I'm worried for our boy Mike Perry...

[BluntForceTrama]

I thought Perry was going to be undersized in this fight, but after seeing him in the face off I think he is on par if not bigger, from a muscular standpoint. He isn’t the most technical but he has that dog in him that many others don’t. If the fight isn’t fixed I can see Perry pulling away in the later rounds. I guess we will see.

if you saw the faceoff talk at DnB Paul basicslly accused Perry of PEDs and Perry all but admitted w a wry smile

No testing LOL


on like donkey kong

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Boxing isn't MMA. That's the thing.

There's levels to it and a massive gap between even amateur / low level pros and most MMA fighters.

Perry has that dog in him, but Jake is better technically, defensively, better fight IQ, more versatile, probably more raw power as well. And from what I've seen, Jake is a fighter as well.

Not someone who's afraid to get hit or any of that, he's got the spirit of a fighter.

Overall, people just underestimate him because his name is Jake Paul, so very few actually bother to analyze his boxing objectively. The kid has more potential than most people realize.

Even tank said he was decent. Very few if any fighters are talking shit, only the fans really.

There's just levels to it. Jake got the better of him years ago in sparring and he's only gotten better.

Barring a freak, hail Mary knockout, I think Jake makes it look very easy.

Logan would've been a bit more interesting competitively, but I would've taken Logan too. Perry just isn't a great boxer and his poor habits technically and defensively are just going to be very easy to take advantage of.

Pure boxing is a different game. What Perry has faced in bare knuckle simply doesn't compare to someone who's trained as a pure boxer on even a lower level of the sport.

It's apples and oranges.

By all accounts Perry is a different animal in bare knuckle. Ill deduce boxing is closer to Bare knuckle

lol



also people underestimate Paul because he prefers fighting people where he perceives to have an advantage

He misjudged this one

The fact he signed Tyson a few months afer tomorrow night shows too much of his hand.....Things rarely work out to plan like this

 

[Rio Ferdinand]

Perry already has CTE so its all good. He don't got too many brain cells to begin with anyways.

The man is born to fight.

 

[AstralPanda]

By all accounts Perry is a different animal in bare knuckle. Ill deduce boxing is closer to Bare knuckle

lol



also people underestimate Paul because he prefers fighting people where he perceives to have an advantage

He misjudged this one

The fact he signed Tyson a few months afer tomorrow night shows too much of his hand.....Things rarely work out to plan like this

They booked him against Woodley in his 3rd fight, that fight was basically a draw. After like 2 years of training.

Tried to make Tommy fury in his 5th fight, then Hasim Rahman shortly after.

None of those fights are gimmes, at the time they were made. If they were actively looking for the easiest fights, the route they went certainly wasn't smart.

Even Anderson Silva or Diaz, they may be older, but that's still Anderson Silva and Nate Diaz. It's not as if you can just roll up off the couch and win those fights.

People just seem to study wikipedia though, I see very few people actually breaking down his skillset, just a lot of Cherry picking and harping about who he's fighting. Basically twisting things to make him look as bad as possible, while ignoring how green he is in the sport.

Most pros fight cab drivers for their first 15 fights or so, but somehow we hold Jake Paul to a higher standard than even current top boxing stars.

He's an influencer, people are too snake charmed by his name and polarizing status, that's why he's underrated. Anyone who is unaffected by his name, generally gives him his due.


Boxing isn't bare knuckle. There's a ton of amateur boxers who could go into bare knuckle and clean house without even breaking a sweat.

There's levels to it.

A lot of people don't understand just how much farther ahead pure boxing is than what you see in bare knuckle or MMA.

 

[nonoob]

No worries. Platinum is BKFC awesome, Jake will NEVER fight him there.

Perry's a savage fighter, but he's never been full-time dedicated to only boxing.

Jake has specifically trained Pro Boxing for years. He should win this fairly easily.

War Platinum! We're pullin' for ya...just keep that chin tucked away from his right hand.

​

 

[JakePaulMMA]

Average Jake Paul hater before the fight: It's over for Jake because X would never take a dive.
After the fight: It's rigged as always!

Jake Paul 4 Prez

 

[BluntForceTrama]

They booked him against Woodley in his 3rd fight, that fight was basically a draw. After like 2 years of training.

Tried to make Tommy fury in his 5th fight, then Hasim Rahman shortly after.

None of those fights are gimmes, at the time they were made. If they were actively looking for the easiest fights, the route they went certainly wasn't smart.

Even Anderson Silva or Diaz, they may be older, but that's still Anderson Silva and Nate Diaz. It's not as if you can just roll up off the couch and win those fights.

People just seem to study wikipedia though, I see very few people actually breaking down his skillset, just a lot of Cherry picking and harping about who he's fighting. Basically twisting things to make him look as bad as possible, while ignoring how green he is in the sport.

