If Mayweather does fight Cotto...

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Do you think that Mayweather can stop Cotto's jab? He really used it effectively vs. Mosely.
 
Stop it? No. Avoid it? Yeah he's fast enough. But he has to answer back and not be muscled around. Corley, Judah, and Mali were all fast enough to counter Cotto, but they couldn't keep from being bullied.
 
I think Cotto has everything necessary to beat Floyd except speed.

Damn Cotto for beating Mosley! Mosley/Floyd is what I want to see.
 
I think Cotto's proven he can beat speed without speed.
 
Does Floyd fight out of his normal shell, or does he have to move more against Cotto?
 
i actually see this as a decision,Floyd aviods the power but wont catch him,or cotto will show some of the skills in his last fight and possibly win
 
i think cotto's too tank to beat mayweather

pbf or "money" (lol he needs to grow up) would run circles around him.

for cotto to win he has to raise his stamina, fix his gaps in defense and most importantly, be able to time floyd (i dont think cotto can cut the ring off against floyd)

i haven't seen one person able to time floyd yet however.

floyd has to move, cause shots to his chest, shoulders, arms and gut are gonna hurt bad when cotto connects.

cotto has to fight efficient (cotto takes too many rounds off imo) , every shot needs to land on some part of floyds body whether its floyds arms, or floyd gut, it has to land on something other than air.

he has to time floyd coming in with that great jab of his and then punish floyds body, shoulders and arms.
 
You know elbow, aside from the obvious...if Cotto has ONE major detraction going into the fight I honestly believe it's Evangelista. I'm not sure that guy's head is on straight anymore, and I'm not sure that as a trainer he can deal with the pressures of a fight this big to allow Miguel to make the necessary adjustments.

I think Cotto can win, by the game-plan you said, and I think he almost put that plan into perfect effect against Zab (resolving he was GOING to get hit was a good move because he appeared ready for it)...but I agree he needs to mature a bit more to have a better chance. If Floyd really takes a year off and then entertains to fight Cotto, I think that could work out HUGELY in Miguel's favor.
 
King Kabuki said:
I think Cotto's proven he can beat speed without speed.
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Really? When? Mosley stood right in front of him for much of their fight and wasn't particularly elusive. Zab was controlling their fight until he stopped fighting. Mallignaggi? I guess, though I think we'd both agree that Malignaggi is no Mayweather.

Cotto has impressed me very much this year and though I may have said differentt in the past, hes no threat to Floyd.
 
IMO, its going to take someone with real power, one punch power, to end Floyds reign. Floyds too good to get caught in flurries or get stuck on the ropes.

Cotto is a great fighter but not really a big power puncher.
 
Really? When? Mosley stood right in front of him for much of their fight and wasn't particularly elusive. Zab was controlling their fight until he stopped fighting. Mallignaggi? I guess, though I think we'd both agree that Malignaggi is no Mayweather.

Cotto has impressed me very much this year and though I may have said differentt in the past, hes no threat to Floyd.
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I STRONGLY disagree Zab was "controlling" anything before he stopped fighting. He landed two or three good counters over about 4 rounds. And he stopped fighting because he was getting his ass kicked.

Paul has speed, what he lacks is Mayweather's power. Floyd hits harder than people think as was demonstrated by his near decapitation of Hatton with a punch. Sure Ricky jumped into it, but he also didn't recover well at all. But for all Paul's speed if you watch that fight, Cotto used a lunging, spearing power-jab to cancel that speed. Boxing fundamentals 101: A good hard jab neutralizes hand-speed.

Corley also began to out-speed Miguel, which is why Miguel had trouble and Corley could land the shot that hurt him. But what'd he get for it? A beating.

Floyd's speed won't be what does away with Cotto if it happens. It'll be his combination of speed and power.
 
King Kabuki said:
You know elbow, aside from the obvious...if Cotto has ONE major detraction going into the fight I honestly believe it's Evangelista. I'm not sure that guy's head is on straight anymore, and I'm not sure that as a trainer he can deal with the pressures of a fight this big to allow Miguel to make the necessary adjustments.

