Tech "intel's f-----"

cash? gone
debt? lots... and increasing fast
management? cleaned house
tsmc? intel's a customer, instead of a rival
keller? left
mobileye - being sold
margins? down... and shrinking

only semiconducter company to lose from the thread start to now... while their competitors gained bigly. ffs, amd is on the verge of being bigger than intel.

but what did i know, amirite?

<Dany07>
{<jordan}
 
12400F: $160
5600X: $240

<21>
80 bucks a lot to you?

Shit with as much extra energy the intel chip draws you will pay more than that in its life span. Anyways I would still take the amd chip if 1440+gaming was my primary use for the system. The AMD chips run much much cooler and that stresses your system so much less than the intel ones.
 
80 bucks a lot to you?

Shit with as much extra energy the intel chip draws you will pay more than that in its life span. Anyways I would still take the amd chip if 1440+gaming was my primary use for the system. The AMD chips run much much cooler and that stresses your system so much less than the intel ones.
https://pcmasterrace.org/builds

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I thought the power consumption was basically a myth, since it never reaches peak usage in practical applications and uses the same or less power over time as other competing chips?
 
I thought the power consumption was basically a myth, since it never reaches peak usage in practical applications and uses the same or less power over time as other competing chips?
It is. I already explained this to him twice. Alder Lake actually runs significantly cooler than Zen 3 in gaming loads, and as PC Gamer found, it draws less power, although that's moot, because almost all the power is drawn by the GPU, anyway. He continually repeats his ignorance that Alder Lake runs scorching hot or guzzles power because, first, he is incapable of comprehending more abstruse charts, and second, he doesn't care even after he's enlightened to the truth by those who can, he's all chips in on this ridiculous assertion that Intel is going under.
Put down your pitchforks: Intel’s 12th-gen CPUs aren’t power hogs
Stop screaming that Alder Lake is a power hog. It's not.
 
It is. I already explained this to him twice. Alder Lake actually runs significantly cooler than Zen 3 in gaming loads, and as PC Gamer found, it draws less power, although that's moot, because almost all the power is drawn by the GPU, anyway. He continually repeats his ignorance that Alder Lake runs scorching hot or guzzles power because, first, he is incapable of comprehending more abstruse charts, and second, he doesn't care even after he's enlightened to the truth by those who can, he's all chips in on this ridiculous assertion that Intel is going under.
Put down your pitchforks: Intel’s 12th-gen CPUs aren’t power hogs
Stop screaming that Alder Lake is a power hog. It's not.

lolz, even the pc world's data/etc doesn't really agree with their title and conclusion.

ffs, "While that can be true, especially under heavy all-core loads" to "In the end, you can certainly say that Ryzen can be a more power-efficient CPU under the heaviest of loads than rival Intel 12-gen chips—that’s of no doubt"

stop saying this truthful thing! they're not always power hogs! sometimes, they're turned off!

<{outtahere}>
 
Here we go. Can't even accept Gordon's plain language summarizing his investigation.

Even NeoGAF has caught on.
Alder Lake Gaming Efficiency Tested. The Most Efficient Gaming Architecture.
Leonidas of NEOGAF Forums said:
Good to see a place testing gaming power consumption.

Alder Lake has lower watts per frame than Zen3 in gaming. An Alder Lake CPU is topping these charts for gaming efficiency most of the time. The only Zen3 CPUs that come close to Alder Lake in terms of gaming efficiency are the 5600x & 5800x, while the high core count Zen3 CPUs have gaming efficiency closer to Rocket Lake...

Looks like Alder Lake is not only the fastest gaming CPU architecture, but also the most efficient CPU for gaming.
Second source from the above:
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hey, look - goalposts narrowed to just gaming again.
<TrumpWrong1>
In fact, you are the one who has mocked Alder Lake earlier in this very thread specifically when comparing gaming CPUs, and the matter of value in budget builds. This arose as a result of your deriding @PEB's recent build. There is no possible reading where you can pretend you made the following comment within the context of servers:
lolz @ bringing up value, though - yeah, they're a great value and only eat like double the wattage. oh. well, whatever. i'm sure all the budget builds that want to pay premiums for new mobos/ram (and a cooler or 20?) will be excited to have a not really budget build.

and i suspect your timing is hilarious, as usual...
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<TrumpWrong1>
In fact, you are the one who has mocked Alder Lake earlier in this very thread specifically when comparing gaming CPUs, and the matter of value in budget builds. This arose as a result of your deriding @PEB's recent build. There is no possible reading where you can pretend you made the following comment within the context of servers:

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lolz @ going from heavy loads with 5600x, 5800x, and 5950x... in your own source...

and then attempting a server gotcha.

yeah, brah. servers everywhere are running 5600Xs!

