Rumored Ilia Topuria vs Paddy Pimblett

[Portland8242]

Enoguh with this BS metaphor lol, I see it, I just don't agree with it. I just don't think it's a forgone conclusion that Paddy get's KO'd here based off some stats.

I guess that step up could be Ilia....or his next fight, we'll see. But I am just going by a pattern here and him getting better and better fight by fight, and that is more about him being be able to define his style and gameplan and be effective with it, while not getting KO'd or hurt.

I think at this point Paddy is good enough to fight a fight....."not to get KO'd" and apply his style and gameplan in that respect. Now, I am not saying he will win cause Ilia could defend his TDs and clinches and just win on points by landing the better strikes. But I think he is good enough to avoid the power shots and exchanges and make get to a decision. Or get the fight where he wants it and control Topuira.

I honestly think I like Paddy in this fight to win with his size and grappling. I think he can avoid the exchnages and focus on clinches and top position and then either TKO or Submiit Topuira. But I am very much hoping for Topuria to get it done and win.

So he was able to corner/trap and KO Volk/Max/Oliveira but that legendary Pimblett craftiness you're depicting here is just gonna magically keep him out of harm's way despite him being far slower and less technical?

 

[Black9]

Why wouldn’t Gaethje fight Topuria? All he wants is the title shot

Just his own opinion though. No insight to anything related to negotiations.

Him and Justin have the same manager(Ali) hes certainly saying it with direct insight of how UFC is going.

 

[Khaosan]

Paddy strangles the goof after some near fight ending GnP. He then vomits during his post cage interview into a wine glass and makes Topuria drink it in front of his wife and kid.

 

[Söze Aldo]

does paddy have star power? I mean he is popular in England but does he draw an international crowd? I dont know the numbers so maybe I'm wrong for doubting it but I think Paddy winning the title could catapult him but right now I'm not so sure if he is a draw. Not that it matters imo, he has a win streak and is 1 of the fighters to make an argument for to fight for the belt......but I just dont see him being a star already. 1 loss and he could fade away

By current UFC fighter standards, yes. He's got endorsement deals and even commercials now.



He's no Conor but probably bigger than Sean O'Malley who the UFC tried to (unsuccessfully) push into that role.

 

[HHJ]

does paddy have star power?

Wether he is or isnt, Dana wants the strap on this guy.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

Paddy's only hope is to grapple. If he can close the gap and stay inside and somehow some way get to the ground, he has a chance

 

[Rorschachxx]

Him and Justin have the same manager(Ali) hes certainly saying it with direct insight of how UFC is going.

No they don't. Arman isn't managed by Ali.

Arman is managed by Daniel Rubenstein.

And he explicitly says in the video he doesn't have any insider knowledge and is just giving his opinion.

 

[CC27]

Its the fight I'd make if I were the UFC cause its the biggest but dont believe the source. I think in the end they go Justin because they want Paddy to get one more. That may backfire on them though and then another big grudge match type fight goes up in flames.

Thats why I'd just do it now and kick off the Paramount deal with it. You didnt make Topuria/Islam, Jones bitched out on the Tom fight, if you're the UFC you make the biggest fight while you can and in LW div its Topuria/Paddy.

 

[Xoleth]

Tell me one, for a 1st defense. Honest question.
Paddy is #6
Pereira vs Khalil (7th or 8th at the time, can't remember) was -rightfully- seen as a travesty being his 3rd defense.

Khalil had his share of loses in UFC.
He had 5 wins in a row.
Well, the Jacoby fight was also a robbery, just like Paddy vs Gordon.
And his wins weren't that good.

Same as Paddy, I agree.
Just that Paddy, has a bigger winning streak and hasn't lost in UFC.

I didn't see it as a travesty, because at least Khalil had some wins.
Undeserving? Clearly! Ank deserved it more.
Same for Paddy. Arman clearly deserves it more.


