News I'm watching the Johnny Depp defamation case

[fingercuffs]

No because it's not admissible (due to recording consent laws) and the agreement hammered out by both legal teams on what is admissible.

This is my point precisely. He could have beat her to a living pulp but if there's no evidence it mens bugger all. Difference between criminal courts I suspect. Id she can't prove that he abused her than surely it gets chucked out? Till then it's conjecture. I think she's a complete bitch and worse than him by far, but prtty sure they were both volatile as fuck.

 

[Hog-train]

This is my point precisely. He could have beat her to a living pulp but if there's no evidence it mens bugger all. Difference between criminal courts I suspect. Id she can't prove that he abused her than surely it gets chucked out? Till then it's conjecture. I think she's a complete bitch and worse than him by far, but prtty sure they were both volatile as fuck.

Yah the difference between criminal courts and civil is that no one has to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt.

They can simply choose to believe one party over another and award the case to one party.

Guarantee you if Amber wins this case, the entire mainstream media is going to be blasting all her fake abuse claims as fact and headlines how she won the case.

 

[Err]

This is my point precisely. He could have beat her to a living pulp but if there's no evidence it mens bugger all. Difference between criminal courts I suspect. Id she can't prove that he abused her than surely it gets chucked out? Till then it's conjecture. I think she's a complete bitch and worse than him by far, but prtty sure they were both volatile as fuck.

I feel like prove isn’t the right word to use for this trial because neither side can conclusively prove anything. There is no police report or court ruling previous that would unequivocally show that abuse happened either way. It’s going to be a matter of opinion for the jury to sort out. There’s nothing that Amber heard can introduce as evidence that would make the judge make a directed verdict. At the end of the day it’s just her word against his and who is more believable.

 

[Hog-train]

I feel like prove isn’t the right word to use for this trial because neither side can conclusively prove anything. There is no police report or court ruling previous that would unequivocally show that abuse happened either way. It’s going to be a matter of opinion for the jury to sort out. There’s nothing that Amber heard can introduce as evidence that would make the judge make a directed verdict. At the end of the day it’s just her word against his and who is more believable.

Well Depp has already proven she hit him through audio testimony where she admits it.

 

[Err]

Well Depp has already proven she hit him through audio testimony where she admits it.

He certainly has the more compelling and damning evidence.

 

[Hog-train]

Johnny Depp's psychologist is hotter than Amber.

 

[what-wut]

I hope to god she's not pretending to be terrified of Johnny and I'm just misinterpreting her.
If you've not listened to the tapes you won't begin to comprehend how ridiculous this is.

 

[Oliver Clothesoff]

I gotta admit though watching her testimony it really feels like she is acting. Hard to take her serious

Agree. Once she said "no one will believe you because you're a man" she lost me. She must think everyone is an idiot. The fake crying was terrible. No tears.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

I hope to god she's not pretending to be terrified of Johnny and I'm just misinterpreting her.
If you've not listened to the tapes you won't begin to comprehend how ridiculous this is.

lol her acting is priceless.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Strike the pose!

 

[Snowblindlove]

Cliff notes anyone?

 

[Err]

Cliff notes anyone?

- Depp punched her in the face and it left a bruise on her arm

- Depps kids are weirdos

- Amber wanted a prenup and Depp was offended at the idea.

- Amber was shocked and appalled by Depps drug usage, she only takes happy drugs like Mushrooms, MDMA and Cocaine.

- Depp accosted a flight attendant on a plane to Russia, attendants whereabouts and testimony unknown.

- Everyone Amber confided in about the abuse is dead.

- Dozens of photos of Depp hammered and passed out after abuse occurred, no photos of the injury’s or damage from said abuse.

- He broke my nose and gave me black eyes, photo evidence shows no black eyes and a nose that’s straight and not swollen.

- Audio recordings of Depp moaning during withdrawals before abuse, no audio of said abuse occurring.

- Amber claiming to have been raped in Australia with a bottle of liquor, unsure if bottle was broken as vaginal bleeding was present. Forewent a hospital visit because she was heart broken. Went to bed immediately after rape.

