In ONE FC successfully defending a takedown counts for scoring should the UFC follow suit?

[VinceArch]

Nah, it doesn't make sense.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

A successful takedown on it's own doesn't count for scoring under the unified rules. The primary scoring criterion is based on the impact of legal striking and grappling, and impact "includes visible evidence such as swelling and lacerations. Impact shall also be assessed when a fighter’s actions, using striking and/or grappling, lead to a diminishing of their opponent’s energy, confidence, abilities and spirit." A takedown that an opponent gets right up from or a takedown at the end of a round that doesn't result in an injury has no impact and does not score under the rules.

Perhaps they've changed the criteria in recent years, but I've been pretty studied on teh roolz up through a couple years ago when I lost track of their updates. I've also followed teh evolution of teh roolz since teh beginning, listened to many discussions with Big John who was instrumental in making teh roolz.

Specifically teh Unified Roolz used to read, "It shall be noted that a successful takedown is not merely a changing of position, but the establishment of an attack from the use of the takedown." - IOW... A TD is considered a scoreable attack.

It's highly scored as "Effective Grappling." Interestingly, if you're on the top, & you move from their guard to their half guard, or to side control, it's also a scoring criteria, but at that point, you have to capitalize on it to get the credit.... if only to land a light punch. That light punch is then scored higher than it would've otherwise been without the change in position.

To your point, it's not scored nearly as high as a submission attempt that threatens the end of the fight, but I've always counted a TD to be on the level of a decent strike.

 

[BowserJr]

That would reward not taking action. Reward not being aggressive. You could bait single legs, defend it and then win the fight.

How can you say someone was beaten because their opponent defended takedowns.

The argument for takedowns with no follow up is that it dictates where the fight happens. My that standard tdd does the same.

IMO a takedown with no substantial follow up should be nothing and tdd should be nothing.

IMO both are defensive or a stalemate at best. Same for wall n stall.

In a nutshell if there is a takedown with no follow up or wall n stall its a defensive move like clinching and holding in boxing

 

[HHJ]

DEFENSIVE FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIP

 

[HHJ]

This is MMA, ya gotta let a wrestler, wrestle a bit.