Most pros fight cab drivers for their first 15 fights or so, but somehow we hold Jake Paul to a higher standard than even current top boxing stars.

He's an influencer, people are too snake charmed by his name and polarizing status, that's why he's underrated. Anyone who is unaffected by his name, generally gives him his due.


Boxing isn't bare knuckle. There's a ton of amateur boxers who could go into bare knuckle and clean house without even breaking a sweat.

There's levels to it.

A lot of people don't understand just how much farther ahead pure boxing is than what you see in bare knuckle or MMA.

Youre making Paul seem better or more prolific than he really is

How can you base analysis on someone whos had clear advantages over every fight hes cherry picked himself? He lost to a shit boxer in Tommy Fury cmon you know that was a joke

 

[AstralPanda]

Youre making Paul seem better or more prolific than he really is

How can you base analysis on someone whos had clear advantages over every fight hes cherry picked himself? He lost to a shit boxer in Tommy Fury cmon you know that was a joke

Analyzing technique, defense, mindset, feet, hips, head movement, power, heart, etc.

There's a lot you can figure out about someone.

Tommy Fury has been boxing for 20 years. Not sure why he's a shit boxer in your mind. He's a good boxer. He's shit if we compare him to anyone in the upper echelon.

But then, why would we be analyzing him by that standard anyways?

How can we , on the one hand call Tommy Fury shit, who is WORLDS better than Mike Perry as a boxer.

While simultaneously being utterly confident that Mike Perry has the better hands and smokes Jake. There's very little boxing iq behind these statements.

This is exactly what I mean. When it comes to anything Jake Paul, all rationality and reason goes out the window. People are just too hot and bothered by his name to be objective.

People are invested in making anyone Jake Paul has ever fought look bad and there's very little actual analysis on a technical level taking place beyond it.

Unless you've actually boxed or are an avid fan of boxing, then the levels between the two sports isn't really going to be something that can be grasped as an mma fan.

 

[AstralPanda]

Youre making Paul seem better or more prolific than he really is

How can you base analysis on someone whos had clear advantages over every fight hes cherry picked himself? He lost to a shit boxer in Tommy Fury cmon you know that was a joke

This is what Tyson Fury said about Jake

> "I think [Paul is] a decent boxer. A lot of people think he's just a YouTube person who doesn't know how to box but I've actually seen him training and I've actually seen his fights and I think he's decent," Fury told Sky Sports.

>"He's like a novice professional. He's only had six fights so he's exactly as good as he should be at this stage. He's not an Olympic boxer but then again neither am I."

Even tank, who Is basically the face of boxing right now said he's decent.

People who think he cant box seem like they're primarily mma fans or people who don't really follow the sport of boxing to begin with.

Jake is as good as you'd expect a boxer to be who's been training for as long as he has.

And it can't be stated enough, MMA for the most part isn't anywhere near even this moderate level of boxing.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Analyzing technique, defense, mindset, feet, hips, head movement, power, heart, etc.

There's a lot you can figure out about someone.

Tommy Fury has been boxing for 20 years. Not sure why he's a shit boxer in your mind. He's a good boxer. He's shit if we compare him to anyone in the upper echelon.

But then, why would we be analyzing him by that standard anyways?

How can we , on the one hand call Tommy Fury shit, who is WORLDS better than Mike Perry as a boxer.

While simultaneously being utterly confident that Mike Perry has the better hands and smokes Jake. There's very little boxing iq behind these statements.

This is exactly what I mean. When it comes to anything Jake Paul, all rationality and reason goes out the window. People are just too hot and bothered by his name to be objective.

People are invested in making anyone Jake Paul has ever fought look bad and there's very little actual analysis on a technical level taking place beyond it.

Unless you've actually bored or are an avid fan of boxing, then the levels between the two sports isn't really going to be something that can be grasped as an mma fan.

I have Perrys heart heavily weighted in my analysis

The size difference isnt as big as people think and its clear Pauls eating more than hes training. I have no doubt Perrys on something

Jake will not know what to do with this savage once he realizes it

Just about every guy Perry has fought bare knuckle has said similarly Perry is a fukin savage and I dont respect Paul as much as you do .

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Analyzing technique, defense, mindset, feet, hips, head movement, power, heart, etc.

There's a lot you can figure out about someone.

Tommy Fury has been boxing for 20 years. Not sure why he's a shit boxer in your mind. He's a good boxer. He's shit if we compare him to anyone in the upper echelon.

But then, why would we be analyzing him by that standard anyways?

How can we , on the one hand call Tommy Fury shit, who is WORLDS better than Mike Perry as a boxer.

While simultaneously being utterly confident that Mike Perry has the better hands and smokes Jake. There's very little boxing iq behind these statements.

