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Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

People getting what they voted for and Democrats stupidly standing in their way. That's what I see.

And no, nobody cares if some mistakes are made along the way. Take that emotional blackmail to Reddit.
Your answer then expressly tells me that yes your are ok with tyranny you just want your side to do it. Is that actually the answer you want to go with?

Nobody cares if mistakes are made along the way really? I’ll bet you would care if it happened to you or someone you know.
 
Your answer then expressly tells me that yes your are ok with tyranny
Oh', shut up. The Biden Administration let in 10-20 million migrants with an open door policy, while telling everyone to shut up and deal with it, when they weren't lying their asses off about the border being secure and cooking up stories about migrants being whipped at the border.

Welcome to the reaction to that.
Nobody cares if mistakes are made along the way really? I’ll bet you would care if it happened to you or someone you know.
Much like I'm sure you'd have a different opinion if it was your mother, daughter, sister who got raped and thrown in a ditch by an illegal immigrant.

Your appeal to emotion has no power here.
 
How were they not the same? The Republican Party first argued that it was too close to the election, and then turned around and argued the opposite when the exact same situation arose. The real constant here was just that they had the power both times to do what they wanted.
Already answered.

I didnt like this though even though Im a conservative. Some consistency is needed imo. Obama should have been allowed to pick imo.
I voted for Obama and I remember finding the situation very ugly. Nevertheless, the situations were not the same. I understand why those on the left want to say it was but it wasn't.
 
Your answer then expressly tells me that yes your are ok with tyranny you just want your side to do it. Is that actually the answer you want to go with?

Nobody cares if mistakes are made along the way really? I’ll bet you would care if it happened to you or someone you know.


yeah it would sure suck if one of his own accidentally got babbitted. tots and pears.
 
I would strongly disagree that this is a little protest man. There were apps 10k out the one day. And at night, the destruction and rioting is almost as bad as floyd riots at times. Not quite the high level of anger directed at police that 2020 saw-this seems to be 50/50 with them being big mad at trump for these deportations
As someone who works in the area, you are wrong. This is nothing like the previous BLM protests or even comparable to the riots that occur after a sports parade. This is being way overblown.
 
Oh', shut up. The Biden Administration let in 10-20 million migrants with an open door policy, while telling everyone to shut up and deal with it, when they weren't lying their asses off about the border being secure and cooking up stories about migrants being whipped at the border.

Welcome to the reaction to that.

Much like I'm sure you'd have a different opinion if it was your mother, daughter, sister who got raped and thrown in a ditch by an illegal immigrant.

Your appeal to emotion has no power here.
you stfu. What did I say in my first post your responded to? I said this wasn’t about deporting immigrants. I’ve been pretty vocally in support of strict immigration control the whole time I’ve been on sherdog.

Are you unable to separate the two things in your mind? Because I see a massive problem with the way ICE is operating now and if the only answer you can come up with is “it’s the will of the people then it lets me know right now you stand on no principle except for power. So if we come back and find you complaining about people losing their jobs over vaccines, I should quote you and tell you to shove it up your ass because “that’s what people voted for” right?

You guys need to get smarter because the shoe can and eventually will be on the other foot.
 
He didn't abandon it, it just wasn't the same situation. McConnell's reasoning is that, since the American people had voted in a majority Republican Senate under Obama, any SCOTUS pick he was going to pick was not going to be representing the will of the majority of Americans. Under Trump, you have a Republican Congress AND President. Hate the logic all you want, but don't say the situations were the same. Nobody was "robbed" of a SCOTUS pick.
I didn’t see this response but seriously just lol. I don’t think you even feel this is a good argument as you wrote it. I remember seeing the news when this happened and McConnell was asked by a reporter directly about the hypocrisy of it and the dude could not help but give the biggest shit eating grin. This wasn’t done on any principle, it was simply that he could get away with it.
 
We both know if the parties were reversed the Democrats would do the same thing.
No question. After seeing what Democrats pulled during the Kavanaugh nomination, ain't nobody trying to hear about them losing a SCOTUS pick. That was straight up evil what they did to him and his family.
 