In UFC, we had:
Chael Sonen getting a TS at LW because why not
OSP getting a TS
Gane is getting a TS after losing to Volkov and losing quite badly in two other title shots
Dustin vs Islam
Stipe got a TS even though he didn't fought for years and he looked extremely bad
Colby got two undeserving title shots
Masvidal
Chito
and the list continues...

Eddit: Izzy got a TS even though he lost very very very badly to the guy who lost to DDP

at least Paddy is 7-0 in UFC... well, on paper.

 

[JKS]

So he was able to corner/trap and KO Volk/Max/Oliveira but that legendary Pimblett craftiness you're depicting here is just gonna magically keep him out of harm's way despite him being far slower and less technical?

See here is what you fail to understand. Paddy is not going to fight like those guys and have a very different gamplan and strategy. If he fought like Max and Olivera, he will get KO'd without question, but he wont unless he's stupid.

Volk stood and kickboxed with Ilia for 1.5 rounds and attempted no TDs, it was a striking approach. That allowed Ilia to get good read on Volk and get the timing down corner him and land the KO shot. Same with Max, he stood and kickboxed. His gameplan was to stay on the outside and use his jab and counter game with Ilia. And again, Ilia was just better. But once again, another fight where the gameplan is too stand and strike. Olivera mixed it up a bit but threw a lazy cross and mid range and got countered.

Now do you really think Paddy is going to fight like those 3?? Or he going to plan to stay on the outside and then work to set up clinches and time TDs to get top posiiton and grapple.

You understand?? It's a very different fight here. You saw Max get clipped, and what did Max do? He stook in the pocket and was striking back. A grappler like Paddy will clinch, shoot or get the hell out for there, you get it?? It's not that easy to KO an opponent who's not willing to engage with you.

There isn't a single fighter at 145 or 155 that I would favor over Ilia to outstrike him. But once its a grappler, then different story.

 

[shunyata]

It makes business sense to send Paddy while he’s still hot / before he loses. Paddy is the money fight.

Everyone knows that Arman is the most legitimate / competitive / interesting fight to make.

UFC don’t want to lose their Spanish Conor to another eastern euro guy. (Yes I’m aware top is Georgian, but u get what I mean).

Georgia on my mind.

 

[Portland8242]

See here is what you fail to understand. Paddy is not going to fight like those guys and have a very different gamplan and strategy. If he fought like Max and Olivera, he will get KO'd without question, but he wont unless he's stupid.

Volk stood and kickboxed with Ilia for 1.5 rounds and attempted no TDs, it was a striking approach. That allowed Ilia to get good read on Volk and get the timing down corner him and land the KO shot. Same with Max, he stood and kickboxed. His gameplan was to stay on the outside and use his jab and counter game with Ilia. And again, Ilia was just better. But once again, another fight where the gameplan is too stand and strike. Olivera mixed it up a bit but threw a lazy cross and mid range and got countered.

Now do you really think Paddy is going to fight like those 3?? Or he going to plan to stay on the outside and then work to set up clinches and time TDs to get top posiiton and grapple.

You understand?? It's a very different fight here. You saw Max get clipped, and what did Max do? He stook in the pocket and was striking back. A grappler like Paddy will clinch, shoot or get the hell out for there, you get it?? It's not that easy to KO an opponent who's not willing to engage with you.

There isn't a single fighter at 145 or 155 that I would favor over Ilia to outstrike him. But once its a grappler, then different story.

So where in your pea brain do you realize that to initiate grappling you actually have to get close.

Do you think Paddy is just gonna do some chad mendes-esque blast double leg from half way across the cage and take Topuria down?

Max and Volk both have infinitely better fight IQ, footwork, evasiveness, distance control than Paddy. What the fuck is it about Paddy's ploddy slow footwork makes you think he's gonna be able to set up takedowns or grappling exchanges with Topuria? He's not some high end wrestler who can shoot and chainwrestle takedowns like Islam or Khamzat, he actually has to throw some strikes to set things up. No clue how you think MMA works but it's baffling to read.