I think Cotto can win, by the game-plan you said, and I think he almost put that plan into perfect effect against Zab (resolving he was GOING to get hit was a good move because he appeared ready for it)...but I agree he needs to mature a bit more to have a better chance. If Floyd really takes a year off and then entertains to fight Cotto, I think that could work out HUGELY in Miguel's favor.
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i agree, time works in favor for cotto, cotto just keeps getting better and better and he's not done, i dont think he's in his prime yet.

floyd i think is tapped out. he's gonna stay great, but really isn't gonna get much better. as time passes, some of his physical gifts are gonna fade.

i also agree on you with evangelista, i think switching from him will bring a big jump in cotto's game.
 
King Kabuki said:
I STRONGLY disagree Zab was "controlling" anything before he stopped fighting. He landed two or three good counters over about 4 rounds. And he stopped fighting because he was getting his ass kicked.
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OK I guess youre right here when I think about it, but Cotto was indeed having a hard time with Zabs punching for the first 5-6 rounds, Floyd is better down the stretch than Zab and doesn't seem to fade.

Also I disagree with you saying he stopped fighting because he got his ass kicked, IMO, he got his ass kicked because he stopped fighting.
 
King Kabuki said:
Paul has speed, what he lacks is Mayweather's power. Floyd hits harder than people think as was demonstrated by his near decapitation of Hatton with a punch. Sure Ricky jumped into it, but he also didn't recover well at all. But for all Paul's speed if you watch that fight, Cotto used a lunging, spearing power-jab to cancel that speed. Boxing fundamentals 101: A good hard jab neutralizes hand-speed.


Floyd's speed won't be what does away with Cotto if it happens. It'll be his combination of speed and power.
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Whoops, I misread this at first.

I was touting Floyds punching power before the Hatton fight and no one seemed to agree. All you need to do is check Floyds fights before he fough at WW to see he has real power and punching ability.

I agree with your Power + speed = win theory as well.
 
Seano said:
Cotto has impressed me very much this year and though I may have said differentt in the past, hes no threat to Floyd.
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I agree, Cotto brings alot to the table, but I just don't feel he could beat Floyd at this point.
As KK said, he takes a year or two off and theres a different story.
 
Also I disagree with you saying he stopped fighting because he got his ass kicked, IMO, he got his ass kicked because he stopped fighting.
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Cotto's physical attack, and his jab from range are what paralyzed Zab. Just like Floyd's speed + power did. If you leave Zab alone, he'll kill you, like he did Cory in their re-match and nearly did in the first fight. Both times late. Zab only fades when he's being hurt or can't break another guy's will.
 
I think Cotto has many tools, but not enough to beat Floyd. I feel that Cotto punches too wide to hit Mayweather. His chin and desire are there, however, Floyd would pick him apart. I think it will take a strong and fast southpaw that moves around to beat Floyd. The idea that one can stand in front of Floyd and out-punch him is crazy. Zab posed a few issues early, however, Floyd began to dictate the fight soon after the third. Id like to see Floyd fight a strong, southpaw, that moves and keeps Floyd on his heels...
 
Cotto has all the tools to beat Mayweather, if Mayweather had trouble with Hatton he's going to be in deep shit with Cotto. Cotto is going to press him against the ropes and corners just like Hatton and hit him with furious body shots to the stomach, chest, liver, shoulders. Get him weak, until those arms drop and boom hit him on the button a couple of times. If Cotto and Mayweather fight I see Cotto winning by Decision much like the Mosley fight or maybe a K.O. and forget about Mayweather knocking him out because Mosley hits harder and he couldn't do it. Cotto is a beast, he keeps it simple stupid no fancy foot work no dancing around just boxing. Gets in the fight, goes to work, and does his thing.

He doesn't make the fight as nice as Mayweather does, but he finishes his opponents proven in the video below.

Heres a link just a little video also to give you some insight.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=WXTxlcD-17o
 
Hell will freeze over before you see the current linear welterweight champion face ANY of the top 5 welterweight contenders: Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, Williams, Cintron.
 
Unfortunately only 2 of those 5 guys deserve shots.

And 1 of those other 3 guys already turned Floyd down.
 
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