I didn’t see this response but seriously just lol. I don’t think you even feel this is a good argument as you wrote it. I remember seeing the news when this happened and McConnell was asked by a reporter directly about the hypocrisy of it and the dude could not help but give the biggest shit eating grin. This wasn’t done on any principle, it was simply that he could get away with it.
Like I said, hate the logic all you want. I don't blame you. The situations weren't the same though.
 
you stfu. What did I say in my first post your responded to? I said this wasn’t about deporting immigrants. I’ve been pretty vocally in support of strict immigration control the whole time I’ve been on sherdog.
What is it about then? ICE conducts raids to round up illegal immigrants. No, they don't announce their presence and give the illegals 48 hours to run and hide.
Are you unable to separate the two things in your mind? Because I see a massive problem with the way ICE is operating now
They've always operated this way.
So if we come back and find you complaining about people losing their jobs over vaccines, I should quote you and tell you to shove it up your ass because “that’s what people voted for” right?
Nobody voted for that, and in fact those measures were also a catalyst for Trump being re-elected. In fact, Biden was elected to be a moderate. Four progressive shit hole years later, and The Dems have an approval rating slightly higher than peanut butter and mustard sandwiches. The Dems are out because the people weren't getting what they voted for.

People voted for this. Hence why the majority are with Trump on this issue.
You guys need to get smarter because the shoe can and eventually will be on the other foot.
It already was. Look, both sides are playing for keeps. You're just mad that you're currently on the losing end of it.
 
What is it about then? ICE conducts raids to round up illegal immigrants. No, they don't announce their presence and give the illegals 48 hours to run and hide.

They've always operated this way.

Nobody voted for that, and in fact those measures were also a catalyst for Trump being re-elected. In fact, Biden was elected to be a moderate. Four progressive shit hole years later, and The Dems have an approval rating slightly higher than peanut butter and mustard sandwiches. The Dems are out because the people weren't getting what they voted for.

People voted for this. Hence why the majority are with Trump on this issue.

It already was. Look, both sides are playing for keeps. You're just mad that you're currently on the losing end of it.
Bullshit I am not mad I’m on the losing side. Unlike you and your ilk I do stand on principle. I don’t believe the government should be showing up in the night with masks on and not identifying themselves, abducting the wrong people and not fixing their mistakes. This isn’t hyperbole this is what they’re doing.

Stop trying to spin this and stop trying to conflate things- it’s not going to work with me. You said I’m losing but that’s because you only view the world through your petty left vs right lens. I’ve always identified more with the right on immigration and my post history going back to the beginning proves that.

You have now basically admitted what I suspect most of the right wing feels. You guys don’t have a problem with tyranny, with government repression. You just have a problem with it when it’s not effecting you personally and it happens to align with what you like. As a freedom loving American I find that pretty disappointing to hear
 

Jan 6 was mostly peaceful and In the context of the January 6th Capitol riots, the decision to deploy the National Guard involved coordination between state and federal authorities, and it became a topic of debate regarding the timing and decision-making processes involved.
 
Don't have any sympathy for those who poke the bear
You do strike me as the sort of guy who’d want physical violence against folks who annoy you. Odd that you’ve got no problem with open and blatant illegal assault by the cops.

(Neither clip were after curfew was enacted)

migrant foot washers
The Christian contingent hasn’t weighed in yet.
 
Bullshit I am not mad I’m on the losing side. Unlike you and your ilk I do stand on principle. I don’t believe the government should be showing up in the night with masks on and not identifying themselves
Well, you're free to not believe that, but it's just the way it is. ICE has always operated this way.
Stop trying to spin this and stop trying to conflate things- it’s not going to work with me. You said I’m losing but that’s because you only view the world through your petty left vs right lens. I’ve always identified more with the right on immigration and my post history going back to the beginning proves that.
You clearly don't. You're wishy washy on the issue.
You have now basically admitted what I suspect most of the right wing feels. You guys don’t have a problem with tyranny, with government repression. You just have a problem with it when it’s not effecting you personally and it happens to align with what you like. As a freedom loving American I find that pretty disappointing to hear
Yeah, I remember you complaining hard about parents being labeled "Domestic Terrorists" for not wanting their daughters raped by deranged ladyboys in high school bathrooms. I also remember you ripping your hair out over the COVID mandates. You were also really steamed at the federal government neutering border patrol, and suing border states for *GASP* trying to enforce some kind of border security.

Yeah, you're so consistent, and totally not exactly what you're trying to frame me as.

Like I said, you're just mad because you're on the losing end right now. "You just wait until the shoe is on the other foot!"...yeah, welcome to now, buddy.
 
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