<{anton}>
 
Intel going bankrupt tomorrow.

{<jordan}

Intel Corp. agreed to buy Israeli chip company Tower Semiconductor Ltd. for nearly $6 billion, bolstering a plan to make more chips for other companies.

Intel said early Tuesday that it would acquire Tower for $53 a share. That is a 60% premium to Tower’s closing share price of $33.13 on Nasdaq Monday, before The Wall Street Journal reported on the deal.

Tower makes semiconductors and circuits used in everything from cars and consumer products to medical and industrial equipment.

It operates manufacturing facilities in Israel, California, Texas and Japan, according to its website. The company is based in Migdal HaEmek, in northern Israel near Nazareth.
 
Intel going bankrupt tomorrow.

{<jordan}

Intel Corp. agreed to buy Israeli chip company Tower Semiconductor Ltd. for nearly $6 billion, bolstering a plan to make more chips for other companies.

Intel said early Tuesday that it would acquire Tower for $53 a share. That is a 60% premium to Tower’s closing share price of $33.13 on Nasdaq Monday, before The Wall Street Journal reported on the deal.

Tower makes semiconductors and circuits used in everything from cars and consumer products to medical and industrial equipment.

It operates manufacturing facilities in Israel, California, Texas and Japan, according to its website. The company is based in Migdal HaEmek, in northern Israel near Nazareth.


how to have a successful IDM company:

step 1 - buy a successful IDM company

{<jordan}
 
Obviously a company on deaths door wants to end their life by spending 6 billion dollars.

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they're already deep in the hole and rates are only going higher... this actually makes sense. especially since they're getting handouts (and presumably bailouts).

lolz @ attempting to pump a tiny acquisition, though (seriously, $5B? this... is trivial). and on the day amd closed xilinx...

<JagsKiddingMe>
 
as of a couple minutes ago, amd is now bigger than intel.

~197B vs 196B
 
they're already deep in the hole and rates are only going higher... this actually makes sense. especially since they're getting handouts (and presumably bailouts).

lolz @ attempting to pump a tiny acquisition, though (seriously, $5B? this... is trivial). and on the day amd closed xilinx...

<JagsKiddingMe>
See meme above "I remember in 2011 when AMD that everyone claimed was on deaths door" at 1.75 a share Intel far far away from that state. Yet they are already turning the ship an their business is turning into a 3rd party supplier an have tons of patents on key technologies. So please stop lol.
 
See meme above "I remember in 2011 when AMD that everyone claimed was on deaths door" at 1.75 a share Intel far far away from that state. Yet they are already turning the ship an their business is turning into a 3rd party supplier an have tons of patents on key technologies. So please stop lol.

amd innovated and streamlined instead of blowing ~$200B into lining their pockets.

lolz @ "turning into a 3rd party supplier" by buying a small 3rd party supplier.

cope.
 
I have heard of cat fights between Sony and Microsoft fanboys, but cat fights between Intel and AMD fanboys? There are actually fanboys of CPUs?
 
amd innovated and streamlined instead of blowing ~$200B into lining their pockets.

lolz @ "turning into a 3rd party supplier" by buying a small 3rd party supplier.

cope.
You're pretty clueless are you not? Intel has worked with people like IBM, GlobalFoundries, Samsung and heck even AMD. AMD was almost dead in the water during their time developing NexGen chip Intel could have killed them at that time but knowing how the Government would have reacted they thrown them a lifeline. You act like Intel some small upstart that cannot compete with the big boys lol please.

Heck AMD did not even design their own X86 design instead was licensed to manufacture X86 chips for Intel "That's interesting lol". It wasn't till they acquired a little known upstart NextGen did they get a chip that could run X86 microcode via hardware emulation on the chip. They had their work cut out for them but they where much further along then anyone else in making that work.

So please understand Intel will not be out of this for long they have over 50 years of patents and technology to make this work.

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NexGen (Milpitas, California) was a private semiconductor company that designed x86 microprocessors until it was purchased by AMD in 1996.[1] NexGen was a fabless design house that designed its chips but relied on other companies for production. NexGen's chips were produced by IBM's Microelectronics division.

The company was best known for the unique implementation of the x86 architecture in its processors. NexGen's CPUs were designed very differently from other processors based on the x86 instruction set at the time: the processor would translate code designed to run on the traditionally CISC-based x86 architecture to run on the chip's internal RISC architecture.[2] The architecture was used in later AMD chips such as the K6, and to an extent most x86 processors today implement a "hybrid" architecture similar to those used in NexGen's processors.

It went public in 1994, and was bought by AMD in 1995 for $850M. The technology forms the platform architecture for all of AMD’s current microprocessors. It was an unusual start-up in its time as the original funding came from corporate investors, Compaq and Olivetti, joined in a later round by venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins."
 
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