In ONE FC successfully defending a takedown counts for scoring should the UFC follow suit?

You should lose points for three or more failed takedowns because you are wasting everyone's time.
 
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UFC has the premium ruleset, the other one is a gimmick, they have to make rules to claim the fight is hardcore but it never is
 
Söze Aldo said:
Nah, knees to the head of grounded opponents is dope and the UFC actually followed suit with finally allowing 12-6 elbows, which ONE likewise never banned.
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but with Rei Tsuraya's performance at 313, I think these rules are to make the fighter work, rather than being like a pride
 
Only Here for Attachments said:
Holding someone down on the mat or up against the cage shouldn't count as anything in the first place. Stalemating a fight ≠ winning.
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Pretty much what I was going to say. I don't think defending TD's should grant a point but at the same time if you wall and stall a guy for 4:50 minutes and he lands ONE good punch outside of that, give it to him.
Pitter patter arm punches in the clinch don't count.
 
Apparently, according to some fans, you dont have to bother learning how to get off the fence. Just stay there and do nothing, as long as you dont get taken down you win lol
 
HHJ said:
Apparently, according to some fans, you dont have to bother learning how to get off the fence. Just stay there and do nothing, as long as you dont get taken down you win lol
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I like a good grappling exchange but wall and stall is probably the worst aspect of MMA.

The guy doing the pushing against the cage will always have the advantage using that artificial barrier to their benefit.

The only reason wall fighting even exists is because the UFC in '93 thought a cage would look more bad ass than a ring or open mat, that's it.

Pure grappling arts like Judo, BJJ, Sambo, wrestling etc. don't have to worry about cage grinding because it's dumb.

I think the Karate Combat style pit would actually be ideal for MMA.
 
Söze Aldo said:
That would be ideal but there does seem to be a scoring or judging bias that always goes to the guy holding the other guy against the cage vs the guy succesfuly preventing that takedown.

The Aldo vs Merab fight was a huge example of that.
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thats how it should be!

the fans dont like it, but that's on Aldo for getting stifled.

that isnt a bias, thats literally how it should be. You should never let someone do that to you. It sucks for th fans, but there is no way they should change the rules to give the fight to Aldo for allowing himself to get grapplefucked. Fuck that!
 
Söze Aldo said:
I like a good grappling exchange but wall and stall is probably the worst aspect of MMA.

The guy doing the pushing against the cage will always have the advantage using that artificial barrier to their benefit.
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Like anything, train to not let that happen, instead of "oh this sucks, oh well"
 
Would you rather be the person defending a takedown all fight or the one attempting the takedown and putting the other person in a position they don't choose to be in?
 
HHJ said:
thats how it should be!

the fans dont like it, but that's on Aldo for getting stifled.

that isnt a bias, thats literally how it should be. You should never let someone do that to you. It sucks for th fans, but there is no way they should change the rules to give the fight to Aldo for allowing himself to get grapplefucked. Fuck that!
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Why should it be like that? You didn't really explain that at all.

Restraining someone isn't fighting someone.
 
HHJ said:
Allowing yourself to be restrained is worse.
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It should be viewed as equal. The guy pushing and holding against the cage means they aren't able to get the takedown they want.

Even in most BJJ comps now you get penalized for stalling and holding someone and not looking to advance position.
 
Söze Aldo said:
It should be viewed as equal. The guy pushing and holding against the cage means they aren't able to get the takedown they want.

Even in BJJ now you get penalized for stalling and only holding someone and not advancing position.
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they are still doing something while the other guy is unable to do anything
 
Failed takedowns and control don't count according to the unified rules. If a judge counts them, they're not going by the rules. That's a judge problem, not a rules problem.

But it's all irrelevant in this case. Ankalaev outstruck Pereira.
 
by that logic, then shouldn't parrying/blocking a strike get u points too?

better just not throw strikes at all then unless you are 9001% sure it will land, or else it's gonna backfire on you. Maybe you can win a fight by never throwing a single attack of any way shape or form the the entire fight and just block n parry all incoming shots and stuff takedowns and then win from scores racked up just being on the defense, not doing jack shit offensively
 
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