 

[Urluberluu]

it should be Arman vs Ilia , don't understand why arman get so much hate about his cancel , lot of people canceled fight ( oliveira , khabib missing weight ...)

 

[JBJ was here]

at least Paddy is 7-0 in UFC... well, on paper.

Paddy is technically 2-0 in UFC fights that aren't against corpses or complete jobbers. Aside from a clean second round finish, he lost four of four rounds in those fights, three if you're being generous.

 

[Darkjjb]

Next thread:

Rumored - Conor McGregor vs Michael Chandler headlining the UFC White House card

*according to Michael Chandler

Mc Gregor is heavy weight now

 

[JKS]

So where in your pea brain do you realize that to initiate grappling you actually have to get close.

Do you think Paddy is just gonna do some chad mendes-esque blast double leg from half way across the cage and take Topuria down?

Max and Volk both have infinitely better fight IQ, footwork, evasiveness, distance control than Paddy. What the fuck is it about Paddy's ploddy slow footwork makes you think he's gonna be able to set up takedowns or grappling exchanges with Topuria? He's not some high end wrestler who can shoot and chainwrestle takedowns like Islam or Khamzat, he actually has to throw some strikes to set things up. No clue how you think MMA works but it's baffling to read.

Hi, no need to get personal sweetheart. You're getting emotional here and it's not worth it, it's just casual internet talk. No need to get so heated.

I'll tell you how, he's got a very awkward and unpredictable striking style with lots of kicks and strikes from the outside and it's very hard to time offense against him. That's how he uses striking to set up his TD's. And he's very good at getting inside and creating clinches, body locks, single legs, and using his size to bring the fight on the mat. Look how effective it was vs Chandler. Furthermore, he's got size on Topuira, he's gonna be around 180 fight night while Ilia will come in around 165-168. So he's gonna use size to his advantage to get the fight down and from top position.

I can tell you're a bit green to the sport. So let the pros make these predictions and you can learn a thing or two, okay kiddo?

 

[Tweak896]

I honestly like this fight better than Gaethje or Arman. Hopefully Arman gets a W, gets next title shot. People were going to be pissed with any of the choices. Atleast Paddy never had a titleshot or loss yet in the UFC. He's a giant LW and pretty well rounded. Probably turns it into a war.

 

[KO Shotz]

Just his own opinion though. No insight to anything related to negotiations.

This.

 

[Portland8242]

Hi, no need to get personal sweetheart. You're getting emotional here and it's not worth it, it's just casual internet talk. No need to get so heated.

I'll tell you how, he's got a very awkward and unpredictable striking style with lots of kicks and strikes from the outside and it's very hard to time offense against him. That's how he uses striking to set up his TD's. And he's very good at getting inside and creating clinches, body locks, single legs, and using his size to bring the fight on the mat. Look how effective it was vs Chandler. Furthermore, he's got size on Topuira, he's gonna be around 180 fight night while Ilia will come in around 165-168. So he's gonna use size to his advantage to get the fight down and from top position.

I can tell you're a bit green to the sport. So let the pros make these predictions and you can learn a thing or two, okay kiddo?

If the fight ever materializes I will HAPPILY make you an account bet or loser leaves town type of bet.

Through all my years of watching MMA whenever I read "size" being an advantage it's almost always to compensate between the blatant lack of skills between the two competitors. Paddy's striking style is kind of like a dollar store version of Oliveira's. Awkward and weird angles, deceptively powerful, but very obvious defensive issues that are there to be exploited. This dude couldn't even put away ancient Ferguson on the feet. Now he has improved a bit since then but he's got chasms to cover before he belongs in there with Topuira.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

I don’t really say any challenges for Topuria right now at LW with Islam gone
But I would love to see PoshSpice vs Paddy

Yes feed Paddy that little posh Armenian sausage