This is exactly what I mean. When it comes to anything Jake Paul, all rationality and reason goes out the window. People are just too hot and bothered by his name to be objective.

People are invested in making anyone Jake Paul has ever fought look bad and there's very little actual analysis on a technical level taking place beyond it.

Unless you've actually boxed or are an avid fan of boxing, then the levels between the two sports isn't really going to be something that can be grasped as an mma fan.

Dude... Hes not fighting legit opponents

Im perplexed how you throw out armchair IQs when youre analysis is based on an unproven circus side show
Pleaaaase

 

[AstralPanda]

Dude... Hes not fighting legit opponents

Im perplexed how you throw out armchair IQs when youre analysis is based on an unproven circus side show
Pleaaaase

You can learn a lot by someone just from watching them train and fight. If you know how to analyze fighters, their skillset, potential, rate of growth trajectory

Then you'll see guys coming long before they even go pro. Trainers see these things too, that potential. They're the ones who end up pushing these guys into a career of boxing or fighting.

They had even less to go on back then, but they still seen it.

But not everyone has that eye for talent and can see someone's potential, sometimes even before they do.


If you don't have some background in boxing, or you don't even really follow the sport, there's only so much you can really see.

Especially if it's coming from from MMA jaded perspective.

But when everything I've said here is proven right, hopefully you do a double take on your fight IQ, because there's obviously a lot you're missing.

 

[AstralPanda]

Dude... Hes not fighting legit opponents

Im perplexed how you throw out armchair IQs when youre analysis is based on an unproven circus side show
Pleaaaase

Tyson Fury, Mike Tyson, tank, DC, Sean O Malley, mighty mouse, there's a whole bunch of top fighters who've spoken favorably of him as well.

So, what is it that the brightest fighting minds can see that you cannot?

Why are they giving credit, while you're looking for every inch to take it away?

They got that eye.

Most fans just seem to study Wikipedia.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

You can learn a lot by someone just from watching them train and fight. If you know how to analyze fighters, their skillset, potential, rate of growth trajectory

Then you'll see guys coming long before they even go pro. Trainers see these things too, that potential. They're the ones who end up pushing these guys into a career of boxing or fighting.

They had even less to go on back then, but they still seen it.

But not everyone has that eye for talent and can see someone's potential, sometimes even before they do.


If you don't have some background in boxing, or you don't even really follow the sport, there's only so much you can really see.

Especially if it's coming from from MMA jaded perspective.

But when everything I've said here is proven right, hopefully you do a double take on your fight IQ, because there's obviously a lot you're missing.

I havent spoken for any one Paul has faced besides Perry. Ive seen every single Paul fight so its not like Im talking out of my ass.

Your argument is weaker than you realize and is obviously not based on Pauls resume because if you took an actual look at it youd realize how hollow this premise is

 

[AstralPanda]

I havent spoken for any one Paul has faced besides Perry. Ive seen every single Paul fight so its not like Im talking out of my ass.

Your argument is weaker than you realize and is obviously not based on Pauls resume because if you took an actual look at it youd realize how hollow this premise is

Wikipedia analysis

Vs actual educated analysis that is based in genuine fight IQ.

Levels to everything.

But like I said, hopefully you come back, re read all this stuff after the fight, humble yourself and do a double take on what you seem to think you know about fighting.

 

[AstralPanda]

I havent spoken for any one Paul has faced besides Perry. Ive seen every single Paul fight so its not like Im talking out of my ass.

Your argument is weaker than you realize and is obviously not based on Pauls resume because if you took an actual look at it youd realize how hollow this premise is

Do you actually follow boxing? Genuine question

Like when there isn't influencers and former mma fighters involved, do you follow the sport?

 

[BluntForceTrama]

Do you actually follow boxing? Genuine question

Yes I do as a matter of fact

Im a big Monster fan but I follow it all

just put $100 on Perry -395 is a suckers bet lol

 

[AstralPanda]

Yes I do as a matter of fact

Im a big Monster fan but I follow it all

just put $100 on Perry -395 is a suckers bet lol

Word. Well it should be a good fight. I hope Perry has some success and makes it a dog fight.

But all the cards are pointing at a pretty dominant shutout imo

I think Perry vs Logan is more compelling competitively.

 

[TheMadHatter]

if you saw the faceoff talk at DnB Paul basicslly accused Perry of PEDs and Perry all but admitted w a wry smile

No testing LOL


on like donkey kong

oh shit I did not see this. I mean I'm not mad, if they arent testing who cares.

 

[JustforBROCK]

IMO Perry hasnt shown enough 'boxing skills' in the cage of B ring to convince me he's a good 'boxer'. Paul on the other hand is a pretty good boxer as much as I hate to admit it .... So I'm thinking it's probably not looking for for Perry unless he catches him in a wild exchange.