORNL Frontier supercomputer.

also, the article is shit and just regurgitates toms (par with wccf, really)

 

[PEB]

says the one spamming every article/video about arc ever.

and lolz @ not even reading the crap you spam



also, the article is shit and just regurgitates toms (par with wccf, really)

Maybe this one's better
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/...ering-daily-hardware-failures-during-testing/

Or this one?
https://insidehpc.com/2022/10/frontier-testing-and-tuning-problems-downplayed-by-oak-ridge/
It's covered with issues that could take some time to address.

 

[rob mafia]

Maybe this one's better
https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/...ering-daily-hardware-failures-during-testing/

Or this one?
https://insidehpc.com/2022/10/frontier-testing-and-tuning-problems-downplayed-by-oak-ridge/
It's covered with issues that could take some time to address.

you know that hpe isn't amd, right?

and this is a bizarre attempt at shit-talking, to begin with... considering how many YEARS late aurora is. and with arc being dumped on the consumer market (re: "test beds")

 

[PEB]

you know that hpe isn't amd, right?

and this is a bizarre attempt at shit-talking, to begin with... considering how many YEARS late aurora is. and with arc being dumped on the consumer market (re: "test beds")

You think only HP is dealing with these issues? Most of the work getting these EPIC machines running is based on AMD provided designs. I worked on high end storage systems when they specifically talk about AMD being unable to work with the slingshot interconnect that is already in use in other systems tells a lot about signal and hardware issues tied to AMD. I am not getting back into a debate again leave that for someone else to deal with there is no way to change your mind.

 

[rob mafia]

You think only HP is dealing with these issues?

*facepalm*

slingshot is hpe, einstein. and no, i think many are dealing with it. no idea what you think your point is. your reading comprehension is potato and you're blinded by patty's balls dangling off your chin.

I am not getting back into a debate again

then what the fuck am i reading? you can't even get THIS right.

there is no way to change your mind.

holy fucking hypocrisy








be peb. post dumb shit about hpe, thinking it's amd, in a thread about intel. 0/3

 

[rob mafia]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-thousands-of-job-cuts-in-face-of-pc-slowdown

tax dollars well spent

 

[KaNesDeath]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-thousands-of-job-cuts-in-face-of-pc-slowdown

tax dollars well spent

AMD also came in under their projected quarterly earnings. In fact the entire Pc hardware industry reported decrease in projected profits.

The boom that happened because of Corona is over.

 

[rob mafia]

AMD also came in under their projected quarterly earnings. In fact the entire Pc hardware industry reported decrease in projected profits.

The boom that happened because of Corona is over.

no idea why you said "also," as what i posted was about mass layoffs incoming at intel, and not guidance misses across the sector.

 

[rob mafia]

intel's been so walloped (mostly by themselves) that they (intel) expect to get rekt til 2026, they've been literally begging govts for money, and they're spinning off their crown jewel... and now for a 40% cut (mobileye ipo delayed, valuation cut to $30B from 50). after spinning off 49% of a new fab to brookfield. they're operating in the red and will be for years.

now cut from $50B to <20.



https://www.wsj.com/articles/intel-...valuation-in-ipo-of-mobileye-unit-11666037700

 

[PEB]

Going to be buying flowers for Intel's grave.
13600 lower end vs the mighty 7950X

 

[rob mafia]

Going to be buying flowers for Intel's grave.
13600 lower end vs the mighty 7950X

meanwhile, the entire client segment has crashed for all companies. also, like i said, amd is content with letting intel have the space heater market. also, you said you were done like 433 times.

also, the 3Ds are out in january.

but yeah, aside from all of this, it's great for intel. wait.

 

[Madmick]

meanwhile, the entire client segment has crashed for all companies. also, like i said, amd is content with letting intel have the space heater market. also, you said you were done like 433 times.

also, the 3Ds are out in january.

but yeah, aside from all of this, it's great for intel. wait.

The 13600K draws less power than the 7950X (or the 7900X). It has better thermal performance than both the 7700X and 7600X, and is also beating both in performance per watt in gaming.

But carry on with your ignorance.

 

[rob mafia]

The 13600K draws less power than the 7950X

protip: a mid-range cpu is SUPPOSED TO draw less power than a top end.

lolz @ calling anyone ignorant after getting rekt on this subject for 3 years straight.

 

[Madmick]

protip: a mid-range cpu is SUPPOSED TO draw less power than a top end.

Is a mid-end CPU supposed to be outperformed in thermals and PPW than its mid-end counterpart, too? Perhaps you'd prefer to continue ignoring the pertinent part of that post which illuminated your ignorance.

lolz @ calling anyone ignorant after getting rekt on this subject for 3 years straight.

Oh, so Intel went out of business, then? I missed that headline.

 

[rob mafia]

Oh, so Intel went out of business, then? I missed that headline.

because that's what i said, right? you keep trying to strawman that shit in.

intel merely lost a few hundred billion dollars, had to beg for govt backing/taxpayer $, and is now selling off units for pennies on the dollar... while their own projections put them being in the red for the next 5 years... and now with mass layoffs that might not go over well with patty's buddy who's been campaigning on jobs. in other words, like i said, they're fucked.

meanwhile, you're praising a low margin part in a dead segment. ffs, man. yeah, the 13600 will turn everything around! better cancel that mobileye spinoff! intel's going to be swimming in the tens of dollars!

 

[PEB]

because that's what i said, right? you keep trying to strawman that shit in.

intel merely lost a few hundred billion dollars,

LOL you have completely lost it few hundred billion dollars? Please stop I could not troll you as hard as you troll yourself.

Rob this is you.

Intel took to the forefront getting the US to see the problem and now people from Micron, IBM, Intel heck even Nvidia are considering ether building or partnering to build new factories in the US. Micron alone plans on investing upwards of 100 billion dollars for new factories in addition to Intel and IBM all planning new efforts in increasing manufacturing in these key areas. Everything in play including new processes in making high temp. quantum computer chips, 2nm process chips and even companies may be on the brink of adding new partners with IBM to make new EUV machines. While Rob continues to chasing his tail with the same old line. Intel not going anywhere anytime soon and will continue to produce leading designs.

 

[Madmick]

because that's what i said, right? you keep trying to strawman that shit in.

intel merely lost a few hundred billion dollars, had to beg for govt backing/taxpayer $, and is now selling off units for pennies on the dollar... while their own projections put them being in the red for the next 5 years... and now with mass layoffs that might not go over well with patty's buddy who's been campaigning on jobs. in other words, like i said, they're fucked.

meanwhile, you're praising a low margin part in a dead segment. ffs, man. yeah, the 13600 will turn everything around! better cancel that mobileye spinoff! intel's going to be swimming in the tens of dollars!

Whining about strawmen...he points out that Intel just took the gaming CPU crown back, so you make a snide remark about space heaters. Except, that doesn't make sense, because AMD is running their CPUs to the thermal limit, too. Both boil. Maybe you should have made a comment about power draw, or power scaling, but that would require knowledge you don't possess. And when the 13600K's remarkable performance value is mentioned, you retreat to whining about an unfair comparison to the 7950X, when it's superior thermals and performance per watt were mentioned in comparison to its midrange counterparts. It also offers superior performance per dollar in relation to these, and has more flexibility regarding platform for all (DDR4 or DDR5, iGPU or no iGPU).

Nobody needs a strawman. If we're going to oversimplify, that's the state of things. At the top, Intel has the best. At the mid-end, Intel has the best.