- Spinach in the mashed potato’s the morning after rape.

- She only hit him once in defense of her sister.

These are the main points I can remember off the top of my head.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Eh, she claims that he assaulted her but it sounds like she's making this up. It sounds like it was consentual rough sex but she's manipulating people to think it was assault.

Again, sorry to those who have encountered domestic violence in the past, but I don't believe this looney wench.

 

[what-wut]

Apparently she slipped up, you see the reaction of Johnny's lawyers when she does.

 

[what-wut]

- She only hit him once in defense of her sister.
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Could be she fucked up by insisting she only hit him once, if defence can prove she lied about it, Jury might tune out the rest of her testimony.

 

[Hog-train]

Apparently she slipped up, you see the reaction of Johnny's lawyers when she does.

Chew's move may presumably mean that Heard opened the door for the lawyers to speak about past relationships, which could be a disadvantage for the actress as she was previously arrested for domestic violence against her partner in 2009.

Also, Kate Moss is on the witness list. This may open the door for her testimony or written deposition as a rebuttal.

 

[listrahtes]

At the end of the day it’s just her word against his and who is more believable.

The more I follow that the more it seems like the ultimate proof for money wins in these courts. Depp has the much more expensive team of experts / Laywers, "witnesses" with also more star power. He developed the narrative with a perfect acting performance completely in control masterful coached and helped by a mass of experts. He is the master of being perceived sympathetic.

Now Amber has her part to play but its basically set now how this is perceived. She is the lesser actor and has less money. Quite sure Depp has also instructed media campaigns to work with all this.

There is no good / bad guy here. Amber is a fucked up violent woman, Depp is a fucked up junkie who seems to also has at least very abusive episodes right from the beginning of his career, but he controls the narrative. He will win this via money. Plain and simple. Its a good insight into how fucked up the hollywood lifestyle is and how hypocritic all the political virtue signalling comments of most actors are living in their fucked up bubble. Like Angelina Jolie playing the UN ambassador for kids while doing everything to destroy any normal upbringing with a father her kids could have...and so on.

Hollywood is kinda shutting itself down more and more and the movies reflect that sadly. Long long gone the time of the masterpieces out of Hollywood.

 

[Hog-train]

The more I follow that the more it seems like the ultimate proof for money wins in these courts. Depp has the much more expensive team of experts / Laywers, "witnesses" with also more star power. He developed the narrative with a perfect acting performance completely in control masterful coached and helped by a mass of experts. He is the master of being perceived sympathetic.

Now Amber has her part to play but its basically set now how this is perceived. She is the lesser actor and has less money. Quite sure Depp has also instructed media campaigns to work with all this.

There is no good / bad guy here. Amber is a fucked up violent woman, Depp is a fucked up junkie who seems to also has at least very abusive episodes right from the beginning of his career, but he controls the narrative. He will win this via money. Plain and simple. Its a good insight into how fucked up the hollywood lifestyle is and how hypocritic all the political virtue signalling comments of most actors are living in their fucked up bubble. Like Angelina Jolie playing the UN ambassador for kids while doing everything to destroy any normal upbringing with a father her kids could have...and so on.

Hollywood is kinda shutting itself down more and more and the movies reflect that sadly. Long long gone the time of the masterpieces out of Hollywood.

This "mutually toxic" narrative is such a cop out.

This women was doing all this abuse (admitted on audio tapes) and shit on his bed (and went to party at Coachella) while his mom was dying in the hospital. She's evil.

 

[gspieler]

This "mutually toxic" narrative is such a cop out.

This women was doing all this abuse (admitted on audio tapes) and shit on his bed (and went to party at Coachella) while his mom was dying in the hospital. She's evil.

Indeed. It's rare that one party in a relationship is a saint while the other is an absolute demon. It's an unrealistic standard.

The "mutually toxic" narrative is only being pushed because Heard is an attractive woman, IMHO.

 

[HereticBD]

The cross examination of this painfully obvious liar, is going to be spectacular.