If NFL is A level athleticism

4/6 UFC champions are from the US

You’ve clearly lost track of whatever point you were attempting to make.

Back to the beginning son, what exactly are you trying to state?
 
Nope not at all.
But generally a better athlete (faster, stronger, more co-ordinated, more agile) with skill will beat an inferior athlete with the same skill

Why we now have more accomplished collegiate athletes in the UFC as opposed to a decade ago where we had math teachers and bus drivers as champions
This is such a stupid argument I mean how do you even seperate the skill from the athletic ability firstly? Take marcelo garcia for example, do you think he is so good at grappling because he is more athletic than others or because of his tremendous skill? Again video game thinking from you.
 
I think you’ll find I cucked you son, well and truly.

Bring your mrs/sister up to the UK and I’ll show her what A-level athleticism is all about :)
No one wants to see your uncircumcised little push pop.
 
I wasn’t offering you, Cuck. I said your Mrs/sister (I assume they’re the same person)
 
You’ve clearly lost track of whatever point you were attempting to make.

Back to the beginning son, what exactly are you trying to state?
Not at all

The topic is the calibre of athlete in the NFL (and other big sports) compared to the UFC and their viability as better fighters

in the US, better athletes go to big paying sports. ie NFL

4/6 UFC Champions are from the US
 
Ever seen Joe Frazier on Superstars?

Terrible athlete. Legendary fighter.

You can’t teach fighting intangibles in gym class.
 
This is such a stupid argument I mean how do you even seperate the skill from the athletic ability firstly? Take marcelo garcia for example, do you think he is so good at grappling because he is more athletic than others or because of his tremendous skill? Again video game thinking from you.
the key is
athleticism PLUS skill
 
the key is
athleticism PLUS skill

You've moved the goalposts entirely son.

You were the one who said Jones’s brothers could handle him in a fight.

Where’s the athleticism PLUS skill there?
 
You've moved the goalposts entirely son.

You were the one who said Jones’s brothers could handle him in a fight.

Where’s the athleticism PLUS skill there?
Your conflating another discussion, please dont confuse yourself further on it.
Jon Jones and his brothers (Arthur) stated it, not me.

Just relayed what these pro athletes have said. Infer from it, what you can.
 
Your conflating another discussion, please dont confuse yourself further on it.
Jon Jones and his brothers (Arthur) stated it, not me.

Just relayed what these pro athletes have said. Infer from it, what you can.

It’s either athleticism PLUS skill or it ain’t, son.

What’s YOUR take on the fighting Jones vs the non-fighting Jones? Who wins in a fight?
 
I wasn’t offering you, Cuck. I said your Mrs/sister (I assume they’re the same person)
Lol I said “No one”

Again... with the shitty reading comprehension.

You’re from the UK right? It’s a well known fact that small island people have amongst the highest rates of inbreeding. This often results in physical abnormalities such as fucked up teeth and mental deficiencies like autism.
 
It’s either athleticism PLUS skill or it ain’t, son.

What’s YOUR take on the fighting Jones vs the non-fighting Jones? Who wins in a fight?
never seen Arthur fight. I know he was a much higher pedigree wrestler than Jon and a different weight class in HS.

I would have absolute no information to draw upon other than the two brothers words.

However if Arthur took up fighting at 17 instead of going to Syracuse for a full scholarship, my money would be on him over just about anyone.
 
Your conflating another discussion, please dont confuse yourself further on it.
Jon Jones and his brothers (Arthur) stated it, not me.

Just relayed what these pro athletes have said. Infer from it, what you can.
Jon Jones have stated that he beats them up quite easily when they come and train MMA with him.
 
So when does skill trump athleticism? Do you have some kind of equation i can use?
There is no formula to my knowledge.
Youll get a quick sense though if you go to any local boxing or combat sports gym where the disparity is drawn
 
Lol I said “No one”

Again... with the shitty reading comprehension.

You’re from the UK right? It’s a well known fact that small island people have amongst the highest rates of inbreeding. This often results in physical abnormalities such as fucked up teeth and mental deficiencies like autism.

Scant denial of you fucking your sister though.....


I’m mixed race and beautiful, so no worries there.
 
The ‘dunk’ thing is one of the most ridiculous suggestions ever.

It’s a minute skill within a very rigid ball sport, and people here seem to hold it up as a barometer of athletic ability.

An overhead kick in football is more impressive from a pure athletic standpoint - a nobody with a brain cell would hold it up as some sort of barometer of athletic ability across a range of athletes specialising in different areas.

Lebron James sure as hell cant perform and overhead kick. By the NFL fanboy reasoning that would call into question his athletic credentials. For the rest of the world, the only question they would have would be, “why are you expecting a basket baller to perform a football skill?”


The whole dunk thing is really about the measure of an athletes vertical leap which is a measure of their explosive power output. Vertical leap/jumping/plyometrics isn't something only basketball players practice, it is something that is practiced and trained by a wide variety sports world, including Soccer, Rugby and MMA. That is how athletes work on their explosiveness.






 
never seen Arthur fight. I know he was a much higher pedigree wrestler than Jon and a different weight class in HS.

I would have absolute no information to draw upon other than the two brothers words.

However if Arthur took up fighting at 17 instead of going to Syracuse for a full scholarship, my money would be on him over just about anyone.

No information to draw upon <45>

True, if you ignore one being the best pound for pound fighter on the planet, and the other having never fought, then there would be little available info for you to use.
 
never seen Arthur fight. I know he was a much higher pedigree wrestler than Jon and a different weight class in HS.

I would have absolute no information to draw upon other than the two brothers words.

However if Arthur took up fighting at 17 instead of going to Syracuse for a full scholarship, my money would be on him over just about anyone.

No information to draw upon <45>

True, if you ignore one being the best pound for pound fighter on the planet, and the other having never fought, then there would be little available info for you to use.
 
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