Social ICE/deportation protests and riots megathread

[I Am Legion]

How about Hugo Hernandez-Mendez? Arrested for the murder of a missing Maryland teen Dacara Thompson. This POS is here illegally and has been arrested several times--DWI, Drugs, assault etc. But always released. ICE put out a detainer for him but local police ignored requests due to Sanctuary City laws. Guy should have never been let go in the 1st place. Her family should hold the city accountable, they allowed this to happen.

Outrage Grows Over Murder Charges Linked to Sanctuary City Rules | US Newsper

A man has been charged with murder in connection with the disappearance of a woman, according to authorities. The suspect, who is an illegal immigrant, was

usnewsper.com

 

[Spounman]

I just saw a reporter talk to a low IQ lib at the Chicago "protest" and the they/them said if the federal gov wants to help stop crime in Chicago they should just give money to the city

 

[DoctorTaco]

I just saw a reporter talk to a low IQ lib at the Chicago "protest" and the they/them said if the federal gov wants to help stop crime in Chicago they should just give money to the city

We were spending a million dollars a day to have the national guard pick up trash around DC. Surely there’s a better use for that money in the fight against crime?

 

[Confucamus]

We were spending a million dollars a day to have the national guard pick up trash around DC. Surely there’s a better use for that money in the fight against crime?

That's not a very honest take, to put it lightly. They didn't need to be chasing down criminals to have a measurable effect. Their presence itself was a massive deterrent to commit crime and there is ample evidence that citizens had a positive view of this effect.

 

[Limbo Pete]

That's not a very honest take, to put it lightly. They didn't need to be chasing down criminals to have a measurable effect. Their presence itself was a massive deterrent to commit crime and there is ample evidence that citizens had a positive view of this effect.

Using the military to "deter crime" goes against the foundational ideas of our country. Of course, we've had various moments which did not live up to those ideas, this one included.

 

[Crazy Source]

That's not a very honest take, to put it lightly. They didn't need to be chasing down criminals to have a measurable effect. Their presence itself was a massive deterrent to commit crime and there is ample evidence that citizens had a positive view of this effect.

 

[Crazy Source]

Using the military to "deter crime" goes against the foundational ideas of our country. Of course, we've had various moments which did not live up to those ideas, this one included.

Really fucks me up when they piss on Constitutional rights.

I am at a loss, brother. We call them on it, and they shift or double down.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Really fucks me up when they piss on Constitutional rights.

I am at a loss, brother. We call them on it, and they shift or double down.

Reactionary America has always viewed (and wanted) rights to be qualified based on sex, race, class, etc. It makes them more valuable to those that have, and gives the haves power over the have nots. What we're dealing with now is an acceleration of the slow game that played out post-civil rights era. They chipped and chipped and now are gobbling huges bites.

 

[Crazy Source]

Reactionary America has always viewed (and wanted) rights to be qualified based on sex, race, class, etc. It makes them more valuable to those that have, and gives the haves power over the have nots. What we're dealing with now is an acceleration of the slow game that played out post-civil rights era. They chipped and chipped and now are gobbling huges bites.

We are almost cool with saying the "N" word. It's "DEI" now. They always have code.

 

[HereticBD]

We were spending a million dollars a day to have the national guard pick up trash around DC. Surely there’s a better use for that money in the fight against crime?

Apart from their presence alone being a great deterrent to crime(the results speak for themselves), literally cleaning up the city is a valuable use of their time. What do you think they do when they're called in for support after a natural disaster? Among other things, they help clean the place up. No different here. Some of the areas in DC look they were hit by a natural disaster.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I just saw a reporter talk to a low IQ lib at the Chicago "protest" and the they/them said if the federal gov wants to help stop crime in Chicago they should just give money to the city

This weekend, ICE apparently conducting raids throughout Massachusetts, including Boston. I guess the hyped up going into Chicago and Boston let its guard down

You also don’t see any footage of protests because all the paid protestors and agitators were direct to Chicago lol

 

[PEB]

 

[DoctorTaco]

Apart from their presence alone being a great deterrent to crime(the results speak for themselves), literally cleaning up the city is a valuable use of their time. What do you think they do when they're called in for support after a natural disaster? Among other things, they help clean the place up. No different here. Some of the areas in DC look they were hit by a natural disaster.

A million bucks a day tho?

 

[Rob Battisti]

This weekend, ICE apparently conducting raids throughout Massachusetts, including Boston. I guess the hyped up going into Chicago and Boston let its guard down

You also don’t see any footage of protests because all the paid protestors and agitators were direct to Chicago lol

The folks in Massachusetts must be so pissed

 

[HereticBD]

A million bucks a day tho?

How are they even measuring that? They get paid a salary and are deployed to where they need to be and then do their jobs. Where is the million dollars a day coming from?

 

[DoctorTaco]

That's not a very honest take, to put it lightly. They didn't need to be chasing down criminals to have a measurable effect. Their presence itself was a massive deterrent to commit crime and there is ample evidence that citizens had a positive view of this effect.

I hear what you’re saying, but we were spending a million a day and guardsman were walking about picking up trash. Yes, violent crime is down compared to what it was a year ago, but that was true before the troops got there. The numbers in mid July show a 20% drop from the year prior. No murders for a week and a half is a sad thing to have to brag about, but it’s still good news. DC had hit that same mark several times this year before the troops got there. Arrest numbers are up but as many as 20% of those charges are being dropped.

 

[DoctorTaco]

How are they even measuring that? They get paid a salary and are deployed to where they need to be and then do their jobs. Where is the million dollars a day coming from?

Retired Marine Corps Col. Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, former chief of force structure and investment division at the Office of Management and Budget. The figure considers housing, travel, food, fuel, and other logistical needs. We spent over 2 million to deploy 5k national guardsmen in 2020 so ifs reasonable to believe that half the number of troops could cost us half the money.

 

[HereticBD]

Retired Marine Corps Col. Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, former chief of force structure and investment division at the Office of Management and Budget. The figure considers housing, travel, food, fuel, and other logistical needs. We spent over 2 million to deploy 5k national guardsmen in 2020 so ifs reasonable to believe that half the number of troops could cost us half the money.

Then it seems routine for deployment and not some outlier, and considering the results they're getting, I'd say it's money well spent.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Then it seems routine for deployment and not some outlier, and considering the results they're getting, I'd say it's money well spent.

I don’t believe it to be routine because they are being sent out without being asked by the state, there wasn’t an event happening that falls into their mandates of operation, they are not trained law enforcement officers, and spent time picking up liter. (Something I did as a high schooler for a few bucks above minimum wage back in the early 2000s.) the questionable constitutionality of them being there at all makes it an outlier.

The results we are seeing in terms of crime tending down was happening before they got there. I can’t find any evidence that the 20% drop in crime we’ve seen during their deployment is any different from the 20% drop we saw all summer long without them.

 

[HereticBD]

I don’t believe it to be routine because they are being sent out without being asked by the state

DC isn't a state. It's under direct jurisdiction of the Feds.

And you can look at individual crime stats to see the difference they're making, like car jackings alone being down something like 80% since their arrival.